Rate My OU Team

guraboy

Well iv'e been trading on the Wi-Fi Forums for quite some time now and have amassed a decent number of pokes. So i figured it was time to build a final team for the various playable tiers. This is by no means my final OU team as i have very little experience in team building. Well without further ado, the pokes.

Overview:

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Its a pretty basic group of a special wall, physical wall, supporter, physical attacker, special attacker and mixed attacker. Here is a deeper analysis of each individual poke.


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Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest - Intimidate
252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- HP Ground 70

I love starting with specs-Mence. Many people have a difficult time discerning what type of salamence this is and thus suffer dearly for it. I know the analysis says Hidden power is not suggested but the added coverage HP Ground provides is hard for me to pass up. It takes Dragon Pulse's place in the moveset since I rarely use it in place of a Draco Meteor. This guy does a fair amount of damage to almost any pokemon that stays in on it or tries to switch in.


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Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish - Chlorophyll
252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spe

- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Knock Off
- Sleep Powder

One of my very favorite physical walls. Leech Seeds for the group, provides solid sleep support. Also boasts an incredibly powerful physical attack that will make other pokes think twice before switching in. Mojonbo = Win.


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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Bold - Water Absorb
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpA

- Wish
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- HP Electric 70

Vaporeon provides the team with much needed wish support. Beyond the ability to give wish to its team-members, vaporeon can effectively counter a number of prominent OU threats (like garchomp and gyarados). HP Electric just adds to the coverage vaporeon is capable of providing.


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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish - Sand Veil
252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Stealth Rock
- Roost

Gliscor helps take almost all the prediction work out of walling heracross while simultaneously providing solid Stealth Rock support. Gliscor also helps manage Garchomp with the ability to take it out in two hits. (minus the yache variety that i really hate >.>)


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Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Adamant - Snow Cloak
64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe

- Ice Fang
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Recently iv'e opted to use the Life Orb with blizzard in the moveset for that extra POW. Sadly, it is missing too much for my tastes and thus i am thinking about changing it to a Choice Band set and replacing Blizzard with Ice Fang for some more damage. Priority Ice Shard is fantastically useful for numerous reasons. This guy is pretty awesome.


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Infernape @ Life Orb
Naive - Blaze
24 Atk / 252 SpA / 232 Spe

- Nasty Plot
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- Flamethrower

This guy has helped me ruin so many teams. I Nasty Plot, and despite the huge number of mixed apes out there, people still switch in their Blissey/Special Wall only to be met with a Close Combat. Overall the mixed capabilities of this pokemon help cover a vast majority of pokes that may try to switch in.


I'm incredibly terrible at noticing what my teams are weak to as I mostly build poke teams out of pokemon i genuinely like using/watching. However, i don't really know what to do against TauntDos and many other big guys. So I would greatly appreciate any input on this current conglomeration of pokemon I have gathered together. I am more than willing to replace any of the pokemon on my team with other pokemon that would help my overall synergy. Almost all suggestions made will be considered as i'd really like to create a final team that i can try to finish trading on the Wi-Fi forums for. Thanks a lot in advance for any help provided! Cheers.



Possible Substitutes :

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Jirachi @ Leftovers
Impish - Serene Grace
240 HP / 56 Atk / 76 Def / 136 Spe

- Wish
- U-Turn
- Reflect
- Zen Headbutt

He is super sturdy, can easily and effectively pass wishes to team members, and will also be immune to Tyranitar's Sand Stream. Zen Headbutts flinch rate is also useful in getting a free wish in. Reflect is there to help the rest of the team survive various physical attacks while setting up.

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Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Adamant - Sand Stream
60 HP / 252 Atk / 196 Speed

- Pursuit
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Tyranitar would replace Weaviles position in my team. The added survivability and strength behind this pokemon is what makes it an extremely attractive addition. Pursuit will take care of Azelf along with the other fragile pokes. Upon his addition, however, Sand will become an issue. Thus, with Tyranitar comes the need for jirachi over vaporeon in order to make 4/6 of my team immune to Sand Stream while still fully functioning as a wish passer.

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Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly - Pressure
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe

- Pursuit
- Ice Punch / Ice Shard
- Aerial Ace / Night Slash
- Brick Break

So the role of weavile is obviously to attempt PP stalling the foe's team. JK :D Weavile is here to provide a solid source of revenge killing, while taking care of those annoying psychic sweeper (I'm looking at you azelf >.>). Pursuit puts all of those frail psychic types in there place. I can't decide between ice punch and ice shard, nor can I make a decision between aerial ace and night slash. Opinions on the move-set are greatly appreciated.

Former Team Members :

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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Relaxed - Levitate
252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD

- Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball

With numerous resistances, Bronzong is capable of taking a barrage of hits even with its lack of immediate recovery moves. Serves as a decent counter to Garchomp users, with its ability to throw a Gyro Ball in their faces.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold - Natural Cure
148 HP / 252 Def / 104 SpA / 4 Spe

- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled

I do not understand why people shy away from using this pokemon. It is so good at what it does there really is no substitute up to par with its abilities. I prefer the extra punch the Sp. Atk EVs provide over the extra HP, hence this EV spread over the 252HP/252Def spread.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def

- Thunder Wave
- Grass Knot
- Leech Seed
- Recover
 
not sure what hp ground it hitting that fb/hp aren't. Id just go for dragon pulse for a reliable sweeping move.


team is really gyara weak, as offensive ice fang/eq/waterfall variants will essentially sweep you after a dd, and standard taunt stone edge will still dent you. i would opt for a better counter, celebi over bronzong could work, you could trade hypnosis for leech seed/twave. leechseed can be beneficial with toxic spikes in play too.
 
Thanks a lot Gorm, hows this for a bronzong replacement?

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Celebi @ Leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp.Def

- Thunder Wave / Stealth Rock
- Grass Knot
- Leech Seed
- Recover

T-wave/ Stealth Rock/ Protect im not sure what to use in the last utility spot. Psychic maybe?
:D
 
Garchomp w/ eq/dragon claw/fire blast/filler pretty much destroys the entire team, mebbe a Cresselia or something might help...
 
hmm i was hoping that perhaps mamo could take care of mr chomp but perhaps i do need a better counter as bronzong is no longer in the picture. perhaps if i removed my rapid spinner (tentacruel), since im not really SR weak or anything with Bronzong?
 
either get rid of blissey and celebi's t wave or get rid of tentacruel and its toxic spikes. the two status' don't mix well.
 
wait get rid of what combination? im sorry lol just didnt understand very clearly.

edit : nvm i got it :D

edit2 : Team is revised with the return of Bronzong! ^^
 
I loved when you said you don't understand why people use Blissey. I guess being 1st or 2nd most used poke isn't being used...

IMO go CB on Mamo. I don't understand why people think it is good, except 2HKOing Skarmory and Weezing. Even then, you can't guarantee it since Skarmory could switch into any other move, and if you do predict and use Blizzard, they could switch to something faster and deadly, like Infernape, who coincidentally wrecks this team if it has HP Ice/ThunderPunch/Close Combat/Flamethrower. I know, nobody runs it, but it is too dangerous to say no to.

Keep your status moves, Thunder Wave on Celebi completely destroys switch in Salamence and Dragonite, while Toxic Spikes can't even hurt them.

Pretty standard team, just again, watch out for those damn Mixed sweepers and switch out Blizzard for Ice Fang. ATM, you can't 2HKO some Celebi, which is just sad for an ice poke.
 
Huh, that Mamo is going to be doing 69% min to Celebi.....

Anyhoo, I'd just probably like to get Wish onto Blissey. That Wish can probably help you a long way, such as Tangrowth repeatedly having to switch into Gyarados, and if sand is up, that's no help. You can reheal Salamence and Mamoswine who might have to do some prediction switch in's on Heracross and Garchomp, and Wish allows you to make a few more mistakes.

However, you do have a horrible Lucario weakness, so I'd probably like a Uxie or Mesprit over Bronzong. They can still help with Garchomp, and at least takes care of those Crunchless Lucarios. Or, we can go with Gliscor, who takes care of those Crunching Lucarios, and can still help with Garchomp just as well. All learns Stealth Rock so at least you're good to go there.
 
thanks a ton aeroblacktyl. i would love to put up a wish blissey in my team but, i currently do not have one nor does it seem feasible that i will find one with decent ivs. Note this is a wi-fi team as i generally find these battles more entertaining then shoddy, so i am somewhat limited in what i can obtain and attempt to trade for. anyway, Gliscor sounds like a god bronzong replacement to me as it will take kind of take care of my SDLucario problem while letting me not have to predict heracrosses perfectly. :D Thanks again for your help.
 
For all of Blissey's usefulness, we could always go with Vaporeon or Jirachi in that slot. Both can Wish and annoy, and it seems that through resistances, you have most special attackers beat. Azelf would seem like a problem, so if you're willing to change out Infernape, Weavile here would be nice, as a revenge killer, or even Tyranitar, both with Pursuit of course.
 
I love the idea of adding Jirachi to the line up, as it would provide a reliable source of wish passing. However, upon his addition a fast fire users might be able to quickly plow through around half of my team. For the same reason I fear adding Weavile to the line up, though I can't think of many fire users faster then Weavile (maybe scarf hp fire gengar?). Tyranitar would be awesome, however sandstream is going to annoy a lot of my team. This may be remedied by wish passing from vaporeon though so he seems like a good option. Also, with garchomps on every other team these days it is kind of frightening to think that i may be giving my opponent sandstream support. Hmm... Once again Aeroblacktyl, thanks a ton. I look forward to your help on the next update I make to the team. ^^

edit : ok added a vaporeon for wish support, and weavile to get rid of those nasty azelfs.

edit2 : hmm looks like im pretty weak to fast physical fighting pokemon though... im not sure
 
reviving this once to get final opinions before i start trading/breeding for my final team. im contemplating trading in the vaporeon for an impish jirachi, and weavile for a choice band t-tar. t-tar's sandstorm would not effect 4/6 of my team while wish/leech seed can help salamence and tangrowth. opinions?
 
3 fire weaks, 3 ice weaks. once vappy's done, you have no ice resists and only one fire resist and it's SR weak. that's no good. tangrowth's really nt helping you in that department either. i would switch it for heatran because it works well with salamence. make it some sort of sleep talker, even if you're just slapping it onto an offensive set.

infernape's really gonna hurt this team. i would switch weavile for scarftar for a sneaky revenge kill with EQ. it'll have to be jolly of course.
 
ok the team has been updated in an attempt to remedy my number of weaknesses. i would like to fit a phazer, spinner, or even both so if anyone has any idea of a poke that would fit well with those abilities please let me know. thanks again.
 
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