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Ironically, a NP Mixape rapes this team. You should put a bulky water like Slowbro or Vaporeon over one of your walls. Vaporeon works very well because it can wish-pass, giving your team healing. Put it over Blissey. This also helps with your DDGyara weakness if you use HP Electric.
Put Gengar as your lead and use Weavile as a revenge killer.
Other than that the team looks fine.
Put Gengar as your lead and use Weavile as a revenge killer.
Other than that the team looks fine.
... Thats exactly why I wanted to post substitutes. I have a bulky/tauntdos and a sleep talker milotic. Either of these would work yes? Or can you give me a good vaporeon ev/move set? I've never ever tried to make one :P Or even just completely take out Thunderbolt for Psychic? Thats not much of an insurance policy but could work :P
Just use the standard Vaporeon in the analysis with HP Electric in the last slot. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/vaporeon
I think Scarfed Weavile is the weirdest thing in the world, but you may actually NEED that Scarf to prevent Deoxys-E from dancing all over you. Everyone on your team is OHKO'd by the standard mixed version except Vaporeon, who can only do up to 63% damage at maximum in return with Surf. Consider it.
Also, Gengar really has better things to do then SubPetaya. Choice Specs or Choice Scarf allow him to pack the same crazy punch while eliminating both the annoying Petaya set-up AND the need to significantly weaken your Gengar in the process. Choice Specs for power, but Timid and Choice Scarf means you won't have to worry about Scarfing Weavile to handle Deoxys. But if you'd rather not be locked into a single move, go with Life Orb and Hypnosis over Substitute.
You'll also want to watch out for Scarfed Heracross and SD Lucario with Bullet Punch. A Healthy Garchomp will not be OHKO'd by SD Lucario's Extremespeed, which allows you to revenge kill him at the expense of any possible Swords Dance sweep. As always with Choice users, careful prediction is usually enough to handle Scarfed Heracross. However, Gliscor over Skarmory would completely eliminate any threat these two pose to your team.
Also, Gengar really has better things to do then SubPetaya. Choice Specs or Choice Scarf allow him to pack the same crazy punch while eliminating both the annoying Petaya set-up AND the need to significantly weaken your Gengar in the process. Choice Specs for power, but Timid and Choice Scarf means you won't have to worry about Scarfing Weavile to handle Deoxys. But if you'd rather not be locked into a single move, go with Life Orb and Hypnosis over Substitute.
You'll also want to watch out for Scarfed Heracross and SD Lucario with Bullet Punch. A Healthy Garchomp will not be OHKO'd by SD Lucario's Extremespeed, which allows you to revenge kill him at the expense of any possible Swords Dance sweep. As always with Choice users, careful prediction is usually enough to handle Scarfed Heracross. However, Gliscor over Skarmory would completely eliminate any threat these two pose to your team.
The only problem is that without Skarmory, here comes the Weavile weakness, I guess you pick your poison. Infernape can "counter" those without Aerial Ace, but then again whoever leaves their CB Weavile in on Infernape while locked into Ice Punch/Night Slash/Pursuit is an idiot.
So I should keep everything hypno over substitute have life orb on Gengar, Replace Blissey with vaporeon, and make a new skarmory with Stealth Rock? What about replacing Weavile OR Garchomp with a Heracross on Life orb or a Electivire on life orb, or a SD Luke of my own? I can replace the sweepers no problem. I can see that my main weaknesses are Heracross NP Mixape And Weavile (without skarmory) So I guess I need a combination of GREAT sweepers and walls to stop those threats without bringing up new ones. Oh the endless battle :P
Wait... What about dusknoir as a def tank?
Wait... What about dusknoir as a def tank?
This is a pretty good Wifi team you've got here.
Firstly, get rid of Blissey for sure. This team is pretty mixed sweeper weak, so you'll need more "generic" walls in Diamond and Pearl, such as Vaporeon, Bronzong, etc. Standard HP Electric vaporeon should be good, Wish+Protect for recover and team support. It'll lessen the Infernape, and Gyarados problem, while still covering Heatran.
Skarmory looks good, pretty standard. However, consider a Shed Shell on it as an item, so Magnezone can't trap you. It's usually more useful than leftovers. You may want to consider Gliscor instead, as he can handle Heracross and SD Lucario much better than Skarmory can (both maim him with close combat) and he can set up Stealth Rock and Taunt stuff too. Also provides some Garchomp coverage. Weavile can always move in if it gets out of hand. Bronzong is also an option, as it covers Weavile and Deoxys-E but then SDluke and Heracross continue to be a problem.
Gengar looks OK, pretty standard. If you're set on Substitute, at least try the Mcgar set ( Sub, FPunch, Hypnosis, Shadow Ball-- 96 Atk / 174 Spa / 240 Spe, Hasty, Expert Belt) as it can really mess up the opponent. I find that it totally ruins offensive teams, and, if your substitute is intact after a kill, Weavile and Tyranitar can't kill you. If you like the regular Gengar better, try Hypnosis over Substitute and use Specs, Scarf, or Life Orb as an item.
Garchomp is standard, try Yache Berry; it makes it pretty much unstoppable. Swords Dance on the switch, kill their counter, and then try sweeping again later.
Infernape is good for this team, excellent wallbreaker... but again; you already have three good sweepers. To be honest, I would ditch him or Garchomp for Bronzong or Metagross if Weavile and Deoxys-E become problems.
EDIT: whoa buddy, you can only bump every 24 hours :P
Firstly, get rid of Blissey for sure. This team is pretty mixed sweeper weak, so you'll need more "generic" walls in Diamond and Pearl, such as Vaporeon, Bronzong, etc. Standard HP Electric vaporeon should be good, Wish+Protect for recover and team support. It'll lessen the Infernape, and Gyarados problem, while still covering Heatran.
Skarmory looks good, pretty standard. However, consider a Shed Shell on it as an item, so Magnezone can't trap you. It's usually more useful than leftovers. You may want to consider Gliscor instead, as he can handle Heracross and SD Lucario much better than Skarmory can (both maim him with close combat) and he can set up Stealth Rock and Taunt stuff too. Also provides some Garchomp coverage. Weavile can always move in if it gets out of hand. Bronzong is also an option, as it covers Weavile and Deoxys-E but then SDluke and Heracross continue to be a problem.
Gengar looks OK, pretty standard. If you're set on Substitute, at least try the Mcgar set ( Sub, FPunch, Hypnosis, Shadow Ball-- 96 Atk / 174 Spa / 240 Spe, Hasty, Expert Belt) as it can really mess up the opponent. I find that it totally ruins offensive teams, and, if your substitute is intact after a kill, Weavile and Tyranitar can't kill you. If you like the regular Gengar better, try Hypnosis over Substitute and use Specs, Scarf, or Life Orb as an item.
Garchomp is standard, try Yache Berry; it makes it pretty much unstoppable. Swords Dance on the switch, kill their counter, and then try sweeping again later.
Infernape is good for this team, excellent wallbreaker... but again; you already have three good sweepers. To be honest, I would ditch him or Garchomp for Bronzong or Metagross if Weavile and Deoxys-E become problems.
EDIT: whoa buddy, you can only bump every 24 hours :P