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Raquan95

Well it's back with all those changes you guys told me to make.Now with pictures. This time I am going to try to post in the right format.

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Tyranitar@Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
Ev's: 80 Hp / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Nature: Adamant (+ Atk , - SpA )
- Stone Edge
- Pursuit
- EQ
- Crunch

CBTar is a beast of the pokemon world.

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Infernape@Choice Scarf
Trait: Blaze
Ev's : 58 Atk / 252 SpA / 200 Spe
Nature: Naughty (+ Atk , - SpD )
- Flamethrower
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- U-Turn

My lead.He pwns other leads or at least does amazing damage. U-Turn is for getting out on a few pokemon.Naughty nature to do more damage.

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Gengar@Wide Lens
Trait: Levitate
Ev's: 6 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid ( + Spe , - Atk )
- Hypnosis
- Shadow Ball
- T-Bolt
- Focus Blast

Standard Gengar

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Gliscor@Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
Ev's: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 Spe
Nature: Impish (+ Def , - SpA)
- SR
- Roost
- Aerial Ace
- Ice Fang

He kills about 3 pokemon on average thanks to sand veil coming in at the right times.

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Blissey@Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Ev's : 252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 Spe
Nature: Bold (+ Def , - Atk)
- T-Wave
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss
- Aromatherapy

Cleric set.Supports the team very nicely.I just noticed that Bliss and Glis have the same ev spread.

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
Ev's: 172 Hp / 120 SpAtk / 216 Spd
Nature: Timid (+Spe , - Atk)
- Recover
- Rapid Spin
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Helps deal with Gyrados and adds rapid spin support.
 
Tyranitar=CC
Metagross- Flamethrower
Lucario- Doesn't Glis have A-Ace.

Anyway I need ice fang to take on Scarfchomp which is an even bigger problem.
 
Put your lead at the top.
I smell a weavile weakness.
Gliscor does have AA, but that just hits Lucario neutral. If you replaced AA with EQ, Heracross says hi.

And infernape doesn't counter Tyranitar OR Metagross, as it can't switch into an earthquake.
 
Raquan95 said:
Tyranitar=CC
Metagross- Flamethrower
Lucario- Doesn't Glis have A-Ace.

Anyway I need ice fang to take on Scarfchomp which is an even bigger problem.
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Lol , Opponent Tyranitar used Sub , You switch in Infernape , You call that a Counter? Give Gliscor Eq , CB Cross isnt doing much to Gliscor except for SD Hera if you are not running AA.
 
You might remove Rapid Spin for Ice beam, since SR is only affecting Infernape, who is usually a Kamekazee pokemon anyways
 
Deoxys-e could sweep that team as it can out speed an OHKO TTar, Infernape, Gengar, Gliscor and 2HKO Starmie and possibly blissey.
 
Rukario26 said:
Your CB Tar EVS are aweful , go with Careful 252 Hp / 42 Att / 216 SpDef
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uh and by awful you mean standard?

Tyranitar=CC
Metagross- Flamethrower
Lucario- Doesn't Glis have A-Ace.

Anyway I need ice fang to take on Scarfchomp which is an even bigger problem.
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like everyone has said, tar kills nape on the switchin so hes not exactly a reliable counter. gross also kills nape on the switch, and lucario will chip away at this team when it figured out you can barely 3hko it with gliscor. breloom can be annoying but ice fang will usually beat him down so definitely EQ>aa on gliscor. you can beat hera one on one anyways with ice fang and roost.


fire blast on nape to help beat down annoying celebis too imo.

the team is overall just "standard" i guess.
youre a bit weak to opposing weaviles as cbweavile ohkos or 2hkos everything on the team. nape can switch into him but without wish you might be in trouble. deoxys also scores SE hits on your entire team and can outspeed them all too.

honestly if you're a conservative player wide lens is ok but there's alot of items gengar would prefer especially since its only benefitting half of your moves 20%~ of the time. expert belt/lifeorb are ideas to play with.


tar is not really doing anything for this team apart from reliably killing cress and giving gliscor sand veil. Id try something like CBMetagross who can handle her/weavile/deoe. with no SR weaks, starmie seems a but redundant. getting rid of TS is ok, but play around with that lat slot. ice beam for garchomp insurance would be fine actually.

sorry for the fragmented rate!
 
I would actually give TTar 204 speed EV's in hopes of attacking first against CM Suicune (with a little extra to be sure). As it stands now, no member of your team is guaranteed to even 3HKO Suicune after one calm mind (easily achieved against Blissey, Gliscor, Scarfape, and sometimes TTar), except for TTar, and he obviously doesn't like eating surfs. Gengar will 3hko sometimes, but he isn't exactly the best choice for continual switch-ins, especially with a sandstorm going. You do lose seven HP on the deal, which is actually a shame with TTar's high defenses, but ultimately it will make it easier to take down a poke who could cause immense problems for this team. (Note that you will also outrun +nature/252 speed Marowak, though it is usually paired with agility anyway).

Wide lens is helpful, But Gengar would benefit a lot more from an item which helps his 130 Base Sp.Atk, such as Life Orb or Expert Belt. Even Black Sludge would be helpful since the sandstorm will often severely limit the number of times Gengar can come in.

Gliscor beats non-SD Hera even without AA. I'd just lose it for EQ, since you've got a fairly large SD Luke problem otherwise.

With 4/6 Offensive pokemon, and Gliscor being fairly Speedy, I think you can drop Blissy's Aroma for Ice Beam, Which will make it more difficult for Garchomp to set up. It also stops Gliscor (particularly the taunting variety) from spamming EQ on your Blissey. I would also put some of those HP EV's into SpDef (and SpAtk if you go with Ice Beam). Blissey doesn't need a few extra Hit Points, and it would be a mistake to underestimate the huge special threats in the D/P Metagame!


Good Luck; Hope this Helps! --TAY
 
lol does anyone in here at all realizes that Earthquake does more to Heracross than Ice Fang, so you should probably stop justifying your thoughts that Ice Fang counters it.... 100x1.5=150/2=75 > 65. Capiche? Awesome.

Anyhoooooo

I think you're going to be hard-pressed to play against Mamoswine and Weavile, so why not just kill those two stones with one bird in Bronzong?! Bronzong can easily repeatedly come in on those, perhaps attempting a RestTalking set of some sort, which also helps against Garchomp, as it's never enough to have something!
 
Your lack of ways to deal with Garchomp isn't going to end in a nice result most of the time. You should try packing 1 more Ice attack and on a different pokemon so Garchomps doesn't run over you. I'd probably run Ice Beam on Blissey or preferably Hidden Power: Ice on Infernape, assuming this is on Shoddy. HP Ice is probably more useful to you anyway, as you can revenge kill MixMence/DDMence/DDnite, who can take down everything on your team with ease.

Watch out for MixPert as it walls your whole team and can 2HKO every one of them, baring Infernape, TTar and Gliscor who gets an OHKO. You could try Toxic on Blissey over Thunderwave and slowly wear it out. Your team is relatively fast anyway so Thunderwave won't be much of a help most of them time.

Mamoswine and Weavile weakness has been mentioned by MoP and Bronzong is pretty much the best way to counter it.

On Gliscor, you want Earthquake for a more reliable STAB. All the fighters run away from it in fear, whether it has Aerial Ace or not anyway.
 
Definitely pack Earthquake on Gliscor, and also run 72 speed EVs on Gliscor to outspeed jolly tyranitar. It really comes in handy trust me.
 
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