I'd like to nominate JynxMieDon for tiering purposes:Alright, I finally have a new edition to the tier list. One of the hardest things about making these team tier lists is coming up with the names. I'm not sure what to call this next one, so I'm just going to generically call it Zap!
Starmie/Alakazam/Exeggutor/Snorlax/Tauros/ annnnnnnddddddd Zapdos!!!!!!
And it will be going in *drruummm rolllllllll*
Mid A!!!
Congratulations!
High A:
Mid A: Zap! (Starmie/Alakazam/Exeggutor/Snorlax/Tauros/Zapdos)
Low A: The Cholaski (Jynx/Chansey/Cloyster/Tauros/Starmie/Golem)
High B:
Mid B:
Low B: Classic Don (Starmie/Exeggutor/Chansey/Snorlax/Rhydon/Tauros)
The Specials (Alakazam/Exeggutor/Chansey/Snorlax/Starmie/Tauros)
Finally, someone fixed the specials team's lack of firing power. Not with counter chansey. Not with hyper beam exeggutor. But with Zapdos! Brilliant! And it doesn't even miss Chansey. The Cholaski is very good. It doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, but it doesn't want to see thunderbolt Tauros. Granted, very few people use that, so most of the time, it is smooth sailing, but if one suspects the opponent is using thunderbolt tauros, it forces one to play riskier in order to counteract that. Zap! on the other hand really only has Rhydon to deal with and honestly, I just don't have that much of an issue beating those teams. If that is the best the opponent can do to counter this team, then this team definitely has to go above The Cholaski. As Lusch said in his viability rankings, Zapdos is one of the best comeback pokemon. The value of that cannot be overstated in a game like this. If you are a skilled player in this game, you win the games you should win most of the time, but then there is a smaller percentage of games that the game tries to decide that you should just lose. Zapdos tries its best to annihilate the latter, increasing what your winrate would otherwise be.
Idk if I'll add to this again, but I'm very happy that I at least started this. If anyone wants to add to this (even lower tiers like C tier), or disagree with me and change the teams around, that would be cool. I just think a team tier list, in and of itself, is very valueable, and the most valueable thing that could come out of it is it changing the way we speak about the game (such as team weaknesses and team strengths), which would be very valuable in just giving us a new conceptual framework in which to think about the game.
JynxMieDon is a team that features relative bull resilience, in that Jynx and Rhydon both give Tauros turns and are scared by it, so this team fitting Back Starmie and Snorlax is great. Jynx often sleeps a fast pokemon(ideally Starmie) that would otherwise check Rhydon/Tauros, you can start paralysing things quickly and getting Rhydon/Snorlax online. Conventionally, this team runs single sleeper Jynx, but there are alternate builds with Sing Chansey. As a Jynx team, there's an obvious weakness to Gengar lead, but Rhydon evens it out versus a lot of Gengar squads - the ones featuring Zapdos and/or SingToss Chansey. Gengar exploding turn one into another sleeper coming out can be a pretty devastating line for this team, though(at least solosleep variations of it). Sing Chansey means that it beats Starmie and such worse, and you have to run Tbolt Starmie, and this means your own Starmie takes paralysis a lot more, so the concession to me is that your team becomes worse versus Rhydon and Tauros, but you shore up versus aggressive enemy sleep teams(and if you lose the Jynx tie).
The worst matchups are Gengar teams that don't feature a Zapdos(so you dont gain the advantage back with Rhydon vs Zapdos dynamics), such as GarEggMie and GarEggCloy. It's also very undesirable versus other Jynx teams when you lose the tie turn one.
However, the matchups versus Zapdos teams across the board, and Psychic spam teams(because you get to push with Snorlax so early into the game) are great! I think this team has generally positive matchups when it verses anything but Gengar without Zapdos, or losing the tie to Jynx teams.
I like Reflect/Hyper Beam Snorlax, in that it punishes the aggressive Gengar boom turn one line - sure, they get to sleep a different mon, but usually that Snorlax set is an enormous threat past that point.
I would like to nominate JynxMieDon for a B+/A- ranking. It's a perfectly good Jynx team that has generally positive matchups across the board, and leverages advantages in ones that would otherwise be poor(Rhydon vs GarZap especially). I don't like how awkward the gamestates can be when you lose the Jynx turn one speed tie, and versus some specific Gengar teams it can be awfully hard to play. It's still not autolost by any means though.