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Salamence

WreckDra said:
It's plain to see when there is Intimidate and Will-O-Wisp around every single corner in order to deal with Kang and Mawile. Mence is the hardest hitting Special Dragon that is in the Kalos Dex and with how many anti physical measures there are, why not take advantage of a base 110 SpA Dragon with passable speed and a respectable special movepool.
It also doesn't get access to Outrage as a Kalos native, but even then Outrage is garbage in doubles.
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Just to clarify, Hydreigon is a more powerful special attacker, but it is still the best special attacking dragon in the meta due to Intimidate.
 
gamer boy said:
Just to clarify, Hydreigon is a more powerful special attacker, but it is still the best special attacking dragon in the meta due to Intimidate.
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Yes intimidate is very good, however it is a lot to with its better typing and 100 base Speed.
 
I have player on Pokemon Online with a Physical Sweeper Salamence Knocking out a least 3 pokes, i preffer a late or mid game sweep, or an super effective oportunity to moxie quickly.

MOXIE / Choice Scarf - 252 EV ATK / 252 SPEED / 4 HP - Nature: JOLLY

OUTRAGE
FIRE FANG
EARTHQUAKE
STONE EDGE / IRON TAIL

I normally use this set, as a revenge killer, and since outrage confusion could be up to turn 2 o 3, thats why i tactically preffer a late use of it.

Hope you like this successfull set in my opinon.
 
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Misaiah said:
I have player on Pokemon Online with a Physical Sweeper Salamence Knocking out a least 3 pokes, i preffer a late or mid game sweep, or an super effective oportunity to moxie quickly.

MOXIE / Choice Scarf - 252 EV ATK / 252 SPEED / 4 HP - Nature: JOLLY

OUTRAGE
FIRE FANG
EARTHQUAKE
STONE EDGE / IRON TAIL

I normally use this set, as a revenge killer, and since outrage confusion could be up to turn 2 o 3, thats why i tactically preffer a late use of it.

Hope you like this successfull set in my opinon.
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please read the above posts before posting things like this, saves us all time in the long run :(
 
Misaiah said:
I have player on Pokemon Online with a Physical Sweeper Salamence Knocking out a least 3 pokes, i preffer a late or mid game sweep, or an super effective oportunity to moxie quickly.

MOXIE / Choice Scarf - 252 EV ATK / 252 SPEED / 4 HP - Nature: JOLLY

OUTRAGE
FIRE FANG
EARTHQUAKE
STONE EDGE / IRON TAIL

I normally use this set, as a revenge killer, and since outrage confusion could be up to turn 2 o 3, thats why i tactically preffer a late use of it.

Hope you like this successfull set in my opinon.
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This is my lowdown of the set:

Moxie: Intimidate is much better in VGC.
EVs: In level 100 singles (which I assume is where you used this), the remaining 4 EVs have been horribly placed. They give you an even HP number. This only lets you switch into Stealth Rock 4 times instead of 5 (not relevant to VGC, but you clearly have no experience with the metagame).
Outrage - sucks in VGC. Status is more crippling in doubles - especially when you have only 4 Pokémon to use per match. Stick with Dragon Claw
Fire Fang - outdamaged by Fire Blast even with no SpA investment and a neutral nature
Earthquake - the only sensible move on the set
Stone Edge - Rock Slide is so much better because it is spread
Iron Tail - sucks in both singles AND doubles. Way too inaccurate for a move with a: bad offensive typing, b: Focus Blast accuracy coupled with only 100 bp and c: Iron Head exists. (sure it is illegal on Mence in VGC'14 but that doesn't suddenly give Iron Tail a niche)

If you want to use that set in VGC, it should be this (although it is still outclassed by special sets in this Intimidate and Will-O-Wisp-infested metagame):

Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
 
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