Just a quick question. Why isn't Dugtrio mentioned as a team member for Specs Sceptile? Dugtrio can come in and trap both Registeel and Chansey, usually safely (since they'll go for Stealth Rock or their utility move), beat them both, and allow you to fire of Leaf Storm without fear. I know it's mentioned in the Team Options section, but I really feel that it deserves a mention on the set analysis itself, just for the fact that it can trap the two Pokemon that can actually wall Sceptile's strongest attack.
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Sceptile (Update)
- Thread starter Draco Zephyr
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Yeah, I forgot to mention: I agree there's little point in running mixed if you hardly invest in attack. For instance, Focus Blast does more to Registeel than Low Kick. So I support the 252 Atk / 80 SpA spread.
Thanks for all the input guys!
I'm going with the 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe EV spread. With a +Speed nature, this generates 352 Speed, which is enough to outrun max speed neutral base 120s (Alakazam and Dugtrio, who both use neutral natures very often). 352 Speed also comfortably outpaces the next speed tier, 105 (Mismagius and Scyther). Max speed +nature base 105s cap at 339 (obviously, 352 > 339). The only thing Sceptile loses out on is max speed +nature base 115s. The only base 115 that's remotely notable is Ambipom. Admittedly, Ambipom usually runs max speed, but Sceptile can't do much against Ambipom anyway, as it'll probably be forced out by the threat of Technician Fake Out. At any rate, the calcs for this spread are pretty impressive (thanks whistle!), and extra SpA only makes Leaf Storm and HP Ice more powerful.
I'll also give Dugtrio a mention on the Specs set itself.
EDIT: finished making changes. On the mixed set, I outlined the perks and disadvantages of each and every combination bar EQ / Low Kick in a mini-list I put inside set comments. (Hopefully the HTML is okay, I ran it through an editor, but I'm not too sure.)
I'm going with the 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe EV spread. With a +Speed nature, this generates 352 Speed, which is enough to outrun max speed neutral base 120s (Alakazam and Dugtrio, who both use neutral natures very often). 352 Speed also comfortably outpaces the next speed tier, 105 (Mismagius and Scyther). Max speed +nature base 105s cap at 339 (obviously, 352 > 339). The only thing Sceptile loses out on is max speed +nature base 115s. The only base 115 that's remotely notable is Ambipom. Admittedly, Ambipom usually runs max speed, but Sceptile can't do much against Ambipom anyway, as it'll probably be forced out by the threat of Technician Fake Out. At any rate, the calcs for this spread are pretty impressive (thanks whistle!), and extra SpA only makes Leaf Storm and HP Ice more powerful.
I'll also give Dugtrio a mention on the Specs set itself.
EDIT: finished making changes. On the mixed set, I outlined the perks and disadvantages of each and every combination bar EQ / Low Kick in a mini-list I put inside set comments. (Hopefully the HTML is okay, I ran it through an editor, but I'm not too sure.)
Implemented jc104's check. Thanks! One more GP check to go.
[Overview]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Although Sceptile is often eclipsed by other Grass-types, such as the omnipresent Venusaur, he has the potential to effectively fill a variety of different roles on a standard UU team.Sceptile iAs the fastest non-Uber SubSeeder, making himSceptile is one of the most effective users of the SubSeed strategy available. WAdditionally, with high Speed and Special Attack, Sceptile is tailor-made for the role of fast, deadly special sweeper (who can attach Choice Specs to increase his power even more). W, and with access to moves like Swords Dance and Leaf Blade, as well as a usable Attack stat, Sceptile can also be a viable physical sweeper. Despite his offensive prowess, Sceptile's low defenses often limit his survivability. When used correctly, however, Sceptile can singlehandedly sweep or stall through large portions of the UU metagame. All in all, Sceptile is a very versatile Pokémon who is a mainstay in the UU environment and should always be considered when making a UU team.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Choice Specs
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Energy Ball / Dragon Pulse
item: Choice Specs
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Three things make Sceptile a brilliant candidate for a Choice Specs set: his respectable base 105 Special Attack, his blazing base 120 Speed, and his wide special movepool. A STAB Choice Specs Leaf Storm from Sceptile is downright scary and will blast its way through almost anyone who doesn't resist it. Unfortunately, Grass isn't the best offensive type, so this is where the other moves come to the rescue. Focus Blast provides a high-power (albeit inaccurate) tool for hitting the likes of Registeel and Chansey, while Hidden Power Ice strikes Flying-types (specifically Altaria) and fellow Grass-types (specifically Venusaur) who are keen to switch in on Sceptile. The last slot presents a choice of Energy Ball or Dragon Pulse, two moves that are best suited for late-game sweeping. Energy Ball provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move when Leaf Storm isn't needed, whereas Dragon Pulsegives himoffers superior type coverage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Specs Sceptile is a top-tier revenge killer, netting many OHKOs with Leaf Storm alone. The following calculations demonstrate the power of Sceptile's Leaf Storm:</p>
<h3>Damage Calculations</h3>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Uxie - 99.4% - 117.2% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Swellow - 98.4% - 116.9% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Spiritomb - 99.7% - 117.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Houndoom - 91.4% - 107.6% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 100 SpD Clefable - 99.9% - 118%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 136 SpD Steelix - 90.4% - 106.2%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Milotic - 103.3% - 120.6%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Torterra - 105.1% - 124.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Mismagius - 86.5% - 100.9%</li>
</ul>
<p>This variant of Sceptile will be switching out very often, due to the Special Attack drops from his primary move being, Leaf Storm. Thus, Rapid Spin support is desirable to keep Sceptile healthy in the long run. Good candidates for this job are Blastoise, who can scare away the Fire-types Sceptile despises, and Claydol, who takes care of both Fire- and Steel-types simultaneously with its STAB Earth Power. Claydol especially serves as a good partner to Sceptile, because it can not only spin away entry hazards, but also lay down hazards of its own to aid Sceptile. Arcanine and Blaziken are both excellent partners to this Sceptile, as they have wallbreaking potential and can easily eliminate special walls such as Chansey (as well as the quintessential Grass-type wall, Tangrowth) that try to block Sceptile. Fire-types also have great synergy with Sceptile, as they resist many of Sceptile's weaknesses (such as Bug, Fire, and Ice), whereas Sceptile himself defensively complements Fire-types (resisting Water and Ground). Dugtrio's useful Arena Trap ability allows him to comfortably dispose of Registeel and Chansey with STAB Earthquake, making him an ideal partner for Sceptile.</p>
<p>The EVs on this set are self-explanatory - maximize Speed and Special Attack to fully utilize Sceptile's potential.</p>
[SET]
name: UU SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Energy Ball / Leaf Storm
move 4: Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 7 HP / 30 Atk / 30 Def
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With the advent of DPP, Sceptile's ADV title of the fastest SubSeed user in the game was usurped by Shaymin-S.Now, however, with Shaymin-S banished toIn the UberU tier, however, Sceptile finally has time to shine. Sceptile boasts numerous advantages over other common UU SubSeeders, such as Tangrowth and the ubiquitous Venusaur. Most notably, Sceptile possesses a magnificent base 120 Speed, which lets him outpace the entire UU metagame (apart from Swellow and Electrode). Sceptile's ability, Overgrow, works perfectly with the SubSeed strategystitute, allowing Sceptile to launch more powerful STAB Grass attacks when atif he ends up Substituting down to low health. He also has a respectable base 105 Special Attack to wear opponents down faster.</p>
<p>The tried-and-true strategy of SubSeeding is nothing new to Sceptile, having previously been Sceptile's flagship set in ADV. Switch Sceptile in on something he scares away (such as Milotic or Rhyperior), throw up a Substitute, and strike the switch-in with Leech Seed. From here, Sceptile's prodigious Speed allows him to create an near-infinite string of Substitutes to weather the opponent's assault, while simultaneously draining their health every turn. Sceptile can speed up the process by attacking with Energy Ball and Hidden Power Ice. Leaf Storm is a viable alternative to Energy Ball, because Substitute often brings Sceptile under 1/3 of his health (thus activating Overgrow). A STAB Overgrow Leaf Storm is tremendously strong, and can dent many of Sceptile's counters. However, the harsh drop in Special Attack hurts Sceptile's attacking prowess.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>SubSeed is a strategy notorious for causing switches, so SubSeed Sceptile is best paired up with Stealth Rock and a Spiker to rack up damage even faster. Sceptile does have the misfortune of being walled easily by bulkier Fire-types, such as Magmortar and Arcanine. Therefore, it is a good idea to use Sceptile in tandem with a bulky Water-type, like Milotic or Slowbro. They provide extra insurance against Fire- and Steel-types, can Ice Beam Grass-types and Altaria, and can pave the way for Sceptile to SubSeed unhindered.</p>
<p>One of the most common strategies in UU is to use a so-called Fire + Water + Grass core, which providossesses excellent synergy. To complete the trinity, a strong Fire-type that can cover up Sceptile's weaknesses can be used. Arcanine and Blaziken are good choices, as they provide the firepower needed to muscle their way through SubSeed Sceptile’s counters – while trashing any overeager Grass-types who can withstand Sceptile's Hidden Power Ice. This set's greatest nemesies, however, isare Flying-types. They either outrun or are bulky enough to dispatch him, and unfortunately, their STAB moves can trump Sceptile easily. To take care of these threats, you can use Sceptile in concert with Rhyperior, who provides the perfect answer to these problems. Rhyperior solidly walls Flying-types such as Swellow and Altaria, and has a powerful STAB Earthquake to dispose of annoying Steel-types. Dugtrio is also a satisfactory answer to Steel-types.</p>
<p>To fully reap the benefits of Sceptile's great Speed and Special Attack, both stats should be maximized. If one wants Sceptile's Substitutes to have more survivability, EVs can be allocated from Special Attack to HP.Preferably, Sceptile should preferably invest at least 196 EVs into Special Attack, which allows him to 2HKO variants of Venusaur (with Hidden Power Ice) that do not invest in Special Defense. The IVs allow Sceptile to maximize Hidden Power Ice's strength, as well as providing a Leftovers number. If the need arises, Sceptile can Substitute five times in a row using the specified IVs. Note that the specified IVs should only be used if Sceptile is not running any HP EVs.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Earthquake / X-Scissor
move 4: Rock Slide / Double-Edge
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Sceptile is traditionally seen as a specially-based Pokémon, because his base 105 Special Attack often overshadows his middling base 85 Attack. However, Swords Dance, the transition of Leaf Blade becoming physical, and a good physical movepool all work to make Sceptile a viable physical attacker. This set is simple - use Swords Dance to boost Sceptile's Attack to an impressive 538, then attack with the remainder of Sceptile's moves. Leaf Blade was pumped up to 90 Base Power during the D/P transition. Its decent power and high critical hit rate make it a solid STAB move for Sceptile and a must on any physical set. Earthquake provides great neutral coverage and allows Sceptile to hit Registeel and Poison-types. X-Scissor can be used over Earthquake, allowing Sceptile a way to dispose of Tangrowth and Leafeon. Rock Slide grants Sceptile universal type coverage in UU, while also taking care of otherwise dangerous threats such as Moltres and Altaria. Double-Edge is a viable alternative to Rock Slide, providing neutral coverage against the likes of Venusaur and Moltres.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Swords Dance Sceptile, like the SubSeed variant, dislikes Flying-types, who can come in, outspeed/wall him, and OHKO with their STAB moves. Therefore, this particular Sceptile is best used in conjunction with sturdy Steel- or Rock-types, such as Steelix or Rhyperior, who can eliminate these threats. Rhyperior, again, serves as an especially great partner to Swords Dance Sceptile; Rhyperior and Sceptile have great defensive synergy. Weezing is the biggest threat to any physical Sceptile, walling him with superior Defense and being potentially burning Sceptile with Will-O-Wispurning him with Will-O-Wisp or KOing with Sludge Bomb. Houndoom is an excellent way to eliminate Weezing, as he can come in on a predicted Flamethrower or Will-O-Wisp, which will activate the hellhound's Flash Fire. From here, Houndoom's STAB Fire moves can easily take care of Weezing.</p>
[SET]
name: UU MixTile
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Leaf Blade / Rock Slide
move 4: Earthquake / Low Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>As mentioned before, Sceptile has goodattacking stats on both sides of the spectrumphysical and special attacking stats. Additionally, many of his moves became physical during the D/P transition, allowing for both of his potent attacking stats to be utilized. This paves the way for him to become an effective mixed sweeper in the UU environment. This particular Sceptile is capable of destroying stall and does a very good job in taking out the premier walls in UU. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's primary method of attacking, scoring massive damage against the likes of Milotic and Rhyperior. Hidden Power Ice provides Sceptile with a valuable tool for hitting the ever-present Venusaur. The remaining two physical moves should preferably be used in complementary pairs. The advantages and disadvantages of each pair are listed below:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Earthquake</b> - This combination allows Sceptile to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake) and 2HKO Chansey (with Leaf Blade). Leaf Blade also provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move. However, these two attacks leave Sceptile helpless against Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Low Kick</b> - Low Kick grants Sceptile a valuable 2HKO on Registeel, while Leaf Blade, as mentioned before, cleanly 2HKOes Chansey. Yet, Sceptile sacrifices coverage on Arcanine and Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Low Kick</b> - Once again, Low Kick 2HKOes Registeel. Rock Slide lets Sceptile secure an OHKO on Moltres, but leaves him susceptible to bulky Arcanine.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Earthquake</b> - This combination gives Sceptile the best coverage, allowing him to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake), 2HKO bulky Arcanine (withRock SlidEarthquake), and OHKO Moltres (with Rock Slide). However, it leaves Sceptile without a reliable STAB move.</li>
</ul>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>In terms of pure attack power, Sceptile is inferior to other UU mixed sweepers, such as Blaziken and Magmortar. What gives mixed Sceptile viability is the sheer surprise factor. While he serves as an excellent stallbreaker, mixed Sceptile is best used as a late-game sweeper, due to the fact that he has much higher Speed than the aforementioned Pokémon. Mixed Sceptile benefits greatly from entry hazard support, which makes his sweep easier. Unlike the SubSeed set, bulky Water support is not as necessary, because mixed Sceptile has the ability to outspeed and KO most Fire-types with Earthquake or Rock Slide. However, it does not hurt to have one in reserve.</p>
[Team Options]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>While the Choice Specs set packs a huge amount of power, it is susceptible to Fire-types switching in on Leaf Storm. Sceptile has no reliable way of damaging Fire-types aside from Focus Blast (which is rather risky) or resorting to obscure and otherwise useless Hidden Powers. So, one of the best aids to Choice Specs Sceptile - and any Sceptile set in general - is a bulky Water. A prime example of a bulky Water is Milotic (among others like Slowbro and Azumarill). Milotic has great defenses, allowing her to easily deal with the common Fire-type mixed sweepers that are such a nuisance to Sceptile. Ideally, a Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic would serve as the best partner to Sceptile. If there's one status Sceptile really hates, it's paralysis, which nullifies his Speed. A Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic can absorb status for your team, as well as effectively support Sceptile with her STAB Surf, which can easily dispatch of any irksome Fire-types. Adding a Fire-type to your team completes the common Fire + Water + Grass core strategy; Blaziken and Arcanine are recommended because they can dismantle walls easily, allowing Sceptile free rein.</p>
<p>Rhyperior is one of the best partners Sceptile can have, especially to SubSeed and Swords Dance variants. Sceptile's greatest asset is his blistering Speed, so anything that outspeeds him is a real pain in the neck. Unluckily for Sceptile, one of the two Pokémon that outspeeds him is a counter - Swellow. To make matters worse, because Swellow is a prominent late-game sweeper, he can potentially prevent Sceptile from pulling off a late-game sweep of his own. To eliminate Swellow, Rhyperior serves as the perfect answer. Rhyperior's typing allows him to laugh at any attacks Swellow throws at him. Additionally, Rhyperior can take care of Steel-types, who can hinder special Sceptile lacking Focus Blast. Dugtrio is a also a very efficient partner, as his useful Arena Trap ability allows him to trap and take down Steel-types with a STAB Earthquake.</p>
<p>Because Sceptile is normally seen as a sweeper, entry hazard support is greatly needed to increase the chances of Sceptile pulling off a successful sweep. Ideally, the entry hazard layer should be a Pokémon that also helps Sceptile play to his strengths. An example of a Pokémon that fills these roles is Claydol. Claydol's STAB Earth Power gets super effective hits on Fire- and Steel-types,making Sceptile's job much easier. Claydoland it can Rapid Spin away entry hazards to make sure the Choice Specs variant can survive longer, while simultaneously laying down hazards of its own. It can also set up Reflect and Light Screen to ease taking hits for your entire team, gets access to Ice Beam to check Altaria and Psychic to check Weezing, and can rounds things off with a bang (Explosion) when it's done.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Sceptile can abuse Overgrow, his sky-high Speed stat, and his ability to force switches by running a SubLiechi set. The premise of the set is to Substitute on something Sceptile scares away, and then use Swords Dance. Then, continue to Substitute, which will forcibly activate the Liechi Berry. From here, Sceptile has an astronomically powered +3 STAB Overgrow Leaf Blade at his disposal. This enormously powerful attack, coupled with Sceptile's prodigious Speed, make a SubLiechi set very dangerous. However, this set is somewhat hard to set up, and priority users have a field day with it.</p>
<p>Another attractive (albeit unreliable) option that Sceptile has at his disposal is the possibility of running an Endeavor set. After surviving a fatal blow (via Focus Sash or Endure), Sceptile can use Endeavor to lower his opponent's HP to 1, as long as the target in question is not Ghost-type. More importantly, however, Sceptile's Overgrow ability activates, powering up his already powerful Leaf Storm. Even better, Sceptile can use Quick Attack to dispose of Endeavor-weakened opponents. However, the one thing restricting the viability of this set is the abundance of priority users in UU, which nullifies the purpose of this set completely.</p>
<p>Sceptile has access to Pursuit, Crunch, and Night Slash, three Dark moves that can work on the physical sets. However, their type coverage is unremarkable. In the healing department, besides Leech Seed, he receives Synthesis and Giga Drain. In terms of an alternative STAB move, Grass Knot is always an option, but generally should not be used unless one is planning to use Sceptile in the OU environment. Sceptile can use Counter in conjunction with Focus Sash to produce some interesting but generally unreliable results. Screech is an interesting option but is generally overshadowed by Swords Dance unless Sceptile is trying to force switches. Sceptile receives ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch to batter Dragons.</p>
<p>Sceptile can throw together a Choice Band set, but Swords Dance packs more power and is generally more reliable. He can also try to pull a Breloom with Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch, and a filler, but doesn't get STAB or the power that Breloom has. Still, the set has a surprise factor working in its favor. Additionally, Sceptile learns the Sunny Day + SolarBeam combo, but is too frail to pull it off successfully.</p>
[Counters]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Defensively, Weezing is arguably the best Sceptile counter around; he resists Grass, Ground, and Fighting (the most common attack combination Sceptile uses) and can burn physical variants as well as dispatch of any variant with Flamethrower or Sludge Bomb. Sceptile is also prone to being revenge killed by Scarfed Pokémon, particularly the likes of Moltres and Typhlosion. Registeel is also a fairly reliable counter to Sceptile lacking Focus Blast or Earthquake. Chansey sufficiently walls any specially based set well; a Specs Focus Blast can only muster a 3HKO (37.29% - 43.99%). Chansey must be wary of the mixed sweeper, though - his prime objective is to lure Chansey out and then strike her with physical attacks. Venusaur is also a good check to Sceptile, as he can freely switch in on any of Sceptile's Grass-type attacks (watch out for Hidden Power Ice, though).</p>
<p>Flying-types, as mentioned before, are Sceptile's Achilles heel. Swellow is a dangerous late-game threat that can outspeed Sceptile and OHKO him with Brave Bird. However, due to his frailty, he must stay on his toes and not switch in carelessly. Altaria is defensively bulky and can take on pretty much any Sceptile set without fear of retribution unless Sceptile is running Hidden Power Ice. Moltres sports a quad-resistance to Grass and can take care of any Sceptile lacking Rock Slide or Hidden Power Rock.</p>
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Although Sceptile is often eclipsed by other Grass-types, such as the omnipresent Venusaur, he has the potential to effectively fill a variety of different roles on a standard UU team.
[SET]
name: UU Choice Specs
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Energy Ball / Dragon Pulse
item: Choice Specs
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Three things make Sceptile a brilliant candidate for a Choice Specs set: his respectable base 105 Special Attack, his blazing base 120 Speed, and his wide special movepool. A STAB Choice Specs Leaf Storm from Sceptile is downright scary and will blast its way through almost anyone who doesn't resist it. Unfortunately, Grass isn't the best offensive type, so this is where the other moves come to the rescue. Focus Blast provides a high-power (albeit inaccurate) tool for hitting the likes of Registeel and Chansey, while Hidden Power Ice strikes Flying-types (specifically Altaria) and fellow Grass-types (specifically Venusaur) who are keen to switch in on Sceptile. The last slot presents a choice of Energy Ball or Dragon Pulse, two moves that are best suited for late-game sweeping. Energy Ball provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move when Leaf Storm isn't needed, whereas Dragon Pulse
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Specs Sceptile is a top-tier revenge killer, netting many OHKOs with Leaf Storm alone. The following calculations demonstrate the power of Sceptile's Leaf Storm:</p>
<h3>Damage Calculations</h3>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Uxie - 99.4% - 117.2% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Swellow - 98.4% - 116.9% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Spiritomb - 99.7% - 117.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Houndoom - 91.4% - 107.6% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 100 SpD Clefable - 99.9% - 118%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 136 SpD Steelix - 90.4% - 106.2%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Milotic - 103.3% - 120.6%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Torterra - 105.1% - 124.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Mismagius - 86.5% - 100.9%</li>
</ul>
<p>This variant of Sceptile will be switching out very often, due to the Special Attack drops from his primary move
<p>The EVs on this set are self-explanatory - maximize Speed and Special Attack to fully utilize Sceptile's potential.</p>
[SET]
name: UU SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Energy Ball / Leaf Storm
move 4: Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 7 HP / 30 Atk / 30 Def
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With the advent of DPP, Sceptile's ADV title of the fastest SubSeed user in the game was usurped by Shaymin-S.
<p>The tried-and-true strategy of SubSeeding is nothing new to Sceptile, having previously been Sceptile's flagship set in ADV. Switch Sceptile in on something he scares away (such as Milotic or Rhyperior), throw up a Substitute, and strike the switch-in with Leech Seed. From here, Sceptile's prodigious Speed allows him to create an near-infinite string of Substitutes to weather the opponent's assault
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>SubSeed is a strategy notorious for causing switches, so SubSeed Sceptile is best paired up with Stealth Rock and a Spiker to rack up damage even faster. Sceptile does have the misfortune of being walled easily by bulkier Fire-types, such as Magmortar and Arcanine. Therefore, it is a good idea to use Sceptile in tandem with a bulky Water-type, like Milotic or Slowbro. They provide extra insurance against Fire- and Steel-types, can Ice Beam Grass-types and Altaria, and can pave the way for Sceptile to SubSeed unhindered.</p>
<p>One of the most common strategies in UU is to use a so-called Fire + Water + Grass core, which p
<p>To fully reap the benefits of Sceptile's great Speed and Special Attack, both stats should be maximized. If one wants Sceptile's Substitutes to have more survivability, EVs can be allocated from Special Attack to HP.
[SET]
name: UU Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Earthquake / X-Scissor
move 4: Rock Slide / Double-Edge
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Sceptile is traditionally seen as a specially-based Pokémon
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Swords Dance Sceptile, like the SubSeed variant, dislikes Flying-types, who can come in, outspeed/wall him, and OHKO with their STAB moves. Therefore, this particular Sceptile is best used in conjunction with sturdy Steel- or Rock-types, such as Steelix or Rhyperior, who can eliminate these threats. Rhyperior, again, serves as an especially great partner to Swords Dance Sceptile; Rhyperior and Sceptile have great defensive synergy. Weezing is the biggest threat to any physical Sceptile, walling him with superior Defense and b
[SET]
name: UU MixTile
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Leaf Blade / Rock Slide
move 4: Earthquake / Low Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>As mentioned before, Sceptile has good
<ul>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Earthquake</b> - This combination allows Sceptile to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake) and 2HKO Chansey (with Leaf Blade). Leaf Blade also provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move. However, these two attacks leave Sceptile helpless against Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Low Kick</b> - Low Kick grants Sceptile a valuable 2HKO on Registeel, while Leaf Blade, as mentioned before, cleanly 2HKOes Chansey. Yet, Sceptile sacrifices coverage on Arcanine and Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Low Kick</b> - Once again, Low Kick 2HKOes Registeel. Rock Slide lets Sceptile secure an OHKO on Moltres, but leaves him susceptible to bulky Arcanine.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Earthquake</b> - This combination gives Sceptile the best coverage, allowing him to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake), 2HKO bulky Arcanine (with
</ul>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>In terms of pure attack power, Sceptile is inferior to other UU mixed sweepers, such as Blaziken and Magmortar. What gives mixed Sceptile viability is the sheer surprise factor. While he serves as an excellent stallbreaker, mixed Sceptile is best used as a late-game sweeper
[Team Options]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>While the Choice Specs set packs a huge amount of power, it is susceptible to Fire-types switching in on Leaf Storm. Sceptile has no reliable way of damaging Fire-types aside from Focus Blast (which is rather risky) or resorting to obscure and otherwise useless Hidden Powers. So, one of the best aids to Choice Specs Sceptile - and any Sceptile set in general - is a bulky Water. A prime example of a bulky Water is Milotic (among others like Slowbro and Azumarill). Milotic has great defenses, allowing her to easily deal with the common Fire-type mixed sweepers that are such a nuisance to Sceptile. Ideally, a Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic would serve as the best partner to Sceptile. If there's one status Sceptile really hates, it's paralysis, which nullifies his Speed. A Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic can absorb status for your team
<p>Rhyperior is one of the best partners Sceptile can have, especially to SubSeed and Swords Dance variants. Sceptile's greatest asset is his blistering Speed, so anything that outspeeds him is a real pain in the neck. Unluckily for Sceptile, one of the two Pokémon that outspeeds him is a counter - Swellow. To make matters worse, because Swellow is a prominent late-game sweeper, he can potentially prevent Sceptile from pulling off a late-game sweep of his own. To eliminate Swellow, Rhyperior serves as the perfect answer. Rhyperior's typing allows him to laugh at any attacks Swellow throws at him. Additionally, Rhyperior can take care of Steel-types, who can hinder special Sceptile lacking Focus Blast. Dugtrio is a also a very efficient partner, as his useful Arena Trap ability allows him to trap and take down Steel-types with a STAB Earthquake.</p>
<p>Because Sceptile is normally seen as a sweeper, entry hazard support is greatly needed to increase the chances of Sceptile pulling off a successful sweep. Ideally, the entry hazard layer should be a Pokémon that also helps Sceptile play to his strengths. An example of a Pokémon that fills these roles is Claydol. Claydol's STAB Earth Power gets super effective hits on Fire- and Steel-types,
[Optional Changes]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Sceptile can abuse Overgrow, his sky-high Speed stat, and his ability to force switches by running a SubLiechi set. The premise of the set is to Substitute on something Sceptile scares away, and then use Swords Dance. Then, continue to Substitute, which will forcibly activate the Liechi Berry. From here, Sceptile has an astronomically powered +3 STAB Overgrow Leaf Blade at his disposal. This enormously powerful attack, coupled with Sceptile's prodigious Speed, make a SubLiechi set very dangerous. However, this set is somewhat hard to set up, and priority users have a field day with it.</p>
<p>Another attractive (albeit unreliable) option that Sceptile has at his disposal is the possibility of running an Endeavor set. After surviving a fatal blow (via Focus Sash or Endure), Sceptile can use Endeavor to lower his opponent's HP to 1, as long as the target in question is not Ghost-type. More importantly, however, Sceptile's Overgrow ability activates, powering up his already powerful Leaf Storm. Even better, Sceptile can use Quick Attack to dispose of Endeavor-weakened opponents. However, the one thing restricting the viability of this set is the abundance of priority users in UU, which nullifies the purpose of this set completely.</p>
<p>Sceptile has access to Pursuit, Crunch, and Night Slash, three Dark moves that can work on the physical sets. However, their type coverage is unremarkable. In the healing department, besides Leech Seed, he receives Synthesis and Giga Drain. In terms of an alternative STAB move, Grass Knot is always an option, but generally should not be used unless one is planning to use Sceptile in the OU environment. Sceptile can use Counter in conjunction with Focus Sash to produce some interesting but generally unreliable results. Screech is an interesting option but is generally overshadowed by Swords Dance unless Sceptile is trying to force switches. Sceptile receives ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch to batter Dragons.</p>
<p>Sceptile can throw together a Choice Band set, but Swords Dance packs more power and is generally more reliable. He can also try to pull a Breloom with Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch, and a filler, but doesn't get STAB or the power that Breloom has. Still, the set has a surprise factor working in its favor. Additionally, Sceptile learns the Sunny Day + SolarBeam combo, but is too frail to pull it off successfully.</p>
[Counters]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Defensively, Weezing is arguably the best Sceptile counter around; he resists Grass, Ground, and Fighting (the most common attack combination Sceptile uses) and can burn physical variants as well as dispatch of any variant with Flamethrower or Sludge Bomb. Sceptile is also prone to being revenge killed by Scarfed Pokémon, particularly the likes of Moltres and Typhlosion. Registeel is also a fairly reliable counter to Sceptile lacking Focus Blast or Earthquake. Chansey sufficiently walls any specially based set well; a Specs Focus Blast can only muster a 3HKO (37.29% - 43.99%). Chansey must be wary of the mixed sweeper, though - his prime objective is to lure Chansey out and then strike her with physical attacks. Venusaur is also a good check to Sceptile, as he can freely switch in on any of Sceptile's Grass-type attacks (watch out for Hidden Power Ice, though).</p>
<p>Flying-types, as mentioned before, are Sceptile's Achilles heel. Swellow is a dangerous late-game threat that can outspeed Sceptile and OHKO him with Brave Bird. However, due to his frailty, he must stay on his toes and not switch in carelessly. Altaria is defensively bulky and can take on pretty much any Sceptile set without fear of retribution unless Sceptile is running Hidden Power Ice. Moltres sports a quad-resistance to Grass and can take care of any Sceptile lacking Rock Slide or Hidden Power Rock.</p>
[Overview]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Although Sceptile is often eclipsed by other Grass-types, such as the omnipresent Venusaur, he has the potential to effectively fill a variety of different roles on a standard UU team. As the fastest non-Uber SubSeeder, Sceptile is one of the most effective users of the SubSeed strategy available. Additionally, with high Speed and Special Attack, Sceptile is tailor-made for the role of fast, deadly special sweeper, and with access to moves like Swords Dance and Leaf Blade, as well as a usable Attack stat, Sceptile can also be a viable physical sweeper. Despite his offensive prowess, Sceptile's low defenses often limit his survivability. When used correctly, however, Sceptile can singlehandedly sweep or stall through large portions of the UU metagame. All in all, Sceptile is a very versatile Pokémon who is a mainstay in the UU environment and should always be considered when making a UU team.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Choice Specs
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Energy Ball / Dragon Pulse
item: Choice Specs
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Three things make Sceptile a brilliant candidate for a Choice Specs set: his respectable base 105 Special Attack, his blazing base 120 Speed, and his wide special movepool. A STAB Choice Specs Leaf Storm from Sceptile is downright scary and will blast its way through almost anyone who doesn't resist it. Unfortunately, Grass isn't the best offensive type, so this is where the other moves come to the rescue. Focus Blast provides a high-power (albeit inaccurate) tool for hitting the likes of Registeel and Chansey, while Hidden Power Ice strikes Flying-types (specifically Altaria) and fellow Grass-types (specifically Venusaur) who are keen to switch in on Sceptile. The last slot presents a choice of Energy Ball or Dragon Pulse, two moves that are best suited for late-game sweeping. Energy Ball provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move when Leaf Storm isn't needed, whereas Dragon Pulse offers superior type coverage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Specs Sceptile is a top-tier revenge killer, netting many OHKOs with Leaf Storm alone. The following calculations demonstrate the power of Sceptile's Leaf Storm:</p>
<h3>Damage Calculations</h3>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Uxie - 99.4% - 117.2% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Swellow - 98.4% - 116.9% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Spiritomb - 99.7% - 117.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Houndoom - 91.4% - 107.6% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 100 SpD Clefable - 99.9% - 118%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 136 SpD Steelix - 90.4% - 106.2%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Milotic - 103.3% - 120.6%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Torterra - 105.1% - 124.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Mismagius - 86.5% - 100.9%</li>
</ul>
<p>This variant of Sceptile will be switching out very often, due to the Special Attack drops from his primary move, Leaf Storm. Thus, Rapid Spin support is desirable to keep Sceptile healthy in the long run. Good candidates for this job are Blastoise, who can scare away the Fire-types Sceptile despises, and Claydol, who takes care of both Fire- and Steel-types simultaneously with its STAB Earth Power. Claydol especially serves as a good partner to Sceptile, because it can not only spin away entry hazards, but also lay down hazards of its own to aid Sceptile. Arcanine and Blaziken are both excellent partners to this Sceptile, as they have wallbreaking potential and can easily eliminate special walls such as Chansey (as well as the quintessential Grass-type wall, Tangrowth) that try to block Sceptile. Fire-types also have great synergy with Sceptile, as they resist many of Sceptile's weaknesses (such as Bug, Fire, and Ice), whereas Sceptile himself defensively complements Fire-types (resisting Water and Ground). Dugtrio's useful Arena Trap ability allows him to comfortably dispose of Registeel and Chansey with STAB Earthquake, making him an ideal partner for Sceptile.</p>
<p>The EVs on this set are self-explanatory - maximize Speed and Special Attack to fully utilize Sceptile's potential.</p>
[SET]
name: UU SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Energy Ball / Leaf Storm
move 4: Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 7 HP / 30 Atk / 30 Def
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With the advent of DPP, Sceptile's ADV title of the fastest SubSeed user in the game was usurped by Shaymin-S. In the UU tier, however, Sceptile finally has time to shine. Sceptile boasts numerous advantages over other common UU SubSeeders, such as Tangrowth and the ubiquitous Venusaur. Most notably, Sceptile possesses a magnificent base 120 Speed, which lets him outpace the entire UU metagame (apart from Swellow and Electrode). Sceptile's ability, Overgrow, works perfectly with the Substitute, allowing Sceptile to launch more powerful STAB Grass attacks if he ends up Substituting down to low health. He also has a respectable base 105 Special Attack to wear opponents down faster.</p>
<p>The tried-and-true strategy of SubSeeding is nothing new to Sceptile, having previously been Sceptile's flagship set in ADV. Switch Sceptile in on something he scares away (such as Milotic or Rhyperior), throw up a Substitute, and strike the switch-in with Leech Seed. From here, Sceptile's prodigious Speed allows him to create an near-infinite string of Substitutes to weather the opponent's assault while simultaneously draining their health every turn. Sceptile can speed up the process by attacking with Energy Ball and Hidden Power Ice. Leaf Storm is a viable alternative to Energy Ball, because Substitute often brings Sceptile under 1/3 of his health (thus activating Overgrow). A STAB Overgrow Leaf Storm is tremendously strong, and can dent many of Sceptile's counters. However, the harsh drop in Special Attack hurts Sceptile's attacking prowess.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>SubSeed is a strategy notorious for causing switches, so SubSeed Sceptile is best paired up with Stealth Rock and a Spiker to rack up damage even faster. Sceptile does have the misfortune of being walled easily by bulkier Fire-types, such as Magmortar and Arcanine. Therefore, it is a good idea to use Sceptile in tandem with a bulky Water-type, like Milotic or Slowbro. They provide extra insurance against Fire- and Steel-types, can Ice Beam Grass-types and Altaria, and can pave the way for Sceptile to SubSeed unhindered.</p>
<p>One of the most common strategies in UU is to use a so-called Fire + Water + Grass core, which possesses excellent synergy. To complete the trinity, a strong Fire-type that can cover up Sceptile's weaknesses can be used. Arcanine and Blaziken are good choices, as they provide the firepower needed to muscle their way through SubSeed Sceptile’s counters while trashing any overeager Grass-types who can withstand Sceptile's Hidden Power Ice. This set's greatest nemeses, however, are Flying-types. They either outrun or are bulky enough to dispatch him, and unfortunately, their STAB moves can trump Sceptile easily. To take care of these threats, you can use Sceptile in concert with Rhyperior, who provides the perfect answer to these problems. Rhyperior solidly walls Flying-types such as Swellow and Altaria and has a powerful STAB Earthquake to dispose of annoying Steel-types. Dugtrio is also a satisfactory answer to Steel-types.</p>
<p>To fully reap the benefits of Sceptile's great Speed and Special Attack, both stats should be maximized. If one wants Sceptile's Substitutes to have more survivability, EVs can be allocated from Special Attack to HP. Sceptile should preferably invest at least 196 EVs into Special Attack, which allows him to 2HKO variants of Venusaur (with Hidden Power Ice) that do not invest in Special Defense. The IVs allow Sceptile to maximize Hidden Power Ice's strength, as well as providing a Leftovers number. If the need arises, Sceptile can Substitute five times in a row using the specified IVs. Note that the specified IVs should only be used if Sceptile is not running any HP EVs.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Earthquake / X-Scissor
move 4: Rock Slide / Double-Edge
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Sceptile is traditionally seen as a specially-based Pokémon because his base 105 Special Attack often overshadows his middling base 85 Attack. However, Swords Dance, the transition of Leaf Blade becoming physical, and a good physical movepool all work to make Sceptile a viable physical attacker. This set is simple - use Swords Dance to boost Sceptile's Attack to an impressive 538, then attack with the remainder of Sceptile's moves. Leaf Blade was pumped up to 90 Base Power during the D/P transition. Its decent power and high critical hit rate make it a solid STAB move for Sceptile and a must on any physical set. Earthquake provides great neutral coverage and allows Sceptile to hit Registeel and Poison-types. X-Scissor can be used over Earthquake, allowing Sceptile a way to dispose of Tangrowth and Leafeon. Rock Slide grants Sceptile universal type coverage in UU, while also taking care of otherwise dangerous threats such as Moltres and Altaria. Double-Edge is a viable alternative to Rock Slide, providing neutral coverage against the likes of Venusaur and Moltres.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Swords Dance Sceptile, like the SubSeed variant, dislikes Flying-types, who can come in, outspeed/wall him, and OHKO with their STAB moves. Therefore, this particular Sceptile is best used in conjunction with sturdy Steel- or Rock-types, such as Steelix or Rhyperior, who can eliminate these threats. Rhyperior, again, serves as an especially great partner to Swords Dance Sceptile; Rhyperior and Sceptile have great defensive synergy. Weezing is the biggest threat to any physical Sceptile, walling him with superior Defense and burning him with Will-O-Wisp or KOing with Sludge Bomb. Houndoom is an excellent way to eliminate Weezing, as he can come in on a predicted Will-O-Wisp, which will activate the hellhound's Flash Fire. From here, Houndoom's STAB Fire moves can easily take care of Weezing.</p>
[SET]
name: UU MixTile
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Leaf Blade / Rock Slide
move 4: Earthquake / Low Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>As mentioned before, Sceptile has good physical and special attacking stats. Additionally, many of his moves became physical during the D/P transition, allowing for both of his potent attacking stats to be utilized. This paves the way for him to become an effective mixed sweeper in the UU environment. This particular Sceptile is capable of destroying stall and does a very good job in taking out the premier walls in UU. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's primary method of attacking, scoring massive damage against the likes of Milotic and Rhyperior. Hidden Power Ice provides Sceptile with a valuable tool for hitting the ever-present Venusaur. The remaining two physical moves should preferably be used in complementary pairs. The advantages and disadvantages of each pair are listed below:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Earthquake</b> - This combination allows Sceptile to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake) and 2HKO Chansey (with Leaf Blade). Leaf Blade also provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move. However, these two attacks leave Sceptile helpless against Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Low Kick</b> - Low Kick grants Sceptile a valuable 2HKO on Registeel, while Leaf Blade, as mentioned before, cleanly 2HKOes Chansey. Yet, Sceptile sacrifices coverage on Arcanine and Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Low Kick</b> - Once again, Low Kick 2HKOes Registeel. Rock Slide lets Sceptile secure an OHKO on Moltres, but leaves him susceptible to bulky Arcanine.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Earthquake</b> - This combination gives Sceptile the best coverage, allowing him to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake), 2HKO bulky Arcanine (with Earthquake), and OHKO Moltres (with Rock Slide). However, it leaves Sceptile without a reliable STAB move.</li>
</ul>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>In terms of pure attack power, Sceptile is inferior to other UU mixed sweepers, such as Blaziken and Magmortar. What gives mixed Sceptile viability is the sheer surprise factor. While he serves as an excellent stallbreaker, mixed Sceptile is best used as a late-game sweeper due to the fact that he has much higher Speed than the aforementioned Pokémon. Mixed Sceptile benefits greatly from entry hazard support, which makes his sweep easier. Unlike the SubSeed set, bulky Water support is not as necessary because mixed Sceptile has the ability to outspeed and KO most Fire-types with Earthquake or Rock Slide. However, it does not hurt to have one in reserve.</p>
[Team Options]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>While the Choice Specs set packs a huge amount of power, it is susceptible to Fire-types switching in on Leaf Storm. Sceptile has no reliable way of damaging Fire-types aside from Focus Blast (which is rather risky) or resorting to obscure and otherwise useless Hidden Powers. So, one of the best aids to Choice Specs Sceptile - and any Sceptile set in general - is a bulky Water. A prime example of a bulky Water is Milotic (among others like Slowbro and Azumarill). Milotic has great defenses, allowing her to easily deal with the common Fire-type mixed sweepers that are such a nuisance to Sceptile. Ideally, a Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic would serve as the best partner to Sceptile. If there's one status Sceptile really hates, it's paralysis, which nullifies his Speed. A Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic can absorb status for your team as well as effectively support Sceptile with her STAB Surf, which can easily dispatch of any irksome Fire-types. Adding a Fire-type to your team completes the common Fire + Water + Grass core strategy; Blaziken and Arcanine are recommended because they can dismantle walls easily, allowing Sceptile free rein.</p>
<p>Rhyperior is one of the best partners Sceptile can have, especially to SubSeed and Swords Dance variants. Sceptile's greatest asset is his blistering Speed, so anything that outspeeds him is a real pain in the neck. Unluckily for Sceptile, one of the two Pokémon that outspeeds him is a counter - Swellow. To make matters worse, because Swellow is a prominent late-game sweeper, he can potentially prevent Sceptile from pulling off a late-game sweep of his own. To eliminate Swellow, Rhyperior serves as the perfect answer. Rhyperior's typing allows him to laugh at any attacks Swellow throws at him. Additionally, Rhyperior can take care of Steel-types, who can hinder special Sceptile lacking Focus Blast. Dugtrio is a also a very efficient partner, as his useful Arena Trap ability allows him to trap and take down Steel-types with a STAB Earthquake.</p>
<p>Because Sceptile is normally seen as a sweeper, entry hazard support is greatly needed to increase the chances of Sceptile pulling off a successful sweep. Ideally, the entry hazard layer should be a Pokémon that also helps Sceptile play to his strengths. An example of a Pokémon that fills these roles is Claydol. Claydol's STAB Earth Power gets super effective hits on Fire- and Steel-types, and it can Rapid Spin away entry hazards to make sure the Choice Specs variant can survive longer, while simultaneously laying down hazards of its own. It can also set up Reflect and Light Screen to ease taking hits for your entire team, gets access to Ice Beam to check Altaria and Psychic to check Weezing, and can round things off with a bang (Explosion) when it's done.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Sceptile can abuse Overgrow, his sky-high Speed stat, and his ability to force switches by running a SubLiechi set. The premise of the set is to Substitute on something Sceptile scares away, and then use Swords Dance. Then, continue to Substitute, which will forcibly activate the Liechi Berry. From here, Sceptile has an astronomically powered +3 STAB Overgrow Leaf Blade at his disposal. This enormously powerful attack, coupled with Sceptile's prodigious Speed, make a SubLiechi set very dangerous. However, this set is somewhat hard to set up, and priority users have a field day with it.</p>
<p>Another attractive (albeit unreliable) option that Sceptile has at his disposal is the possibility of running an Endeavor set. After surviving a fatal blow (via Focus Sash or Endure), Sceptile can use Endeavor to lower his opponent's HP to 1, as long as the target in question is not Ghost-type. More importantly, however, Sceptile's Overgrow ability activates, powering up his already powerful Leaf Storm. Even better, Sceptile can use Quick Attack to dispose of Endeavor-weakened opponents. However, the one thing restricting the viability of this set is the abundance of priority users in UU, which nullifies the purpose of this set completely.</p>
<p>Sceptile has access to Pursuit, Crunch, and Night Slash, three Dark moves that can work on the physical sets. However, their type coverage is unremarkable. In the healing department, besides Leech Seed, he receives Synthesis and Giga Drain. In terms of an alternative STAB move, Grass Knot is always an option, but generally should not be used unless one is planning to use Sceptile in the OU environment. Sceptile can use Counter in conjunction with Focus Sash to produce some interesting but generally unreliable results. Screech is an interesting option but is generally overshadowed by Swords Dance unless Sceptile is trying to force switches. Sceptile receives ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch to batter Dragons.</p>
<p>Sceptile can throw together a Choice Band set, but Swords Dance packs more power and is generally more reliable. He can also try to pull a Breloom with Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch, and a filler, but doesn't get STAB or the power that Breloom has. Still, the set has a surprise factor working in its favor. Additionally, Sceptile learns the Sunny Day + SolarBeam combo, but is too frail to pull it off successfully.</p>
[Counters]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Defensively, Weezing is arguably the best Sceptile counter around; he resists Grass, Ground, and Fighting (the most common attack combination Sceptile uses) and can burn physical variants as well as dispatch of any variant with Flamethrower or Sludge Bomb. Sceptile is also prone to being revenge killed by Scarfed Pokémon, particularly the likes of Moltres and Typhlosion. Registeel is also a fairly reliable counter to Sceptile lacking Focus Blast or Earthquake. Chansey sufficiently walls any specially based set well; a Specs Focus Blast can only muster a 3HKO (37.29% - 43.99%). Chansey must be wary of the mixed sweeper, though - his prime objective is to lure Chansey out and then strike her with physical attacks. Venusaur is also a good check to Sceptile, as he can freely switch in on any of Sceptile's Grass-type attacks (watch out for Hidden Power Ice, though).</p>
<p>Flying-types, as mentioned before, are Sceptile's Achilles heel. Swellow is a dangerous late-game threat that can outspeed Sceptile and OHKO him with Brave Bird. However, due to his frailty, he must stay on his toes and not switch in carelessly. Altaria is defensively bulky and can take on pretty much any Sceptile set without fear of retribution unless Sceptile is running Hidden Power Ice. Moltres sports a quad-resistance to Grass and can take care of any Sceptile lacking Rock Slide or Hidden Power Rock.</p>
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Although Sceptile is often eclipsed by other Grass-types, such as the omnipresent Venusaur, he has the potential to effectively fill a variety of different roles on a standard UU team. As the fastest non-Uber SubSeeder, Sceptile is one of the most effective users of the SubSeed strategy available. Additionally, with high Speed and Special Attack, Sceptile is tailor-made for the role of fast, deadly special sweeper, and with access to moves like Swords Dance and Leaf Blade, as well as a usable Attack stat, Sceptile can also be a viable physical sweeper. Despite his offensive prowess, Sceptile's low defenses often limit his survivability. When used correctly, however, Sceptile can singlehandedly sweep or stall through large portions of the UU metagame. All in all, Sceptile is a very versatile Pokémon who is a mainstay in the UU environment and should always be considered when making a UU team.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Choice Specs
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Focus Blast
move 3: Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Energy Ball / Dragon Pulse
item: Choice Specs
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Three things make Sceptile a brilliant candidate for a Choice Specs set: his respectable base 105 Special Attack, his blazing base 120 Speed, and his wide special movepool. A STAB Choice Specs Leaf Storm from Sceptile is downright scary and will blast its way through almost anyone who doesn't resist it. Unfortunately, Grass isn't the best offensive type, so this is where the other moves come to the rescue. Focus Blast provides a high-power (albeit inaccurate) tool for hitting the likes of Registeel and Chansey, while Hidden Power Ice strikes Flying-types (specifically Altaria) and fellow Grass-types (specifically Venusaur) who are keen to switch in on Sceptile. The last slot presents a choice of Energy Ball or Dragon Pulse, two moves that are best suited for late-game sweeping. Energy Ball provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move when Leaf Storm isn't needed, whereas Dragon Pulse offers superior type coverage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Specs Sceptile is a top-tier revenge killer, netting many OHKOs with Leaf Storm alone. The following calculations demonstrate the power of Sceptile's Leaf Storm:</p>
<h3>Damage Calculations</h3>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Uxie - 99.4% - 117.2% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Swellow - 98.4% - 116.9% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Spiritomb - 99.7% - 117.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Houndoom - 91.4% - 107.6% (OHKO with Stealth Rock)</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 100 SpD Clefable - 99.9% - 118%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 136 SpD Steelix - 90.4% - 106.2%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Milotic - 103.3% - 120.6%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Torterra - 105.1% - 124.4%</li>
<li>Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Mismagius - 86.5% - 100.9%</li>
</ul>
<p>This variant of Sceptile will be switching out very often, due to the Special Attack drops from his primary move, Leaf Storm. Thus, Rapid Spin support is desirable to keep Sceptile healthy in the long run. Good candidates for this job are Blastoise, who can scare away the Fire-types Sceptile despises, and Claydol, who takes care of both Fire- and Steel-types simultaneously with its STAB Earth Power. Claydol especially serves as a good partner to Sceptile, because it can not only spin away entry hazards, but also lay down hazards of its own to aid Sceptile. Arcanine and Blaziken are both excellent partners to this Sceptile, as they have wallbreaking potential and can easily eliminate special walls such as Chansey (as well as the quintessential Grass-type wall, Tangrowth) that try to block Sceptile. Fire-types also have great synergy with Sceptile, as they resist many of Sceptile's weaknesses (such as Bug, Fire, and Ice), whereas Sceptile himself defensively complements Fire-types (resisting Water and Ground). Dugtrio's useful Arena Trap ability allows him to comfortably dispose of Registeel and Chansey with STAB Earthquake, making him an ideal partner for Sceptile.</p>
<p>The EVs on this set are self-explanatory - maximize Speed and Special Attack to fully utilize Sceptile's potential.</p>
[SET]
name: UU SubSeed
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Energy Ball / Leaf Storm
move 4: Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
ivs: 7 HP / 30 Atk / 30 Def
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>With the advent of DPP, Sceptile's ADV title of the fastest SubSeed user in the game was usurped by Shaymin-S. In the UU tier, however, Sceptile finally has time to shine. Sceptile boasts numerous advantages over other common UU SubSeeders, such as Tangrowth and the ubiquitous Venusaur. Most notably, Sceptile possesses a magnificent base 120 Speed, which lets him outpace the entire UU metagame (apart from Swellow and Electrode). Sceptile's ability, Overgrow, works perfectly with the Substitute, allowing Sceptile to launch more powerful STAB Grass attacks if he ends up Substituting down to low health. He also has a respectable base 105 Special Attack to wear opponents down faster.</p>
<p>The tried-and-true strategy of SubSeeding is nothing new to Sceptile, having previously been Sceptile's flagship set in ADV. Switch Sceptile in on something he scares away (such as Milotic or Rhyperior), throw up a Substitute, and strike the switch-in with Leech Seed. From here, Sceptile's prodigious Speed allows him to create an near-infinite string of Substitutes to weather the opponent's assault while simultaneously draining their health every turn. Sceptile can speed up the process by attacking with Energy Ball and Hidden Power Ice. Leaf Storm is a viable alternative to Energy Ball, because Substitute often brings Sceptile under 1/3 of his health (thus activating Overgrow). A STAB Overgrow Leaf Storm is tremendously strong, and can dent many of Sceptile's counters. However, the harsh drop in Special Attack hurts Sceptile's attacking prowess.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>SubSeed is a strategy notorious for causing switches, so SubSeed Sceptile is best paired up with Stealth Rock and a Spiker to rack up damage even faster. Sceptile does have the misfortune of being walled easily by bulkier Fire-types, such as Magmortar and Arcanine. Therefore, it is a good idea to use Sceptile in tandem with a bulky Water-type, like Milotic or Slowbro. They provide extra insurance against Fire- and Steel-types, can Ice Beam Grass-types and Altaria, and can pave the way for Sceptile to SubSeed unhindered.</p>
<p>One of the most common strategies in UU is to use a so-called Fire + Water + Grass core, which possesses excellent synergy. To complete the trinity, a strong Fire-type that can cover up Sceptile's weaknesses can be used. Arcanine and Blaziken are good choices, as they provide the firepower needed to muscle their way through SubSeed Sceptile’s counters while trashing any overeager Grass-types who can withstand Sceptile's Hidden Power Ice. This set's greatest nemeses, however, are Flying-types. They either outrun or are bulky enough to dispatch him, and unfortunately, their STAB moves can trump Sceptile easily. To take care of these threats, you can use Sceptile in concert with Rhyperior, who provides the perfect answer to these problems. Rhyperior solidly walls Flying-types such as Swellow and Altaria and has a powerful STAB Earthquake to dispose of annoying Steel-types. Dugtrio is also a satisfactory answer to Steel-types.</p>
<p>To fully reap the benefits of Sceptile's great Speed and Special Attack, both stats should be maximized. If one wants Sceptile's Substitutes to have more survivability, EVs can be allocated from Special Attack to HP. Sceptile should preferably invest at least 196 EVs into Special Attack, which allows him to 2HKO variants of Venusaur (with Hidden Power Ice) that do not invest in Special Defense. The IVs allow Sceptile to maximize Hidden Power Ice's strength, as well as providing a Leftovers number. If the need arises, Sceptile can Substitute five times in a row using the specified IVs. Note that the specified IVs should only be used if Sceptile is not running any HP EVs.</p>
[SET]
name: UU Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Earthquake / X-Scissor
move 4: Rock Slide / Double-Edge
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
ability: Overgrow
nature: Jolly
evs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Sceptile is traditionally seen as a specially-based Pokémon because his base 105 Special Attack often overshadows his middling base 85 Attack. However, Swords Dance, the transition of Leaf Blade becoming physical, and a good physical movepool all work to make Sceptile a viable physical attacker. This set is simple - use Swords Dance to boost Sceptile's Attack to an impressive 538, then attack with the remainder of Sceptile's moves. Leaf Blade was pumped up to 90 Base Power during the D/P transition. Its decent power and high critical hit rate make it a solid STAB move for Sceptile and a must on any physical set. Earthquake provides great neutral coverage and allows Sceptile to hit Registeel and Poison-types. X-Scissor can be used over Earthquake, allowing Sceptile a way to dispose of Tangrowth and Leafeon. Rock Slide grants Sceptile universal type coverage in UU, while also taking care of otherwise dangerous threats such as Moltres and Altaria. Double-Edge is a viable alternative to Rock Slide, providing neutral coverage against the likes of Venusaur and Moltres.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Swords Dance Sceptile, like the SubSeed variant, dislikes Flying-types, who can come in, outspeed/wall him, and OHKO with their STAB moves. Therefore, this particular Sceptile is best used in conjunction with sturdy Steel- or Rock-types, such as Steelix or Rhyperior, who can eliminate these threats. Rhyperior, again, serves as an especially great partner to Swords Dance Sceptile; Rhyperior and Sceptile have great defensive synergy. Weezing is the biggest threat to any physical Sceptile, walling him with superior Defense and burning him with Will-O-Wisp or KOing with Sludge Bomb. Houndoom is an excellent way to eliminate Weezing, as he can come in on a predicted Will-O-Wisp, which will activate the hellhound's Flash Fire. From here, Houndoom's STAB Fire moves can easily take care of Weezing.</p>
[SET]
name: UU MixTile
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Leaf Blade / Rock Slide
move 4: Earthquake / Low Kick
item: Life Orb
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty
evs: 252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>As mentioned before, Sceptile has good physical and special attacking stats. Additionally, many of his moves became physical during the D/P transition, allowing for both of his potent attacking stats to be utilized. This paves the way for him to become an effective mixed sweeper in the UU environment. This particular Sceptile is capable of destroying stall and does a very good job in taking out the premier walls in UU. Leaf Storm is Sceptile's primary method of attacking, scoring massive damage against the likes of Milotic and Rhyperior. Hidden Power Ice provides Sceptile with a valuable tool for hitting the ever-present Venusaur. The remaining two physical moves should preferably be used in complementary pairs. The advantages and disadvantages of each pair are listed below:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Earthquake</b> - This combination allows Sceptile to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake) and 2HKO Chansey (with Leaf Blade). Leaf Blade also provides Sceptile with a reliable STAB move. However, these two attacks leave Sceptile helpless against Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Leaf Blade / Low Kick</b> - Low Kick grants Sceptile a valuable 2HKO on Registeel, while Leaf Blade, as mentioned before, cleanly 2HKOes Chansey. Yet, Sceptile sacrifices coverage on Arcanine and Moltres.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Low Kick</b> - Once again, Low Kick 2HKOes Registeel. Rock Slide lets Sceptile secure an OHKO on Moltres, but leaves him susceptible to bulky Arcanine.</li>
<li><b>Rock Slide / Earthquake</b> - This combination gives Sceptile the best coverage, allowing him to 3HKO Registeel (with Earthquake), 2HKO bulky Arcanine (with Earthquake), and OHKO Moltres (with Rock Slide). However, it leaves Sceptile without a reliable STAB move.</li>
</ul>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>In terms of pure attack power, Sceptile is inferior to other UU mixed sweepers, such as Blaziken and Magmortar. What gives mixed Sceptile viability is the sheer surprise factor. While he serves as an excellent stallbreaker, mixed Sceptile is best used as a late-game sweeper due to the fact that he has much higher Speed than the aforementioned Pokémon. Mixed Sceptile benefits greatly from entry hazard support, which makes his sweep easier. Unlike the SubSeed set, bulky Water support is not as necessary because mixed Sceptile has the ability to outspeed and KO most Fire-types with Earthquake or Rock Slide. However, it does not hurt to have one in reserve.</p>
[Team Options]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>While the Choice Specs set packs a huge amount of power, it is susceptible to Fire-types switching in on Leaf Storm. Sceptile has no reliable way of damaging Fire-types aside from Focus Blast (which is rather risky) or resorting to obscure and otherwise useless Hidden Powers. So, one of the best aids to Choice Specs Sceptile - and any Sceptile set in general - is a bulky Water. A prime example of a bulky Water is Milotic (among others like Slowbro and Azumarill). Milotic has great defenses, allowing her to easily deal with the common Fire-type mixed sweepers that are such a nuisance to Sceptile. Ideally, a Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic would serve as the best partner to Sceptile. If there's one status Sceptile really hates, it's paralysis, which nullifies his Speed. A Rest + Sleep Talk Milotic can absorb status for your team as well as effectively support Sceptile with her STAB Surf, which can easily dispatch of any irksome Fire-types. Adding a Fire-type to your team completes the common Fire + Water + Grass core strategy; Blaziken and Arcanine are recommended because they can dismantle walls easily, allowing Sceptile free rein.</p>
<p>Rhyperior is one of the best partners Sceptile can have, especially to SubSeed and Swords Dance variants. Sceptile's greatest asset is his blistering Speed, so anything that outspeeds him is a real pain in the neck. Unluckily for Sceptile, one of the two Pokémon that outspeeds him is a counter - Swellow. To make matters worse, because Swellow is a prominent late-game sweeper, he can potentially prevent Sceptile from pulling off a late-game sweep of his own. To eliminate Swellow, Rhyperior serves as the perfect answer. Rhyperior's typing allows him to laugh at any attacks Swellow throws at him. Additionally, Rhyperior can take care of Steel-types, who can hinder special Sceptile lacking Focus Blast. Dugtrio is a also a very efficient partner, as his useful Arena Trap ability allows him to trap and take down Steel-types with a STAB Earthquake.</p>
<p>Because Sceptile is normally seen as a sweeper, entry hazard support is greatly needed to increase the chances of Sceptile pulling off a successful sweep. Ideally, the entry hazard layer should be a Pokémon that also helps Sceptile play to his strengths. An example of a Pokémon that fills these roles is Claydol. Claydol's STAB Earth Power gets super effective hits on Fire- and Steel-types, and it can Rapid Spin away entry hazards to make sure the Choice Specs variant can survive longer, while simultaneously laying down hazards of its own. It can also set up Reflect and Light Screen to ease taking hits for your entire team, gets access to Ice Beam to check Altaria and Psychic to check Weezing, and can round things off with a bang (Explosion) when it's done.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Sceptile can abuse Overgrow, his sky-high Speed stat, and his ability to force switches by running a SubLiechi set. The premise of the set is to Substitute on something Sceptile scares away, and then use Swords Dance. Then, continue to Substitute, which will forcibly activate the Liechi Berry. From here, Sceptile has an astronomically powered +3 STAB Overgrow Leaf Blade at his disposal. This enormously powerful attack, coupled with Sceptile's prodigious Speed, make a SubLiechi set very dangerous. However, this set is somewhat hard to set up, and priority users have a field day with it.</p>
<p>Another attractive (albeit unreliable) option that Sceptile has at his disposal is the possibility of running an Endeavor set. After surviving a fatal blow (via Focus Sash or Endure), Sceptile can use Endeavor to lower his opponent's HP to 1, as long as the target in question is not Ghost-type. More importantly, however, Sceptile's Overgrow ability activates, powering up his already powerful Leaf Storm. Even better, Sceptile can use Quick Attack to dispose of Endeavor-weakened opponents. However, the one thing restricting the viability of this set is the abundance of priority users in UU, which nullifies the purpose of this set completely.</p>
<p>Sceptile has access to Pursuit, Crunch, and Night Slash, three Dark moves that can work on the physical sets. However, their type coverage is unremarkable. In the healing department, besides Leech Seed, he receives Synthesis and Giga Drain. In terms of an alternative STAB move, Grass Knot is always an option, but generally should not be used unless one is planning to use Sceptile in the OU environment. Sceptile can use Counter in conjunction with Focus Sash to produce some interesting but generally unreliable results. Screech is an interesting option but is generally overshadowed by Swords Dance unless Sceptile is trying to force switches. Sceptile receives ThunderPunch, but not Ice Punch to batter Dragons.</p>
<p>Sceptile can throw together a Choice Band set, but Swords Dance packs more power and is generally more reliable. He can also try to pull a Breloom with Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch, and a filler, but doesn't get STAB or the power that Breloom has. Still, the set has a surprise factor working in its favor. Additionally, Sceptile learns the Sunny Day + SolarBeam combo, but is too frail to pull it off successfully.</p>
[Counters]
<h4>UU</h4>
<p>Defensively, Weezing is arguably the best Sceptile counter around; he resists Grass, Ground, and Fighting (the most common attack combination Sceptile uses) and can burn physical variants as well as dispatch of any variant with Flamethrower or Sludge Bomb. Sceptile is also prone to being revenge killed by Scarfed Pokémon, particularly the likes of Moltres and Typhlosion. Registeel is also a fairly reliable counter to Sceptile lacking Focus Blast or Earthquake. Chansey sufficiently walls any specially based set well; a Specs Focus Blast can only muster a 3HKO (37.29% - 43.99%). Chansey must be wary of the mixed sweeper, though - his prime objective is to lure Chansey out and then strike her with physical attacks. Venusaur is also a good check to Sceptile, as he can freely switch in on any of Sceptile's Grass-type attacks (watch out for Hidden Power Ice, though).</p>
<p>Flying-types, as mentioned before, are Sceptile's Achilles heel. Swellow is a dangerous late-game threat that can outspeed Sceptile and OHKO him with Brave Bird. However, due to his frailty, he must stay on his toes and not switch in carelessly. Altaria is defensively bulky and can take on pretty much any Sceptile set without fear of retribution unless Sceptile is running Hidden Power Ice. Moltres sports a quad-resistance to Grass and can take care of any Sceptile lacking Rock Slide or Hidden Power Rock.</p>
Vast majority of these were subjective/prose changes, which I can explain if needed.
GP Check 2/2
A few content concerns:
Small issue with the damage calculations:
What is the 136 SpD in reference to? Most Steelix run max HP / max SpD (+SpD nature). The calculation should probably reflect this.
Under the SubSeed set, it says that Flying-types are this set's greatest nemeses because they "outrun or are bulky enough to dispatch" Sceptile. which I disagree with. Scyther has to take an HP Ice before U-turning, Altaria is heavily damaged by HP Ice, and Moltres vs. Sceptile is a stallwar that Sceptile will usually win, barring abnormal circumstances. The only Flying-type Sceptile should generally have a problem with is Swellow. Furthermore, on the Swords Dance set, Sceptile should not be walled by any Flying-type - only outrun by Swellow (and Scarf Moltres, I guess). These parts should be revised to be more accurate.
Mention Clefable as a hard counter to the SubSeed set.
I don't understand the last comment on the second-to-last paragraph of OC.
Muchas gracias, Eo. ^_^
Implemented all of your suggestions except one:
As for the damage calc, that was an outdated spread that I missed while updating. Changed it to 252 / 252 +SpD Steelix. Will touch up comments about Flying-types and mention Clefable as a counter. Thanks again!
Implemented all of your suggestions except one:
Here, I think that Shaymin-S being Uber is an integral part of the sentence, especially since I mention Sceptile as being the "fastest non-Uber SubSeeder" several times in the analysis. Also, SubSeed Sceptile is also quite viable in OU, so limiting to UU doesn't make sense to me.
As for the damage calc, that was an outdated spread that I missed while updating. Changed it to 252 / 252 +SpD Steelix. Will touch up comments about Flying-types and mention Clefable as a counter. Thanks again!
The reason I changed that was because it's saying that the banning of Shaymin-S let Sceptile show its full potential; however, it didn't really influence it since Shaymin-S was never UU. If anything, it was the BL/UU merge that helped.
Generally sets are listed in order of effectiveness, or so it seems, and SpecsTile is certainly not his most effective set especially with Venusaur and Registeel being used as much as they are. With that said I would say that SubSeed is arguably his best set at the moment as the Substitute allows him to scout, therefore eases prediction, and thus allows him to become a much more self-sufficient team member rather than heavily relying on teammates to cover your gaping weaknesses.
@Eo - Although Shaymin-S was never UU, Shaymin-S's presence discouraged people from using SubSeed Sceptile in OU. Sceptile already has an entire OU analysis, so it's quite viable in OU as well. At any rate, it's a fairly unimportant introductory sentence, I only wrote it to give some flavor and background information.
Specs Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Registeel - 53.3% - 63.2% (high chance to 2HKO, always 2HKOes without Leftovers)
As you can see, neither Venusaur nor Registeel is going to enjoy switching into HP Ice or Focus Blast, respectively. Specs has always been one of Sceptile strongest options. According to Doug's June 2010 stats, 34.1% of Sceptile carry Choice Specs. Leftovers, the second-most common item, is held by 28%. While the difference isn't too wide, the fact remains that Choice Specs is Sceptile's most common held item. Like you said, however, SubSeed is also an effective and popular set. In terms of "effectiveness," I think the sets are equally matched. However, one of them has to be listed first. I'm going with Specs simply because it's more common than Leftovers, which implies SubSeed.
Specs HP Ice vs. 0 SpD Venusaur - 65.8% - 77.7% (clean 2HKO)
Specs Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Registeel - 53.3% - 63.2% (high chance to 2HKO, always 2HKOes without Leftovers)
As you can see, neither Venusaur nor Registeel is going to enjoy switching into HP Ice or Focus Blast, respectively. Specs has always been one of Sceptile strongest options. According to Doug's June 2010 stats, 34.1% of Sceptile carry Choice Specs. Leftovers, the second-most common item, is held by 28%. While the difference isn't too wide, the fact remains that Choice Specs is Sceptile's most common held item. Like you said, however, SubSeed is also an effective and popular set. In terms of "effectiveness," I think the sets are equally matched. However, one of them has to be listed first. I'm going with Specs simply because it's more common than Leftovers, which implies SubSeed.
i also think the skymin mention should be removed since subseed sceptile is not used in ou and it doesn't/didn't compete directly with skymin for an ou team slot. but if you want to keep it that's your choice as the writer as it's not WRONG per se, so whatever.
the subseed set should definitely be above the specs set though; it easily fits onto a team without the need for too much offensive/defensive support, and specs/leftovers were also basically equal in july stats. also i just think its a better set overall heh
will upload after this minor stuff is figured out?
the subseed set should definitely be above the specs set though; it easily fits onto a team without the need for too much offensive/defensive support, and specs/leftovers were also basically equal in july stats. also i just think its a better set overall heh
will upload after this minor stuff is figured out?
right, I've put SubSeed before Specs.
i'll keep the Shaymin-S mention, though, because SubSeed Sceptile may not be used much in OU, but it's still viable. sm64's OU analysis for Sceptile even lists SubSeed as a set, before the LO sweeper that phil repped so much. anyways. i don't think it's a very important sentence, and people are going to focus more on the rest.
i'll keep the Shaymin-S mention, though, because SubSeed Sceptile may not be used much in OU, but it's still viable. sm64's OU analysis for Sceptile even lists SubSeed as a set, before the LO sweeper that phil repped so much. anyways. i don't think it's a very important sentence, and people are going to focus more on the rest.
Draco Zephyr I'd just go over these damage calcs once again, because I had a quick glance and saw that you had Sceptile doing more damage to max HP/min HP Uxie than max HP/max SpD Steelix, when max HP/max SpD+ Steelix actually has the same HP and less SpD than max/none Uxie.
Anyway, I did them all again really quickly and this is what I got:
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Uxie: 66.4 - 78.2%
Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Swellow: 97.7 - 115.3%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Spiritomb: 66.4 - 78.3%
Leaf Storm vs. min HP / min SpD Houndoom: 60.8 - 71.8%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / 100 SpD Clefable: 66.5 - 78.7%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Steelix: 78.0 - 92.1%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Milotic: 92.9 - 109.7%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / min SpD Torterra: 85.8 - 101.0%
Leaf Storm vs. max HP / max SpD Mismagius: 63.3 - 75.0%
All of them seem to be a little off, with the bolded ones being significantly off and the red ones seem like you included an Overgrow boost into the calcs as well. I'd do them once again just to check, and then include the correct damage calcs in the analysis. I mean I know SpecsTile is good, but I had a little double take moment when I saw it was OHKOing Clefable and bulky Mismagius...
New Calculations:
That was a really good catch, LR. It was entirely my fault - while updating the calcs, I incorporated an Overgrow boost into them, which explains why there were so many OHKOs, most of which are now 2HKOs. I've also tweaked some of the EV spreads - Milotic's is now the "Bulky Water" spread from the analysis, and Milotic tends to focus more on Defense rather than Special Defense, and 252 HP / 252 SpD is quite rare. I included two calcs for Mismagius - the the NP set (4 HP / 0 SpD) and FlareBlitz's Stallbreaker set (252 HP / 0 SpD), which is going to replace the Bulky Ghost set currently on-site. Torterra's EV spread is now the "Tank" set from the analysis (212 HP / 0 SpD). The Spiritomb calc is bolded because I'm getting a significantly higher damage output (91.7% - 108.3%) than your calc (66.4% - 78.3%). I ran the calc against 244 HP / 0 SpD, while you did it against 252 HP / 0 SpD, but that shouldn't make a ~20% difference. I've triple-checked that one, but I keep getting the same result (no Overgrow). Apart from that one calc, however, I'm getting the same numbers you did. Thanks!
That was a really good catch, LR. It was entirely my fault - while updating the calcs, I incorporated an Overgrow boost into them, which explains why there were so many OHKOs, most of which are now 2HKOs. I've also tweaked some of the EV spreads - Milotic's is now the "Bulky Water" spread from the analysis, and Milotic tends to focus more on Defense rather than Special Defense, and 252 HP / 252 SpD is quite rare. I included two calcs for Mismagius - the the NP set (4 HP / 0 SpD) and FlareBlitz's Stallbreaker set (252 HP / 0 SpD), which is going to replace the Bulky Ghost set currently on-site. Torterra's EV spread is now the "Tank" set from the analysis (212 HP / 0 SpD). The Spiritomb calc is bolded because I'm getting a significantly higher damage output (91.7% - 108.3%) than your calc (66.4% - 78.3%). I ran the calc against 244 HP / 0 SpD, while you did it against 252 HP / 0 SpD, but that shouldn't make a ~20% difference. I've triple-checked that one, but I keep getting the same result (no Overgrow). Apart from that one calc, however, I'm getting the same numbers you did. Thanks!
Ah yeah in your original calcs you had it against max/max Spiritomb, which is what I did the calc against as well but quoted it as max/min. Your new calcs seem to work :) and well done for still showcasing Sceptile's offensive prowess with your EV spread fiddling haha :P.