OU Serperior

[OVERVIEW]

Serperior is a powerful setup sweeper in the OU metagame thanks to Contrary, which allows it to repeatedly fire off boosted Leaf Storms without having to worry about the Special Attack drops, instead gaining a free +2 Special Attack boost. Serperior's Speed tier allows it to outspeed fully invested base 110s such as Latios and Gengar. It also notably has access to several useful utility moves such as Glare and Leech Seed. However, Serperior struggles with the prominence of faster threats that can potentially put an end to an attempted sweep, such as Greninja, Tapu Koko, and Scolipede. Its coverage is also extremely lacking, with its only notable special coverage moves being Hidden Power and Dragon Pulse, which means that it can be easily walled. This is further bolstered by its poor unboosted base 75 Special Attack and terrible offensive typing, which leaves it easily taken care of by common threats such as Volcarona, Mega Charizard Y, and Tornadus-T.

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Leech Seed
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leaf Storm is a powerful STAB move that simultaneously boosts Serperior's Special Attack. Hidden Power Fire breaks through bulky Steel-types like Ferrothorn, Celesteela, Mega Scizor, and Jirachi, as well as bulky Grass-types like Amoonguss and Tangrowth. Substitute allows Serperior to set up on more passive Pokemon like defensive Celesteela and Hippowdon and avoid status. Leech Seed gives Serperior the ability to deal chip damage to its common checks and counters such as Heatran and Alolan Marowak and recover HP. It also synergizes well with Substitute, as it allows Serperior to wear down slower threats if it's able to safely get off a Leech Seed by spamming Substitute.

Set Details
========

The given HP EVs allow Serperior to avoid its Substitute being broken by Rotom-W. 252 Speed EVs alongside a Timid nature allow Serperior to capitalize on its excellent Speed tier, giving it the ability to outspeed Pokemon like Kartana and Latios. Leftovers gives Serperior some passive recovery, increasing its longevity.

Usage Tips
========

Try to avoid switching into strong attackers such as Tapu Lele, Garchomp, and Mamoswine, as Serperior's bulk is not great. Status, in particular paralysis and poison, should also be avoided. Attempt to set up Leech Seed on a predicted switch into a check or counter, as many of Serperior's common answers can be beaten if Leech Seed is up by spamming Substitute. Be wary of Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Greninja that naturally outspeed Serperior when attempting to set up and sweep. When your opponent has a bulky Grass-resistant Pokemon on their team, try to avoid wasting Leaf Storm's PP, as Serperior is basically useless without the move. You can take advantage of the fact that your opponent will want to send in a hard counter to Serperior to prevent it from setting up by double switching.

Team Options
========

Stealth Rock setters like Landorus-T, Garchomp, and Dugtrio as well as Spikes setters like Greninja can chip down the opposing team with their hazards, allowing Serperior to pick up more KOs. Rotom-W is a useful partner for its ability to take on Heatran and provide a slow Volt Switch to get Serperior in safely. Heatran itself is also a good teammate for its ability to set Stealth Rock and take on the bulky Steel- and Fire-types that Serperior struggles to break through. Tapu Lele is able to beat Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss while also protecting Serperior from priority moves with its Psychic Terrain. Hoopa-U and Mega Alakazam are also good partners for their ability to beat bulky Poison-types that trouble Serperior. Finally, Psychic-types like Latios as well as Pokemon like Greninja and Magearna appreciate Serperior's ability to wear down Steel-types.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A more offensive set with Normalium Z and Hyper Beam could be used to break through some of Serperior's traditional checks and surprise Pokemon such as Mega Charizard Y, Volcarona, and Tornadus-T. However, the utility provided by SubSeed is generally a lot more useful. Synthesis is an option to give Serperior a more reliable form of recovery, but the combination of Leftovers and Leech Seed is usually enough. A Choice Scarf set can take advantage of Serperior's good Speed tier, and with Glare it can also cripple certain setup sweepers for a teammate, such as Volcarona and Mega Charizard X. However, such a set requires heavy team support to function. Hidden Power Rock beats Mega Charizard Y and Volcarona, but it is otherwise generally inferior to Hidden Power Fire. Hidden Power Ground is also an option to break through one of Serperior's main checks in Heatran, but it misses out on a lot of coverage, and Heatran can already be somewhat beaten with Substitute and Leech Seed. Giga Drain can be used alongside Leaf Storm to allow Serperior to recover its HP once it has fully set up.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-types**: Heatran is one of the biggest threats to Serperior, as it can take even boosted Leaf Storms and OHKO with its strong Fire-type attacks. Mega Charizard X, Alolan Marowak, and Volcarona can also tank Leaf Storms and potentially set up on Serperior.

**Flying-types**: Zapdos, Celesteela, and Skarmory can check Serperior defensively, although the latter two take a considerable amount from Hidden Power Fire. Quick Attack Mega Pinsir can also revenge kill a weakened Serperior.

**Grass-types**: Mega Venusaur, Assault Vest Tangrowth, and Amoonguss are all capable of walling Serperior, though they have to watch out for boosted Hidden Power Fire.

**Faster Pokemon**: Due to Serperior's fairly mediocre bulk, it is prone to being revenge killed by certain faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users such as Tornadus-T, Greninja, Heatran, Gengar, and Garchomp.

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Chansey can repeatedly take boosted Leaf Storms thanks to its high special bulk. Celesteela, Assault Vest Magearna, Alolan Muk, and specially defensive Skarmory can also check Serperior, as they resist Leaf Storm and have a significant amount of special bulk.

**Unaware Clefable**: Clefable with Unaware ignores Special Attack boosts from Leaf Storm and so is able to defensively check Serperior.[/hide][/quote]
 
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- remove all hp ground slashes. subseed can beat heatran since most heatran don't use leftovers and the z-move set should definitely not be using hp ground because the coverage is shit.

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Hyper Beam / Giga Drain
move 4: Glare
item: Normalium Z / Life Orb
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

- normalium z lets you break tangrowth (hp ice bounces off and the rare sludge bomb doesn't do enough), amoonguss with prior damage, and also venusaur with prior damage. z-hyper beam also smokes the zards, volcarona, tapu bulu, and zapdos.
- use giga drain with life orb if you aren't using z-hyper beam. taunt does not do much outside of prevent things from setting up on you (which you have glare for lel) and stopping hazards when clicking leaf storm is often more beneficial and the safer play.
- grassium z in set details i guess
 
Yeah, don't slash HP Ground. I'm not too experienced with Serp so I don't think I'll give this a full check, but I know for sure HP Ground is really sub-par on Serp.
 
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On the offensive set, please don't have 4 slashes on the fourth move. Simply move Dragon Tail to Moves. Also mention Knock Off as well, since it specifically deals with Heatran's Leftovers, Tangrowth's Assault Vest, and Chansey's Eviolite. :]
 
I would put Knock Off in OO. It can make Celesteela easier to wear down in the long run without having to use Subseed. It helps with Chansey and Amoonguss and can gimp Alolan Marowak and let you survive a Fire Punch from it, although most of the time it just dies to Leaf Storm.
 

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Remove Substitute and Dtail from the second set. Dtail completely invalidates Serperior's good speed tier and if you have a free turn, going for an extra Leaf Storm or Glare would almost always be a better option. I Think Taunt is also pretty much useless, save it for OO or at most a mention in the moves section. Normalium Z + Hyper Beam set that Vertex posted should be the offensive set. Latios is pretty much the only reason to run Dpulse and Latios is already not seen too often.

Don't mention Mega Venusaur when talking about HP Fire lol it hits for literally 20% at +2.

Mention good lure Pokemon to use alongside this in teams section. Electrium Latios/Gengar help lure Celesteela and stuff like Rockium Landorus-T is good for stuff like Tangrowth and Celesteela.

Finally, stay away from mentioning obvious stuff like rock setters being good partners. Every team is better with rocks and just about every mon in existence appreciates hazard stackers.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

- Serperior is a powerful setup sweeper in the OU metagame thanks to Contrary, which allows it to repeatedly fire off boosted Leaf Storms without having to worry about the Special Attack drops, instead giving it a free +2 Special Attack boost.
- Speed tier lets it outspeed base 110s.
- Decent utility moves such as Glare, Leech Seed, and Dragon Tail.
- Coverage is extremely lacking; having to choose which Hidden Power to use and being walled by something either way. Therefore it struggles against the same few pokemon no matter what it runs.
- Unboosted base 75 Special Attack is quite poor.
- Terrible offensive typing. Poor Offensive Typing

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Leech Seed
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

- Leaf Storm is the only reason to use Serperior, being a powerful STAB move that simultaneously boosts Serperior's Special Attack.
- Hidden Power Fire breaks through bulky steels like Ferrothorn, Celesteela, Mega Scizor, Mega Metagross, and Jirachi, as well as bulky grasses like Amoonguss, Mega Venusaur (Mega Venasaur shrugs of HP Fire), and Tangrowth.
- Sub allows Serperior to set up on passive mons and avoid status.
- Leech Seed gives Serperior the ability to chip down its common checks and counters and recover HP, and works well in combo Conjunction with Sub.

Set Details
========

- HP EVs allow Serperior to avoid its sub being broken by rotom-w Rotom-W (Always Capitalize).
- Timid + 252 Spe allow Serperior to capitalize on its great Speed tier.
- lefties gives Serperior passive recovery, increasing its longevity.

Usage Tips
========

- avoid directly switching in.
- set up leech seed on a predicted switch into a check/counter, as many of them can be beaten worn down if leech seed is up by spamming sub.
- be wary of pokemon like Tapu koko and Greninja that naturally outspeed Serperior.

Team Options
========

- Tapu Bulu provides grassy terrain, boosting leaf storm and helping to break through shared checks.
- sr Stealth Rock setters like lando-t, Landorus-T Garchomp, and Dugtrio as well as spikes setters like Greninja can chip down the opposing team with their hazards and help Serperior nag more KOs.
- Rotom-w takes on Heatran and provides a slow volt switch to get Serperior in safely.
- heatran sets stealth rock and takes on bulky steels.
- Tapu Lele beats Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss while protecting Serperior from priority.

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Glare / Dragon Pulse
move 4: Glare / Substitute / Taunt / Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers / Life Orb
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
(Capitalize the pokemon's names)

- leaf storm is the only reason to use Serperior.
- hp fire hits pokemon that wall leaf storm, like Mega Venusaur, Tangrowth, celesteela and mega scizor.
- glare cripples faster threats such as tornadus-t and greninja.
- dragon pulse hits dragons that resist leaf storm, such as mega charizard x, salamence and latios, though it is weak.
- substitute allows serperior to capitalize on the numerous switches it forces.
- taunt gives serperior the ability to stallbreak and beat chansey.
- dragon tail is useful with rocks/spikes support to rack up damage.

Set Details
========

- contrary gives seperior +2 special attack from each leaf storm it fires off.
- leftovers allows serperior to passively recover its HP.
- life orb gives serperior some extra power, notably allowing it to 2hko heatran at +6.
- max special attack and speed maximize serperior's wallbreaking capabilities.
- timid allows it to outspeed base 110s such as latios and gengar.

Usage Tips
========

- bring it in via a double switch, slow voltturn VoltTurn or after a teammate has fainted.
- serperior should come in on something like tapu fini or non-scarf keldeo that it can easily ko and get a free boost from leaf storm.
- use this as a late-game sweeper once its checks have been worn down.
- use glare to gain free turns and to slow down pokemon that naturally outspeed and could pose a threat to serperior, such as greninja and mega alakazam.

Team Options
========
(CAPITALIZE NAMES OMG)

- lando-t, garchomp and dugtrio set up stealth rock, and can also beat heatran for serperior.
- rotom-w is a slow pivot which can give serperior setup opportunities, as well as wear down flying-type checks.
- heatran breaks through mega scizor, mega metagross, amoonguss and mega venusaur.
- magnezone traps mega scizor, skarmory, and celesteela, and can beat flying-types for serperior.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

- synthesis gives serperior reliable recovery, although leftovers + leech seed is usually enough.
- hidden power rock beats mega charizard y and volcarona, but is otherwise generally inferior.
- hp ground breaks through one of serperior's main checks in heatran, but misses out on a lot of coverage compared to hp fire.
- giga drain can be used alongside leaf storm to allow serperior to recover its HP once it has fully set up.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-types**: Heatran is one of the biggest threats to Serperior, as it can take even boosted Leaf Storms and OHKO with its strong Fire-type attacks. Mega Charizard X and Volcarona can also wall Leaf Storms and potentially set up on serperior.

**Flying-types**: Zapdos, Celesteela, and Skarmory can check serperior defensively, although the latter two take a fair bit from hp fire. quick attack Mega Pinsir and scarf salamence can revenge kill weakened serperior.

**Grass-types**: Mega Venusaur, Tangrowth and Amoonguss are all capable of walling serperior, though they have to watch out for boosted hp fire.

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Chansey can repeatedly take boosted Leaf Storms thanks to its high special bulk. Celesteela and Ferrothorn Heatran can also check Serperior, as they resist Leaf Storm and have a significant amount of special bulk.
 
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[OVERVIEW]

- Serperior is a powerful setup sweeper in the OU metagame thanks to Contrary, which allows it to repeatedly fire off boosted Leaf Storms without having to worry about the Special Attack drops, instead giving it a free +2 Special Attack boost.
- Speed tier lets it outspeed base 110s.
- Decent utility moves such as Glare, Leech Seed, and Dragon Tail.
- Coverage is extremely lacking; having to choose which Hidden Power to use and being walled by something either way. Therefore it struggles against the same few pokemon no matter what it runs.
- Unboosted base 75 Special Attack is quite poor.
- Terrible offensive typing. Poor Offensive Typing

[SET]
name: SubSeed
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Leech Seed
item: Leftovers
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 56 HP / 200 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

- Leaf Storm is the only reason to use Serperior, being a powerful STAB move that simultaneously boosts Serperior's Special Attack.
- Hidden Power Fire breaks through bulky steels like Ferrothorn, Celesteela, Mega Scizor, Mega Metagross, and Jirachi, as well as bulky grasses like Amoonguss, Mega Venusaur (Mega Venasaur shrugs of HP Fire), and Tangrowth.
- Sub allows Serperior to set up on passive mons and avoid status.
- Leech Seed gives Serperior the ability to chip down its common checks and counters and recover HP, and works well in combo Conjunction with Sub.

Set Details
========

- HP EVs allow Serperior to avoid its sub being broken by rotom-w Rotom-W (Always Capitalize).
- Timid + 252 Spe allow Serperior to capitalize on its great Speed tier.
- lefties gives Serperior passive recovery, increasing its longevity.

Usage Tips
========

- avoid directly switching in.
- set up leech seed on a predicted switch into a check/counter, as many of them can be beaten worn down if leech seed is up by spamming sub.
- be wary of pokemon like Tapu koko and Greninja that naturally outspeed Serperior.

Team Options
========

- Tapu Bulu provides grassy terrain, boosting leaf storm and helping to break through shared checks.
- sr Stealth Rock setters like lando-t, Landorus-T Garchomp, and Dugtrio as well as spikes setters like Greninja can chip down the opposing team with their hazards and help Serperior nag more KOs.
- Rotom-w takes on Heatran and provides a slow volt switch to get Serperior in safely.
- heatran sets stealth rock and takes on bulky steels.
- Tapu Lele beats Mega Venusaur and Amoonguss while protecting Serperior from priority.

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Glare / Dragon Pulse
move 4: Glare / Substitute / Taunt / Dragon Tail
item: Leftovers / Life Orb
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
(Capitalize the pokemon's names)

- leaf storm is the only reason to use Serperior.
- hp fire hits pokemon that wall leaf storm, like Mega Venusaur, Tangrowth, celesteela and mega scizor.
- glare cripples faster threats such as tornadus-t and greninja.
- dragon pulse hits dragons that resist leaf storm, such as mega charizard x, salamence and latios, though it is weak.
- substitute allows serperior to capitalize on the numerous switches it forces.
- taunt gives serperior the ability to stallbreak and beat chansey.
- dragon tail is useful with rocks/spikes support to rack up damage.

Set Details
========

- contrary gives seperior +2 special attack from each leaf storm it fires off.
- leftovers allows serperior to passively recover its HP.
- life orb gives serperior some extra power, notably allowing it to 2hko heatran at +6.
- max special attack and speed maximize serperior's wallbreaking capabilities.
- timid allows it to outspeed base 110s such as latios and gengar.

Usage Tips
========

- bring it in via a double switch, slow voltturn VoltTurn or after a teammate has fainted.
- serperior should come in on something like tapu fini or non-scarf keldeo that it can easily ko and get a free boost from leaf storm.
- use this as a late-game sweeper once its checks have been worn down.
- use glare to gain free turns and to slow down pokemon that naturally outspeed and could pose a threat to serperior, such as greninja and mega alakazam.

Team Options
========
(CAPITALIZE NAMES OMG)

- lando-t, garchomp and dugtrio set up stealth rock, and can also beat heatran for serperior.
- rotom-w is a slow pivot which can give serperior setup opportunities, as well as wear down flying-type checks.
- heatran breaks through mega scizor, mega metagross, amoonguss and mega venusaur.
- magnezone traps mega scizor, skarmory, and celesteela, and can beat flying-types for serperior.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

- synthesis gives serperior reliable recovery, although leftovers + leech seed is usually enough.
- hidden power rock beats mega charizard y and volcarona, but is otherwise generally inferior.
- hp ground breaks through one of serperior's main checks in heatran, but misses out on a lot of coverage compared to hp fire.
- giga drain can be used alongside leaf storm to allow serperior to recover its HP once it has fully set up.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-types**: Heatran is one of the biggest threats to Serperior, as it can take even boosted Leaf Storms and OHKO with its strong Fire-type attacks. Mega Charizard X and Volcarona can also wall Leaf Storms and potentially set up on serperior.

**Flying-types**: Zapdos, Celesteela, and Skarmory can check serperior defensively, although the latter two take a fair bit from hp fire. quick attack Mega Pinsir and scarf salamence can revenge kill weakened serperior.

**Grass-types**: Mega Venusaur, Tangrowth and Amoonguss are all capable of walling serperior, though they have to watch out for boosted hp fire.

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Chansey can repeatedly take boosted Leaf Storms thanks to its high special bulk. Celesteela and Ferrothorn Heatran can also check Serperior, as they resist Leaf Storm and have a significant amount of special bulk.
You aren't supposed to post GP checks until QC is finished and I've updated the title... there's a reason why I haven't gone through and capitalized stuff yet.
 

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Considering this analysis is nothing more but a skeleton and not a write-up (and since you're approved to amcheck IIRC) I really don't care if you have things capitalized or not in the skeleton just so long as it is done in the write-up. That is unless it was like that Gliscor analysis where it was just really bad.
 
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  • Instead of saying "Leaf Storm is the only reason to use Serperior" you should go with general descriptions for the move.
  • Implement Vertex's version of the offensive set. It's much better.

Usage Tips (SubSeed)

This section is a bit light on content. Isn't there anything else you can cover here? Like what to do in situations where your opponent has heavy Grass-type resists (answer: don't waste Leaf Storm PP). You can also mention how Serperior is good for double switching since your opponent will likely hard switch into a check in order to prevent it from setting up.

Team Options (SubSeed)

In the last line, it's worth mentioning Mega Alakazam and Mega Metagross as suitable partners as well, and be sure to point out that Tapu Lele/Zam are offensive checks to Mega Venusaur/Amoongus, and that it can be dangerous to switch into them due to their Poison STAB.
 

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In usage tips especially for substitute variants mention how switching into defog can make serperior very scary as defog will give it an evasion boost. (It can take advantage of Tapu Fini rather well.)
 

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Overview

Little too positive about its sweeping capabilities; while it certainly is neglected on a multitude of builds, it isn't hard to naturally check Serperior in this metagame, and due to the fast offensive threats, like Greninja, that weren't there in ORAS, it doesn't usually get to act as a win condition the same way it did before.

Don't mention Dragon Tail at all in the analysis.

SubSeed

remove Mega Venusaur from HP Fire targets, like you'll be using HP Fire vs it but it doesn't do enough to actually be worth using vs it. Sub should have more mentions of how it works well with Leech Seed, allowing you to wear down slower threats due to spamming sub.

Don't really have any gripes with the EV spread but is that really relevant enough in this meta? Rotom isn't that common and Serperior beats it regardless; maybe there's a better benchmark to hit. I didn't really find anything after looking for a few minutes, so it's fine to keep, but if you happen to think up something better could probably switch to it.

Go a little more in detail about what you want to avoid switching into, ie status, strong attacks, etc

Realistically I don't think Tapu Bulu would be a good teammate; sure boosted Leaf Storms is nice on paper, but the defensive synergy between the two is pretty horrid, opening up really big weaknesses to Fires and Flying types, while also using two Grass types that don't check Greninja. If you have positive experience with these two feel more than free to keep it, but it seems sorta like it's a theorymon core that doesn't have much actual positive benefit.

In Team Options, I would also bring up things that appreciate Steels like Celesteela, Heatran, and Magearna being worn down, such as Psychic-types, some Waters like Greninja (for Celesteela/Magearna), Offensive Magearna, Garchomp, etc.

Offensive

Personally I've found this set to be incredibly lackluster and wouldn't give it anything more than an OO mention, if you or other QC disagree with this it's fine to keep, but I don't think it's a worthwhile thing to use.

If you keep it, I'd put a mention of Nature Power coupled with Tapu Lele. Z-Nature Power in Psychic Terrain lets you OHKO Amoonguss and Toxapex at +2. If you don't keep it give it an OO mention.

Mention the same stuff about wearing down checks for other 'Mons as I brought up in the SubSeed set.

Other Options

Mention Scarf Serperior as an option; it's pretty good speed tier, spammable Leaf Storm if steels could be removed, Glare is really nice to let it suicide Glare things like Volcarona, amongst other things

Checks and Counters

Mention faster Pokemon, ie Scarfers like Nihilego, Heatran, Gengar, Garchomp after being worn down, and stuff like Greninja and Tornadus-T, which you don't mention at all.

Remove Scarf Salamence mention, make sure you specify AV Tangrowth and not regular. Wouldn't really call Ferrothorn a good check to Serperior so I'd support removing that too.

Mention Unaware Clefable pls

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If you keep it, I'd put a mention of Tri Attack coupled with Tapu Lele. Z-Tri Attack in Psychic Terrain lets you OHKO Amoonguss and Toxapex at +2. If you don't keep it give it an OO mention.
Not qc or anything, but pretty sure you mean Nature Power, which changes what move it is based on the terrain (turns into Psychic/Z-Psychic with Psychic Terrain).
 
Finally implemented the check, sorry for taking so long. I've kept the offensive set for now but removed the life orb/giga drain slashes.
 

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You have "Latios struggles with the" instead of Serperior in the overview
 
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DeathByWobbuffet Remove the offensive set, and move it to OO, it's rarely ever used and SubSeed is usually superior in most instances. Once this is done tag me and I'll give you final check.
 

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Leech Seed gives Serperior the ability to deal chip damage to its common checks and counters and recover HP.
Mention some examples. Heatran is pretty big because you can potentially 1v1 it.

**Grass-types**: Mega Venusaur, Assault Vest Tangrowth, and Assault Vest Amoonguss are all capable of walling Serperior, though they have to watch out for boosted Hidden Power Fire.
Just mention Amoonguss. AV is not a set. Clear Smog can cancel out its boosts too. Make sure you mention AV Tangrowth as well.


  • Add Alolan Marowak to Fire-type C&C
  • Add AV Magearna and Alolan Muk to specially bulky Pokemon C&C
QC 3/3
 
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