Lower Tiers RU Speed Tiers

[Twix]

148 / Trevenant / 56 / Neutral / 0 / +0
This should be added to Speed tiers after the recent drop. Also, Cobalion should be taken out (RIP)

 

[atomicllamas]

this is up to date w/ Toad and Trev + suspects removed

 

[P is For Penguin]

Will Klinklang be added to this? Im not seeing it and i know it was added to the viability rankings fairly recently.

 

[Ranbu No Melody]

hitmonchan is not on the tier anymore and is unviable so i think it should be removed

 

[rau]

306 / Venomoth / 90 / +Spe / 252 / +0

279 / Venomoth / 90 / Neutral / 252 / +0

459 / Venomoth / 90 / +Spe / 252 / +1

419 / Venomoth / 90 / Neutral / 252 / +1

these should prob be added

 

[Ping_Pong_Along]

273 / Smeargle / 75 / +Spe / 252 / +0

I have no clue about Goth. Unless it becomes relevant, it probably doesn't need to be added.

 

[rau]

239 / Samurott / 70 / Neutral / 252 / +0

304 / Vivillon / 89 / +Spe / 252 / +0

456 / Vivillon / 89 / +Spe / 252 / +1

309 / Rotom / 91 / +Spe / 252 / +0

I'd say these 'mons are relevant enough to receive a mention.

e: 317 / Jynx / 95 / +Spe / 252 / +0 jw if this is any worth too, tho

 

[aurora]

Speaking of relevant Pokemon, Ferroseed probably deserves a spot too. Excellent annoyer and hazard setter.

56 / Ferroseed / 10 / Neutral / 0 / +0

I'm not entirely sure how good Gyro Ball Ferroseed is (although I've heard it's not fantastic) so I don't know if this is worth adding, but...

22 / Ferroseed / 10 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Spe IVs

 

[atomicllamas]

Added those, thanks Aurora and Esidisi for putting them in the proper format for me. @ anyone using this resource who wants something added, please post the spreads in that format, it makes it 100x easier for me, thanks.

 

[MrAldo]

406 / Vivillon / 89 / +Spe / 252 / +1

This is 456 instead of 406, 304*1.5 = 456

 

[rau]

not sure if these are the most adequate sooo

96 / Slowking / 30 / Neutral / 0 / +0

117 / Slowking / 30 / Neutral / 84 / +0

156 / Abomasnow / 60 / Neutral / 0 / +0

167 / Abomasnow / 60 / Neutral / 44 / +0

96 / Mega Abomasnow / 30 / Neutral / 0 / +0

117 / Mega Abomasnow / 30 / Neutral / 84 / +0

and tr:

58 / Slowking / 30 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Speed IVs

58 / Mega Abomasnow / 30 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Speed IVs

112 / Abomasnow / 60 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Speed IVs

 

[fran17]

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CB Trevenant
211 / Trevenant / 56 / Neutral / 252 / +0

Trick Room trevenant
105 / Trevenant / 56 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Spe IVs

Rock Polish Tyrantrum at +2
482 / Tyrantrum / 71 / Neutral / 252 / +2

Defensive Emboar
166 / Emboar / 65 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Defensive Flygon
242 / Flygon / 100 / Neutral / 24 / +0

Offensive Granbull
137 / Granbull / 45 / Neutral / 44 / +0

Malamar
242 / Malamar / 73 / +Spe / 152 / +0

Piloswine
136 / Piloswine / 50 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Rock Polish Torterra
232 / Torterra / 56 / +Spe / 252 / +0
464 / Torterra / 56 / +Spe / 252 / +2

Defensive Torterra
148 / Torterra / 56 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Gourgeist-XL
156 / Gourgeist-XL / 69/ -Spe / 0 / +0 (if sassy)
174 / Gourgeist-XL / 69/ Neutral / 0 / +0

I checked mons that are at least B rank in the VR, the sets are taken from the smogdex, except for Trevenant and Gourgeist, for their speed I used sets I've seen around the forum o_o

 

[MrAldo]

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CB Trevenant
211 / Trevenant / 56 / Neutral / 252 / +0

Trick Room trevenant
105 / Trevenant / 56 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Spe IVs

Rock Polish Tyrantrum at +2
482 / Tyrantrum / 71 / Neutral / 252 / +2

Defensive Emboar
166 / Emboar / 65 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Defensive Flygon
242 / Flygon / 100 / Neutral / 24 / +0

Offensive Granbull
137 / Granbull / 45 / Neutral / 44 / +0

Malamar
242 / Malamar / 73 / +Spe / 152 / +0

Piloswine
136 / Piloswine / 50 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Rock Polish Torterra
232 / Torterra / 56 / +Spe / 252 / +0
434 / Torterra / 56 / +Spe / 252 / +2

Defensive Torterra
148 / Torterra / 56 / Neutral / 0 / +0

Gourgeist-XL
156 / Gourgeist-XL / 69/ -Spe / 0 / +0 (if sassy)
174 / Gourgeist-XL / 69/ Neutral / 0 / +0

I checked mons that are at least B rank in the VR, the sets are taken from the smogdex, except for Trevenant and Gourgeist, for their speed I used sets I've seen around the forum o_o

464 / Torterra / 56 / +Spe / 252 / +2 , 232*2 = 464

Defensive (or tank torterra) should aim to outspeed mola and jellicent but thats just my opinion, everything else looks good

Also, normal abomasnow can aim to outspeed 0 speed seismitoad

185 / Abomasnow / 60 / Neutral / 116 / +0

 

[atomicllamas]

got the above 2, thanks fran and aldo, I'll put in slowking / M aboma and regular aboma speed marks soon

 

[rau]

Aight let's go


249 / Absol / 75 / Neutral / 252 / +0

273 / Absol / 75 / +Spe / 252 / +0

394 / Aerodactyl / 130 / +Spe / 252 / +0

199 / Aggron / 50 / Adamant / 252 / +0

192 / Blastoise / 78 / Neutral / 0 / +0

372 / Sceptile / 120 / Neutral / 252 / +0

94 / Aggron / 50 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Speed IVs


edited it again to what seems most optimal atm

 

[rau]

Hey guys! atomicllamas passed the baton to me so I'll be in charge of editing the speed tier thread now. For anyone that's starting to read from this post: this list features Pokemon that are RU by usage and Pokemon that are ranked C- or higher in the RU Viability Ranking.

Added: Hariyama Pelipper, Roselia, Audino (Mega), Poliwrath, Uxie, Mega Abomasnow, Slowking, Absol, Aerodactyl, Aggron, Blastoise, Sharpedo, Diancie, Venusaur, Manectric & Charizard

Removed: some tiny shitmonchan mention

 

[feen]

566 / Venusaur / 80 / Neutral / 252 / +2 / 30 Speed IVs

+Spe should be here

 

[rau]

Well with the new drops here, guess it's time for updates!

added: Hoopa

removed: Charizard

sets added

239 / Hoopa / 70 / Neutral / 252 / +0

262 / Hoopa / 70 / +Spe / 252 / +0

393 / Hoopa / 70 / +Spe / 252 +1

130 / Hoopa / 70 / -Spe / 0 / +0 / 0 Speed IVs

As always remember to post any sets you feel should be added with the following format:

Stat / Pokemon / Base / Nature / EVs / Boosts / IVs (unless max)

 

[rau]

all mentions of Sharpedo / Megasnow removed yippee!!1!

 

[rau]

Well after a little break, the Speed tier has been touched up a bit. (credits Gatorboy and Take an Azelfie for nitpicking).

Durant has been removed.

Remember to suggest any speed benchmarks you think should be added with the following format:
Stat / Pokemon / Base / Nature / EVs / Boosts / IVs (unless max)

 

[rau]

Amoonguss and Quagsire removed.

Added the following Honchkrow speed tiers (not sure scarf is advisable due to frailty issues):

241 / Honchkrow / 71 / Neutral / 252 / +0
265 / Honchkrow / 71 / +Spe / 252 / +0

Also may a mod sticky this please?

 

[rau]

Updated with recent bans removed

 

[Rollout Shuckle]

339 / Scyther / 105 / +Spe / 252 / +0
286 / Scyther / 105 / +Spe / 56 / +0

So seeing as Scyther is a bit more relevant now it should prolly be added to the Speed Tiers. the first spread is traditional Jollly 252 but the second one I thought was a solid benchmark for bulkier Scyther spreads (I forget who created this but the full spread was 248 HP / 4 Atk / 104 Def / 96 SpD / 56 Spe with a Jolly nature. I think I saw this in the OP thread). It outruns the crowded base 80s Speed tier which is perfect considering its got Medicham, Gallade, and Venusaur all of which Scyther excels against.

 

[MrAldo]

Whats the deal with the second benchmark? scythers slower than mega glalie, sigilyph, drapion and meloetta (among other things), it seems like a terrible idea to do that.

I would just add max speed honestly. Im not sure why wouldnt you take advantage of that nice speed tier.

 

[rau]

Updated reflecting the Pokemon now present in Viabilty Rankings & Tangrowth removed :(