RMT: These dudes are like on speed or something....like really

PyroDudeX

*~Here's a Glance~*

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Jolteon@Peteya
Timid
252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Hp
~Thunder Bolt
~HP [Ice]
~Substitute
~Baton Pass
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Sets up a sub, gets a boost from peteya and then sweeps or bass it on to Deoxys or Yamenga. The bolt beam set up can ohko most non special wall types.


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Deoxys (Speed)@Expert Belt
Mild
160 Atk / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
~Shadow Ball
~Ice Beam
~Super Power
~Physic
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The back sprite is the normal one I know. Late game sweeper. He brakes stalls with his move pool. A deadly force to deal with.


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Forretress@Leftovers
Relaxed
252 Hp/162 Atk/96 Def
~Toxic Spikes
~Gyro Ball
~Rapid Spin
~Explosion
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The rapid spinner of the team. Switches in on spike/rock setup, rapid spin and then layout toxic spikes. Toxic over regular spikes because poisoning with the sweepers kills faster. Gyro ball for hitting those faster and explosion to finish.


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Yamenga@Wise Glasses
Calm
6 Def/252 Sp.Atck/252 Speed
~Detect
~Hypnosis
~Air Slash
~Bug Buzz
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Okay fast and deadly. Hypnosis and then hit like no tomorrow. Detect is for blocking a possible SE move and gain more speed. Like a ninjask but "special" attacker. lol

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Celebi@Leftovers
Bold
240 HP / 92 Def / 176 Spd
~Baton Pass
~Calm Mind
~Grass Knot
~Recover
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Provides support to Deoxys or Yamenga to raise special attack or defense to survive a hit by a special move. Grass Knot for STAB and Recover to regain lost health.


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Dusknoir@Leftovers
Careful
252 HP / 76 Def / 180 SpD
~ThunderPunch
~Shadow Sneak
~Will-O-Wisp
~Pain Split
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High defenses and the capability to stop attempts to remove my spike set up. Thunder punch to hit a good amount of types and Shadow Sneak to go first and STAB. Pain split even the odds. And will-o-whisp for status effect.
 
You might want Stone Edge on Gyarados to take opposing Gyarados leads. The rest of your team has Gyarados pretty well covered, but if your opponent predicts you dont have Stone Edge, he can DD up on your Gyarados and possibly Taunt you.
 
I disagree with Stone Edge on Gyarados because if you encounter an opposing Gyarados, you can simply shift over to Vaporeon with no harm done. You do not want to risk losing your own Gyarados because of your own greed for your own, personal Dragon Dance sweep.

I don't understand what Infernape does in this team. With Gyarados, Garchomp and Deoxys under your wing, and no Rapid Spin coverage, a Forretress, in theory, should work wonders over Infernape. You can switch it in on a numerous ammount of Pokemon and set up Toxic Spikes to effect opposing Pokemon in favour for your Gyarados and Garchomp, and then finally your Deoxys clean-up. Let's not forget that Toxic Spikes will evidently cause havoc for your own team, with all but one Pokemon unaffected by it, who ironically is weak to Stealth Rock - which isn't far behind Toxic Spikes users - this is where Rapid Spin comes in handy. Vaporeon's Wish support will cover for any severe and significant damage inflicted on Forretress, to keep it going or atleast long enough for your sweepers to decend upon your opponent.

Summarizing, try Forretress with Toxic Spikes, Rapid Spin, Gyro Ball and Earthquake. Standard EVs and all can be found on its analysis.
 
Thank you I will try that.

But his purpose was just as a side scarfer but foretress looks like it has a greater purpose in the team then a side pokemon.
 
Choice Scarf Infernape has the element of suprise factor going for him, and nothing else. This is because most people expect the Life Orb varients, and therefore switch to an Infernape counter, where you retaliate with Infernape's U-turn in order to do bring in your own Weavile/Tyranitar/Heracross for the unsuprising Cressilia/Starmie switch-in. I don't see your team taking advantage of such with Choice Scarf Infernape, and this I recommended Forretress an an alternative to provide you with some stability. Being a genuine Choice Scarf Pokemon was nulyfied by Garchomp's presense, as he is also paired with Choice Scarf. There isn't a need to use them both.

Garchomp with Swords Dance (as standard and common as it is) isn't a bad idea now that I think about it. With Deoxys cleaning up the remains of the opponents' team, Choice Scarf Garchomp and Deoxys will get in the way with one another in fullfilling that task for you. This is not as vital, though.
 
Hmm I see. Another good point. Swords dance with a life orb?

Also if he wasnt a choice scarf infernape but with a life orb instead, would he have better use in the team?
 
Infernape with Life Orb is simply better than the Choice Scarf varients, but that doesn't change the positive effects Forretress awards you with. I don't think I would have hesitated in recommending Forretress because Infernape had a different set - if one of Infernape's movesets was better than the initial Forretress alternative, then I would have advised that. Obviously I didn't, which should have given you the impression that there isn't one.
 
Okay team got swept by a Weavile. :/

Anyone have an idea what to replace with a counter to weavile? Because I am stump.
 
to my knowledge gyro ball forry is one of the best, and with vappy and gyara im inclided to guess you just played dumb or let everyone except chomp and bliss die.
 
Oh except against Hax of an Ice Punch. :/

And never mind to this I did a new lead and replaced a couple of pokemon. Then 6-0'ed a person who 5-0'ed me yesterday.
 
Deoxys:
Hasty
160 Def
there's no point in having hasty when u aren't running mixed AND you're investing EV's in Def
go with timid since you're running special
also go with expert belt instead of life orb,,as you'll be hitting lots of pokeys SE :)
 
You seem to have revamped the entire strategy of the team into something completely different. I don't understand why you're using Drapion at all, the widespread of moves and strategic additions it has to offer are not being utilized to its full potential - because we can see that Forretress already uses Toxic Spikes. I suggest we replace it for an unorthadox, Calm Mind + Baton Pass support to pass to either Yanmega or Deoxys. With Toxic Spikes support, this should be relatively easy to iniatate for a fine end product. Celebi is well-known for being a successful Baton Pass user, so why not try it over Drapion and see what the results are like?

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 92 Def / 176 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic / Grass Knot
- Recover
 
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