ORAS OU Rate my team

[Alphawolf464]

Before I start, I want to say this is an ou team, even though not all the Pokemon are in our, because I like to use Pokemon I actually like. I did play test this, and I won most of my battles, but I'm still low on the ladder so I would like help to put some finishing touches on it.

Nidoking @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Poison Point
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Shadow Claw
Nidoking is my suicide lead, because a hyper offense team always needs a suicide lead, kind of like azelf, with taunt and stealth rock, though it lacks explosion. It just takes as many hits as possible while setting up everything I need to sweep, and if it's still not dead at that point, I just attack to avoid having to switch out.

Pangoro (M) @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Power-Up Punch
- Drain Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
My physical wallbreaker, with fighting STAB, good for offense, especially against normal type walls like Chaney, blessed, and snorlax. Power up punch is to set up on walls, drain punch is good for dealing damage while recovering hp lost while setting up, crunch is STAB, and ice punch is good for dealing with pesky flying types. Of course, I won't be staying in against fairy types.

Simisage @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
- Energy Ball
- Hyper Beam
Simisage is my special wallbreaker, good for forcing a switch on a water, ground, or rock Pokemon, then using that turn to sub of nasty plot. Leftys get a bit of hp from subbing back, energy ball is STAB, and hyper beam is good for some specific scenarios, such as a last resort, or if I need to ko something and I'm behind a sub.

Manectric (M) @ Magnet
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
My special sweeper, I just went for a lot of coverage, to be able to ko as much as possible, quickly. Electric for STAB, hp ice for that electric is combo, and flamethrower is always good for coverage. Timid nature, as that small speed boost can make huge difference.

Arcanine (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Close Combat
- Wild Charge
- Extreme Speed
My physical sweeper, Arcanine is a somewhat unpredictable pokemon, due to it having pretty uniform stats. It's a pretty standard at offensive arcanine build, having extreme speed and flare blitz. Close combat deals heavy damage, and wild charge can ohko some not full health water types, which makes it good coverage, always nice on an offensive Pokemon.

Mightyena (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Crunch
- Play Rough
- Iron Tail
My revenge killer, kind of, I chose mighteyena because it performs as a sort of "clean up killer.". I bring it on on something that's low health, after any bulky Pokemon, priority users, or sucker punch stallers have been taken out. Then it ko's that pokemon, gets its moxie boost, and starts absolutely snowballing, plowing through any sweepers, then wall breakers, and then basically anything.

Give me any suggestions you guys think I could make :)

 

[Bimu]

Hello there! I played around with your team a little and have a lot of suggestions. However I am not sure how open you are to the idea of changing some of your Pokemon around so I will try my best to improve on the team we have here and based on how you play with each Pokemon.

First off, the lead. Nidoking is a bit too slow to utilize Taunt as a lead. While using your team I have been swept with Pokemon that are much faster than Nidoking and render Taunt useless such as Calm Mind Keldeo which out speeds Nidoking and can take any hit your spread can throw at it. So I would recommend you try using a Nidoking set with Roar. That way if you are faced with a faster Pokemon that set ups and walls your Nidoking you can force them to switch out. Dragon Tail can also be used instead however it will not be able to force Pokemon to switch if they set up a sub and can also miss sometimes. Keep in mind though you have to predict the opponent to set up and click Roar on the first turn.

Nidoking @ Rocky Helmet / Life Orb
Ability: Poison Point / Sheer Force
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful / Calm Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake / Sludge Wave*
- Roar / Dragon Tail
*Use the appropriate nature, ability and item based on whether you chose Earthquake or Sludge Wave.

Next up, I want to focus on your offenses. The offensive core of Manectric and Simisage is actually pretty decent. Manectric can rid of a lot of Pokemon that threaten Simisage such as Charizard, Talonflame, and other flying types. Once Manectric eliminates those threats Simisage should try to get in and Sub + Nasty Plot. That being said, I would urge you to switch out the Magnet on Manectric for its Mega Stone. Upon Mega Evolving Manectric gains an incredible boost in both speed and special attack, allowing to to out speed the majority of the meta. I would also recommend using Hidden Power Fire on Simisage as it allows it to set up against Pokemon like Ferrothorn and allows it to hit Pokemon such as Skarmory and Metagross. However, Heatran will still put an incredible amount of pressure on both Simisage and Manectric but Pangoro can deal with it. Arcanine can also deal with Heatran by hitting it with a Close Combat. On Arcanine I would recommend you switch to Life Orb or Leftovers. Life Orb makes Arcanine hit harder while Leftovers allow it to heal off some the Flare Blitz recoil. You can also go with Expert Belt which can trick your opponents into thinking you're holding a Choice item allowing you to take them by surprise.

Manectric @ Manecite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Simisage @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Finally you're team lacks any spinners or defoggers. Again I am not sure how open you are to changing your Pokemon but your opponents can easily set up all the hazards they want and you have no way of spinning them. So if you like a Pokemon that can act as a spinner or defogger I would try to find a place for it in your team.

I hope my suggestions were helpful. :D

Edit #1: Intimidate on Arcanine instead of Flash Fire will allow it to take more physical hits and is overall better. I would also listen to Fireflame479 and just rebuild the team with OU viable mons and build around something like a core or a sweeper. ~Good luck.​

 

[Fireflame]

Unfortunately, none of these Pokemon are viable in OU at all bar Nidoking, and Nidoking should never be a suicide lead. Although the above suggestion was really good, your team can be better if you used Pokemon from OU and BL.

Furthermore, you seem to be confused on the roles of Pokemon. Wallbreakers are Pokemon that use powerful attacks to nuke walls. Sweepers are Pokemon that set-up stat boosts before killing weakened teams. Therefore, Arcanine and Manectric are wallbreakers, not sweepers; and Pangoro and Simisage are your sweepers, not wallbreakers. I suggest you get familiar with the roles of Pokemon on teams by going here as well as what Pokemon fulfill a certain role by going to the Smogon Strategy Dex and searching a Pokemon. You can also search any tier in this dex and then see a list of all the Pokemon there (just like Showdown).

Otherwise, I strongly believe that you should re-build this team using Pokemon that are viable in OU. You didn't say who your team was built around, so I'll just list substitutions:

Azelf, Scolipede, and Klefki are all much better suicide leads than Nidoking. The whole Nidoking set is incredibly sup-optimal, including the EVs. He's used as a special wallbreaker, not a suicide lead. Personally, suicide leads seem useless even on hyper offense so you should consider the three aforementioned Pokemon or literally any other hazard setter in OU or BL.

A Pokemon with Assault Vest is not meant to be a wallbreaker. The idea behind assault vest is to give your team an offensive pivot to special attackers. If you want a strong fighting-type wallbreaker, Breloom, Mega-Heracross, Mega-Lopunny, Mega-Medicham, and Terrakion are all better than Pangoro. Tyranitar is a strong dark-type wallbreaker with added weather support. If you want an assault vest pivot, Azumarill, Tangrowth, and Tornadus-T are all better than Pangoro in that regard.

Your Simisage set is very suboptimal, and it lacks coverage. Hyper Beam isn't as useful as you praise it to be. Serperior, Breloom, and Mega-Venusaur all outclass Simisage as an offensive grass-type in OU by far.

Mega Manectric is much better than regular Manectric because it is actually in OU and it gets a huge increase in special attack in speed. It checks several threats in the OU metagame. Other electric-type special wallbreakers in OU that are better than regular Manectric include Magnezone, Raikou, and Thundurus.

Talonflame and Victini are better wallbreakers than Arcanine on the physical side, while Mega-Charizard Y, Heatran, and Volcanion are better than Arcanine on the special side. If you want to use Arcanine, then just use Entei since Entei is basically Arcanine but better due to Sacred Fire

Mightyena is not a reliable revenge-killer since it doesn't have a good priority move and its speed stat is bad. Tyranitar, Bisharp, and Weavile are much more proficient dark-type revenge killers than Mightyena.

Sorry if this isn't what you wanted, but if you're playing in a tier, you need to use those Pokemon in the tier to actually compete sufficiently. There's a reason that tiers exist - to separate the good Pokemon from the bad Pokemon. Obviously using the bad Pokemon means you're at a disadvantage. Right now, you're at a serious disadvantage since your team isn't viable. Serperior > Simisage due to what Serperior can accomplish in certain scenarios and its ability to fulfill its role compared to the rest of the tier. Look at Mightyena's offensive stats and compare it to Weavile's. They're both revenge-killers, but clearly Weavile is the better choice since it does more damage and has reliable priority.

Otherwise, hopefully I helped, and good luck.

 

[Alphawolf464]

Thx bimu, for telling me how to change to make the most of the Pokemon I already have, they're not in ou, but I want to use them anyway, because I like them. I've made the changes and will see how it goes.

 

[Alphawolf464]

I switched nidoking to krookodile, because it's faster, tell me what you think
Krookodile @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Dragon Tail
- Earthquake

 

[Bimu]

I switched nidoking to krookodile, because it's faster, tell me what you think
Krookodile @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Careful Nature
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Dragon Tail
- Earthquake

It does not really make much of a difference since Krookodile only out speeds a small number of potential set up sweepers like Suicune and Clefable both of which can 2OHKO with super effective moves.