Announcement RUPL Format Discussion thread

[Spacial]

Haven't been playing RU for all that long, but since I like BW as a gen, I figured I'd give my two-cents.

To be brief, I love BW RU, but even I can admit that it's not a consistent tier when it comes to rewarding skill. Moltres + Durant really make a lot of games feel like a matter of getting good RNG rolls or just not getting anything done at all. I think banning both + maybe looking at sleep could help in that department, but that creates the problem of why one would bother in the first place when the meta would look completely different, on top of not solving the original problem of a small playerbase. I'd love to see it included in some capacity, be that with bans or otherwise, but I honestly won't be bothered if it's not.

 

[MrAldo]

Id like to thank everyone that has voiced his opinion so now to the decision in place. Format for this edition will be: 4 SS, 2 SM, 1 ORAS, 1 Bo3 (SS, SM, ORAS)

After much discussion the general consensus is that BW isnt a preferred option to be added on the tour until something gets done to apply some changes into it which is another can of words that we will need to discuss as a community eventually. Adding BW on the bo3 is definitely not as solution since it can squeeze draft plans for the worse and having 4 selections on bo3 instead of the standard 3 just feels forced and unnecessary.

With this decided, Manager signups can come up soon.

 

[bugzinator]

Anyone else think 2 SM + Bo3 is a bit too much SM representation for a tier that isn't current anymore? A ratio of 5 SS slots to 3 SM doesn't seem right to me.

If people want BW to go I think it should be 5 SS + 1 SM + 1 Oras + 1 Bo3.

6 SS slots might seem like a bit much, but since it's the current gen I don't think a lot of representation is a bad thing. There should be loads of people willing to play SS with slam just around the corner too so I don't think it would be a problem to fill that many slots.

Idk just from my own perspective as an outsider to RU I'd probably only sign up to this tour to play/learn SS with slam around the corner & I'd be much less receptive to playing SM.

 

[Finchinator]

Every single argument about the "uncompetitive" (or whatever other buzzword you wish to slap on) nature of BW RU has just been people drawing arbitrary lines between what is an "acceptable" amount of risk to incur throughout games and what is not on an overly general level.

Every single game in every single tier involves us taking risks with the strategies we are going for. One common Pokemon with Hustle or one common Pokemon with Hurricane is not suddenly enough to draw a line to keep the tier out of the tournament. I can easily play the same silly line-drawing game with virtually every other format, essentially nitpicking it to death for the sake of putting it in a bad light.

If you want to exclude BW RU, it should be due to one of two reasons: aging out of the format where the CG tier needs enough slots or not having the playerbase. If you guys have these concerns, which some people do with regards to the playerbase, go ahead and kick it out. I personally think there are more than enough BW RU players and would be happy to make a list, but this is not really my home community, so I will defer to the more passionate and active RU players on that front. However, if you consider removing BW RU for the state of the tier, then you guys are making a joke of the entire format discussion and tournament itself.

 

[MrAldo]

After an intervention I have just decided to gauge the interest for BW vs Bo3. I want to move on and both sides present considerable arguments so with this lets go ahead and do something: Lets allow the bulk of the tournament, the players, to decide it.

When players signups come up and you sign up to play either BW or Bo3 specifically, please state on all details. Based on the amount of signups we shall decide what would be the final slot.

4 ss / 2 sm / 1 oras / 1 BW or Bo3, this is final. See you back on this when players signups show up, right now we still need to select the managers ffs.