RoAPL RoAPL XII: Format Discussion

[goldmason]

Gm.

It's time again soon for RoAPL! This was last year's format:

1x ORAS OU bo3
1x ORAS OU bo1
1x BW OU bo3
1x BW OU bo1
2x DPP OU bo3
1x ADV OU bo3
1x ADV OU bo1
1x GSC OU bo3
1x GSC OU bo1
2x RBY OU bo3

This year, both ORAS slots will be removed from the tournament, and we will be collaborating with OUPL (pending any Champions changes) to make up for this change.

Here are some other things we're debating internally, though obviously open to any and all feedback:

- 3 Managers per team
- Allowing self-buys (20k per self-buy, counts towards retain cap)
- Budget adjustment to 130k (10 slots, 3 subs) because of removal of ORAS
- Classic Bo5 as the neutral tiebreak tier makes even more sense now, so we are probably going to keep it
- What did people think about the bo3 slots?

Let us know what you think about the above or anything else about the tour! Also, we are looking for any interested RoA hosts who might want to host this. Lmk!

 

[Amaranth]

Please no selfbuys. They are historically not part of RoAPL and I think it contributes to the prestige of the tournament considerably that we don't start with the same wild unbalances when one of the teams has a really strong manager. They're fine for other PLs but here I don't really see the point of adding them. RoAPL has always been better off without them.

Bo3s good, Classic Bo5 default tb slot excellent, no other opinions worth sharing

 

[violet river]

will draft a longer post depending on how discussion goes.
I would be against 3 managers per team - meaningfully pulls from the top player pools here.
Budget adjustment down because of removal is good.
Classic bo5 as tiebreak was super fire
Bo3 is fine - id prefer we dont make it all bo3 so it's easier to support some of the slots.
I disagree with Amaranth's post above, as I would hope selfbuys incentivise stronger manager pairings to sign up. Manager signups in recent times have been pretty poor, and meaningfully detracted from the tournament. I would personally want to sign up to manage exclusively if selfbuys are in, but I think the tournament would for sure be fine without them. If teams with weak manager pairings get washed...that SHOULD be fine. Surely for RoaPL we can find eight strong manager pairings, right... although if there is selfbuys make it like 15 for one 35 for two or something, anything that nerfs double selfbuying. double selfbuy can be obscenely broken.