SV OU Screens Balance

[StarryNight2255]

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I really wanted to make use of ceruledge and deoxys-speed on a team and figured screens was the best way to go about it.

Ceruledge @ Life Orb
Ability: Weak Armor
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bitter Blade
- Poltergeist
- Shadow Sneak

This is a fairly standard ceruledge sweeper build. I chose shadow sneak for needed priority and with the added bulk from screens endure isn't particularly useful especially since ceruledge usually ends up as a mid game cleaner and doesn't need to conserve hp very much especially since it can bitter blade back to full on defensive mons easily. Tera fighting is here to evade KOs from scarf darkrai and kingambit's sucker punch.

Grimmsnarl @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Parting Shot
- Low Kick

I chose grimmsnarl for added bulk and to lure in kingambit for low kick which is difficult for my team to beat without tera. Max attack guarantees a kill on tyranitar as well and parting shot makes pivoting into a sweeper simple. Tera steel helps with rough endgames without screens to get them up against fairy types such as iron valiant or enamorus.

Ogerpon (F) @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Low Kick

Wellspring might be slightly better but I chose regular ogerpon specifically for the immediate power against bulky waters like alomomola that unboosted ceruledge can't 2hko and for it's ability to speed boost with tera in end game situations. It has standard coverage in knock off and low kick for ghosts and kingambit. It also pairs nicely with deoxys being able to quickly u turn after deoxys switches out.

Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Defog
- Roost

I chose ironpress with rocky helmet to beat great tusk 1v1 and deal with opposing setup sweepers namely dragonite. Tera dragon helps with wellspring, cinderace, and to surprise specs iron valiant and scarf enamorus with resistances to thunderbolt and mystical fire.

Clodsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Tera Type: Steel
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic
- Stealth Rock

Clodsire gives some needed special bulk to the team and eases the matchup with raging bolt and offensive fairies. Other than that it's a standard set with stealth rock to free up deoxys's final move slot. Unaware prevents setup and toxic is a backup for when my breakers go down.

Deoxys-Speed @ Eject Pack
Ability: Pressure
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 200 Atk / 252 SpA / 56 Spe
Naive Nature
- Psycho Boost
- Superpower
- Knock Off
- Ice Beam

Finally I have my anti-lead / mixed breaker with dexys. 56 speed evs lets it outspeed almost every mon in the game with the exceptions being meowscarada and enamorus. Eject pack lets me swap out after a strong hit and gives me a lot of easy pivoting into my bulkier mons. Superpower with tera fighting destroys kingambit and offensive treads which usually don't expect it. Knock off is standard coverage that also dehabilitates glowking and other scarfers for the rest of my team to deal with. Finally ice beam gives easy OHKOs on gliscor, landorus-therian, and dragonite which usually don't threaten it.

 

[OatIsHere]

Team seems really intresting but screens is usually used on hyper offense as a result of it being a fast paced playstyle whereas balance is more bulky and focused on longevity than hyper offense. These playstyles kind of clash making your team have a bunch of pokemon that do not last or perform as effectively as they are supposed to. Since you are wanting to use ceruledge and deoxys speed I figured that you would want to make this more of a hyper offense.
As a result, clodsire corviknight and ogerpon teal need to be replaced as these sets really only function on a bulkier playstyle and are not needed due to hyper offense lack of defensive structure, your grimmsnarl, ceruledge and deoxys-speed will die long before your corviknight and clodsire can perform their roles efficiently. This is why we need to replace :corviknight: :clodsire: :ogerpon: to screens abusers to take full advantage of screens. In this case I will replace them with :ogerpon-wellspring: :gholdengo: :iron-valiant:

:SV/ogerpon-wellspring:
Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Ivy Cudgel
- Power Whip
- Play Rough

- This is just a really great screens abuser with great immediate power, good resists to ground and an immunity to water. Swords dance boosted ivy cudgels can nuke pretty much most of the tier with power whip and play rough for super effective coverage against dragons. This takes full advantage of screens which tealpon does not do and thus requires less support to utilize.

:sv/gholdengo:
Gholdengo @ Air Balloon
Ability: Good as Gold
Tera Type: Fighting / Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Shadow Ball
- Make It Rain
- Focus Blast

- Gholdengo is also another good screens abuser, good as gold can block defog which isnt as nessesary but its a nice bonus and its ghost and steel typing alongside air balloon allow it to set up on multiple type attacks freely, Nasty Plot gholdengo is super threatening to bulky teams. Tera fighting there for the extra power boost & dark resist but another defensive tera like water or fairy can work fine.

:SV/iron-valiant:
Iron Valiant @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Electric / Ghost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

- This can help open up or sweep late game. Calm mind iron valiant is a good cleaner with its good typing allowing it to revenge kill kingambit, great tusk and zamazenta and thunderbolt is there to hit moltres and bulky waters like primarina. Tera electric or ghost can be utilized as a power boost but tera steel can also be used for the defensive utility.

Set Changes:
:ceruledge: - I would make this adamant, this gives you a super insane power boost that allows you to ohko pokemon like dragonite through multiscale after tera ghost swords dance boost and the decreased speed doesnt really affect you much in most situations. Would also make this tera ghost as the offensive pressure it can exert is huge and can score several ohkos.

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[noob1877]

screens is usually hyper offense. many of these sets don't really fit on ho so it's probably best to replace them. specifically corv and clod really don't fit. on ho you typically don't need much defensive structure since you are going to be winning games fast. even on screens which is more bulky you can still afford to just run generally bulky mons instead of having a specific defensive core. with that in mind here are some changes.

replace :ogerpon: with :ogerpon-wellspring: :

on this team regular oger, especially with band, doesn't do that much since once you lock into a move you basically have to switch out since the opponent usually has something that can easily take the hit. this wastes your screens turns and is a momentum sink. it also doesn't take advantage of screens at all so there's not much point in using it. this is why oger is usually used on balance teams, where hazards + u-turn + knock + defensive core can wear down its checks over time. you could argue that this team does have all of those but there's a few problems right now if you want to take that approach. mainly that there's no slow pivots which means you can basically never get your offensive guys in safely.

instead, you can use sd oger-w which doesn't really have any of these issues. specifically use sd + trailblaze + ivy cudgel and you can use power whip/horn leech if you want immediate power vs waters, or you can use encore, taunt, sub, or synth. this allows you potential of speed boosting as well so it addresses your issues. also, oger-w is much better against bulky waters since it doesn't let them pivot out with flip turn. this also gives you a better matchup into tusk and treads etc. so you also don't need corv that much.

replace :clodsire: with :glimmora::power-herb: :

clod is what i was kinda talking about earlier, how it doesn't really fit on this structure. clod is basically a mistake to use on ho, especially screens, since it doesn't pressure the opponent at all and wastes your screens turns. meteor beam glimm, meanwhile, pressures the opponent quite a bit especially behind screens, and it also works to get hazards on the field more consistently, whereas clod basically invites the opponent's spinners or hatt or whatever to prevent hazards from going up. you can use a few sets, i would use meteor beam + earth power + stealth rocks + mortal spin. tera ghost to help with spinblocking and tusk.

replace :corviknight: with :zapdos-galar: :

ok this is a bit unorthodox but zapdos-g fits pretty well here. you need help with kingambit, and zapdos-g helps with kingambit. corv is alright against gambit but it just doesn't fit on the team for the same reason i talked about earlier, especially since this corv can't even touch ghost types which a majority of teams have, and kingambit often uses tera ghost in which case corv doesn't beat it anymore. zapdos also keeps the ground immunity which isn't strictly necessary since you would have oger-w but it's still useful, especially against choiced mons. zapdos also punishes opponents trying to defog your screens with defiant. since it's screens you can go bulk up. personally i like to run rest + chesto berry + acrobatics but you could use taunt instead and brave bird or something. you can run a few teras but i like tera electric for zapdos and raging bolt.

also a small change but if you want a tera for ceruledge that isn't ghost, fairy is generally better as a defensive typing. you're dying to gambit iron head either way.

this deo set generally doesn't fit on screens but i kinda like the pivot option that can force your opponent to bring in passive mons that you can take advantage of.

bro oat this is like the 2nd time you responded a minute before me lol