RU roserade

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[SET]
name: Spikes
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis
item: Black Sludge
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With the surge of Electric-types such as Raikou and Xurkitree in RU, Roserade has found its place as a Spiker that is able to stand up to said Pokemon. Additionally, with its ability Natural Cure, it is one of the best switch-ins to bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, being able to negate Scald burn, which can be a massive hindrance to most other Pokemon. Sleep Powder provides a general utility option that is able to net free turns to bring in wallbreakers or setup sweepers and also cripple opposing threats. On the other hand, Synthesis allows Roserade to check some of the Electric-types in the tier such as Raikou and Xurkitree more reliably, as it does not have to rely entirely on Giga Drain and Black Sludge recovery to keep itself healthy throughout the game. Another option that Roserade can run is Leaf Storm over Giga Drain with Life Orb as the item. This allows it to have greater damage output and the chance to OHKO threats such as Volcanion and Necrozma as well as do more damage against Steel-types such as Cobalion, Metagross, and Steelix. However, this comes at the cost of being more exposed to Electric-types due to Life Orb recoil.

Roserade finds itself unable to hit most Steel-types such as Metagross and Registeel for any meaningful damage except for when using Leaf Storm with Life Orb equipped. Therefore, Fighting- and Ground-type wallbreakers such as Bewear, Heracross, and Zygarde-10% make for good partners. Not only do they heavily threaten the previously mentioned Steel-types, but they also greatly appreciate Roserade's Spikes support, as well as its ability to handle bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, which helps to supplement their wallbreaking prowess. Flying-types, such as Crobat and Noivern, heavily threaten Roserade due to their typing as well as their great speed tier. Additionally, they can easily remove the Spikes that Roserade set up with Defog. Therefore, answers to those Pokemon such as Diancie, Registeel, and Stakataka make for great partners. Fire-types such as Darmanitan and Entei are a huge nuisance to Roserade, so bulky Water-types such as Milotic, Gastrodon, and Seismitoad complement it nicely. Their ability to reliably deal with Calm Mind Galarian Slowbro, which can set up on Roserade with ease, is also a welcomed trait. Gastrodon's and Seismitoad's ability to alleviate pressure from Roserade in checking Electric-types is also greatly beneficial in ensuring Roserade does not get worn too thin throughout the course of the game, especially if the user opts for a Life Orb set or to run Sleep Powder over Synthesis.

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[SET]
name: Spikes
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis
item: Black Sludge
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With the surge of Electric-types such as Raikou, Thundurus, and Xurkitree in RU, Roserade has found its place as a Spiker that is able to stand up to said Pokemon. Additionally, with its ability Natural Cure, it is one of the best switch-ins to bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, being able to negate Scald burn, which can be a massive hindrance to most other Pokemon. Sleep Powder provides a general utility option that is able to net free turns to bring in wallbreakers or set-up sweepers, or also cripple opposing threats. On the other hand, Synthesis allows Roserade to check the Electric-types in the tier more reliably, with the exception of Nasty Plot Psychic Thundurus, as it does not have to rely entirely on Giga Drain to keep itself healthy throughout the game. Another option that Roserade can run is Leaf Storm over Giga Drain, with Life Orb as the item. This allows it to have greater damage output and the chance to OHKO threats such as Volcanion and Necrozma.

Without Hidden Power Fire in this generation, Roserade finds itself unable to hit most Steel-types such as Cobalion, Metagross, and Registeel and Klefki (klefki has dgleam for the steel-type answers you go on to mention.) for any meaningful damage. Therefore, great Fighting- and Ground-type wallbreakers such as Bewear, Heracross, and Zygarde-10% make for good partners. Not only do they heavily threaten the Steel-types, they also greatly appreciate Roserade's Spikes support, as well as its ability to handle bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, which helps to supplement their wallbreaking prowess. Flying-types, such as Crobat and Noivern, heavily threaten Roserade due to their typing as well as their great speed tier. Additionally, they can easily Defog away the Spikes that Roserade set up. Therefore, answers to those Pokemon such as Diancie, Registeel, and Stakataka make for great partners. Fire-types such as Darmanitan and Entei are a huge nuisance to Roserade, therefore bulky Water-types such as Milotic, Gastrodon, and Seismitoad complement it nicely. Their ability to reliably deal with Calm Mind Galarian Slowbro, which can set up on Roserade with ease, is a welcomed trait. The ability of the latter two to alleviate pressure from Roserade in checking Electric-types is greatly beneficial in ensuring Roserade does not get worn too thin throughout the course of the game, especially if the user opts to run Sleep Powder over Synthesis.

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- Written by: [[gorex, 244449]]
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[SET]
name: Spikes
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis
item: Black Sludge
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With RU's surge of Electric-types such as Raikou, Thundurus, and Xurkitree the surge of Electric-types such as Raikou, Thundurus, and Xurkitree in RU, Roserade has found its place as a Spiker that is able to stand up (seems informal but unsure what to change it to) to said Pokemon. Additionally, with its ability Natural Cure, it is one of the best switch-ins to bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, being able to negate Scald burn, which can be a massive hindrance to most other Pokemon. Sleep Powder provides a general utility option that is able to net free turns to bring in wallbreakers or set-up sweepers, or also cripple opposing threats. On the other hand, Synthesis allows Roserade to check the Electric-types in the tier more reliably, with the exception of Nasty Plot Psychic or Knock Off Thundurus, as it does not have to rely entirely on Giga Drain and Black Sludge recovery to keep itself healthy throughout the game. Another option that Roserade can run is Leaf Storm over Giga Drain, with Life Orb as the item. This allows it to have greater damage output and the chance to OHKO threats such as Volcanion and Necrozma.

Without Hidden Power Fire in this generation, Roserade finds itself unable to hit most Steel-types such as Registeel and Klefki for any meaningful damage. Therefore, great Fighting- and Ground-type wallbreakers such as Bewear, Heracross and Zygarde-10% make for good partners. Not only do they heavily threaten the Steel-types (either remove "the" or add previously mentioned after "steel-types"), they also greatly appreciate Roserade's Spikes support, as well as its ability to handle bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, which helps to supplement their wallbreaking prowess. Flying-types, such as Crobat and Noivern (unsure about adding Noivern here as it doesn't like getting poisoned and doesn't usually carry flying STAB), heavily threaten Roserade due to their typing as well as their great speed tier. Additionally, they can easily Defog away the Spikes that Roserade set up. Therefore, answers to those Pokemon such as Diancie, Registeel, and Stakataka make for great partners. Fire-types such as Darmanitan and Entei are a huge nuisance to Roserade, therefore bulky Water-types such as Milotic, Gastrodon, and Seismitoad complement it nicely. Their ability to reliably deal with Calm Mind Galarian Slowbro, which can set up on Roserade with ease, is also a welcomed trait. The ability of the latter two to alleviate pressure from Roserade in checking Electric-types is greatly beneficial in ensuring Roserade does not get worn too thin throughout the course of the game, especially if the user opts to run Sleep Powder over Synthesis.

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- Written by: [[gorex, 244449]]
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2/2, here are some changes I would make (assuming you made Goldcat's changes too), they might not all be necessary though.
 
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2/2, here are some changes I would make (assuming you made Goldcat's changes too), they might not all be necessary though.
implemented both of these except some of the subjective changes.

also, didn't add on cobalion to the steel-types part, because as discussed in goldcat's dm, cobalion cannot immediately threaten roserade out as it does not ohko, and roserade's giga / lo leaf storm does a sizeable chunk (for anyone who was wondering).

shipping to gp.
 
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[SET]
name: Spikes
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis
item: Black Sludge
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With the surge of Electric-types such as Raikou, Thundurus, and Xurkitree in RU, Roserade has found its place as a Spiker that is able to stand up to said Pokemon. Additionally, with its ability Natural Cure, it is one of the best switch-ins to bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, being able to negate Scald burn, which can be a massive hindrance to most other Pokemon. Sleep Powder provides a general utility option that is able to net free turns to bring in wallbreakers or set-up sweepers, or also cripple opposing threats. On the other hand, Synthesis allows Roserade to check the Electric-types in the tier more reliably, with the exception of standard Nasty Plot Psychic or Knock Off Thundurus, as it does not have to rely entirely on Giga Drain and Black Sludge recovery to keep itself healthy throughout the game. Another option that Roserade can run is Leaf Storm over Giga Drain, with Life Orb as the item. This allows it to have greater damage output and the chance to OHKO threats such as Volcanion and Necrozma. big draw of using LO storm is that you deal w steels better. cobalion can only come in once into rose which is p relevant, steelix gets nuked, and it does quite a chunk to metagross

252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Metagross: 65-77 (17.8 - 21.1%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Metagross: 146-172 (40.1 - 47.2%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cobalion: 175-207 (54.1 - 64%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cobalion: 78-92 (24.1 - 28.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb Roserade Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Steelix: 253-298 (71.4 - 84.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Roserade Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Steelix: 112-133 (31.6 - 37.5%) -- 86% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

would consider slashing. up to u


Without Hidden Power Fire in this generation, don't mention past gens in current analyses Roserade finds itself unable to hit most Steel-types such as Metagross and Registeel for any meaningful damage. reword this to reflect the possibility of lo storm Therefore, great Fighting- and Ground-type wallbreakers such as Bewear, Heracross and Zygarde-10% make for good partners. Not only do they heavily threaten the previously mentioned Steel-types, they also greatly appreciate Roserade's Spikes support, as well as its ability to handle bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, which helps to supplement their wallbreaking prowess. Flying-types, such as Crobat and Noivern, heavily threaten Roserade due to their typing as well as their great speed tier. Additionally, they can easily Defog away the Spikes that Roserade set up. Therefore, answers to those Pokemon such as Diancie, Registeel, and Stakataka make for great partners. Fire-types such as Darmanitan and Entei are a huge nuisance to Roserade, therefore bulky Water-types such as Milotic, Gastrodon, and Seismitoad complement it nicely. Their ability to reliably deal with Calm Mind Galarian Slowbro, which can set up on Roserade with ease, is also a welcomed trait. The ability of the latter two to alleviate pressure from Roserade in checking Electric-types is greatly beneficial in ensuring Roserade does not get worn too thin throughout the course of the game, especially if the user opts to run Sleep Powder over Synthesis.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[gorex, 244449]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 359771], [Mac3, 291087]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]

qc 3/2 nice job
 

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[SET]
name: Spikes
move 1: Spikes
move 2: Giga Drain
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Sleep Powder / Synthesis
item: Black Sludge
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
With the surge of Electric-types such as Raikou and Xurkitree in RU, Roserade has found its place as a Spiker that is able to stand up to said Pokemon. Additionally, with its ability Natural Cure, it is one of the best switch-ins to bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, being able to negate Scald burn, which can be a massive hindrance to most other Pokemon. Sleep Powder provides a general utility option that is able to net free turns to bring in wallbreakers or set-up setup sweepers, (RC) or and also cripple opposing threats. On the other hand, Synthesis allows Roserade to check some of the Electric-types in the tier such as Raikou and Xurkitree more reliably, as it does not have to rely entirely on Giga Drain and Black Sludge recovery to keep itself healthy throughout the game. Another option that Roserade can run is Leaf Storm over Giga Drain, (RC) with Life Orb as the item. This allows it to have greater damage output and the chance to OHKO threats such as Volcanion and Necrozma, (RC) as well as versus do more damage against (assuming this is what you meant) Steel-types such as Cobalion, Metagross, and Steelix. However, this comes at the cost of being more exposed to Electric-types due to the Life Orb recoil.

Roserade finds itself unable to hit most Steel-types such as Metagross and Registeel for any meaningful damage, (RC) except for when using Leaf Storm with Life Orb equipped. Therefore, great (calling them great wallbreakers and good partners in the same sentence may seem a bit confusing) Fighting- and Ground-type wallbreakers such as Bewear, Heracross, and Zygarde-10% make for good partners. Not only do they heavily threaten the previously mentioned Steel-types, but they also greatly appreciate Roserade's Spikes support, as well as its ability to handle bulky Water-types such as Milotic and Suicune, which helps to supplement their wallbreaking prowess. Flying-types, such as Crobat and Noivern, heavily threaten Roserade due to their typing as well as their great Speed tier. Additionally, they can easily Defog away remove the Spikes that Roserade set up with Defog (try to avoid using moves as verbs). Therefore, answers to those Pokemon such as Diancie, Registeel, and Stakataka make for great partners. Fire-types such as Darmanitan and Entei are a huge nuisance to Roserade, therefore so bulky Water-types such as Milotic, Gastrodon, and Seismitoad complement it nicely. Their ability to reliably deal with Calm Mind Galarian Slowbro, which can set up on Roserade with ease, is also a welcomed trait. The ability of the latter two Gastrodon's and Seismitoad's ability to alleviate pressure from Roserade in checking Electric-types is also greatly beneficial in ensuring Roserade does not get worn too thin throughout the course of the game, especially if the user opts for a Life Orb set or to run Sleep Powder over Synthesis.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[gorex, 244449]]
- Quality checked by: [[GoldCat, 359771], [Mac3, 291087], [zizalith, 410251]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1]]
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