Or a bulky offensive intimidate Gyrados?
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Or a bulky offensive intimidate Gyrados?
Chansey/Blissey isn't eligible in this year's VGC anyway
Yeah.... I just realized that myself. I feel really silly now. Forget my theory then as it is 100% voided by VGC's rules. How come I never realized Chansey's line wasn't in the Kalos Pokedex?
It depends what you team needs of course, but a rapid spinner/defogger is always needed when you have Kyurem-b on your team. Bulky Pokemon with t-wave can greatly support Kyurem-b clean up late game such as Cress/Celebi or you could even go with Thundurous. Special sweepers are also a great match for kyurem-b such as Mega Amphy
OFC! Why didn't I think of Twavers. Duh. My team was
sash Keldeo, bukly Tentacruel, technician Breloom Scarf Landorus T, Balloon Heatran, Lifeorb Kyurem B
I can definitely add a bulky Twaver like mega amphy.
I do really want to try and pull this off myself (I've invested enough time that it's a matter of pride now XD). I'll give it another day, and if it doesn't work out I might ask for some help xD
Still, it sounds like if I was to horde up a bunch of eggs and trade them all over to you that would be just as much if not more work... I do really appreciate the offer though.
Those won't stop bulky Talonflame :P
I really want to try a team with bulky set-up flame and Mega Gengar for doubles actually. I might work on it when I get home.
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I want to know right now as I am so damn tired of Talonflames everywhere.
What is the BEST Consistent Counter to them in Doubles by VGC format? Anyone who can tell me this is my Hero. So far I've heard Assualt Vest Ryhpherior, but is that in the Kalos and good in Doubles?
Did we say Rotom W already?
Actually I'm very interested on that togepi as well. I don't have many HP pokemon available but have the means to breed ICE/GRASS/FIRE spreads on request.
I imagine it would be good, and it is in the pokedex (you got to ride a bloody rhyhorn in game). Assault best makes it bulky on both fronts, and it has rock slide (I think) which is always great doubles.
Assault vest Tyranitar would be a similar but more popular option, along with banded, scarfed, and Mega-Ttar's. Tyranitar is cool. Tyranitar makes Talonflame very sad with rock slide.
That's no problem.
I could easily get you an Absol spitback, but mine don't have justified :(
Tyranitar is my favorite counter to Talonflame, it does it very effectively and also is a premier Pokémon in the VGC 14 meta.
I'll go with this. I'm tired of the generic Rotom Wash, that's why I wanted a Freeze-Dry Mamowsine. Okay since I know nothing about Ryhperior at all: Nature and IVs and EVs? Moves I have general idea for, but suggestions are most wanted. I don't want to run Tyranitar. I have a nice Set-Up Idea for a first turn right now.
Yes its in the dex http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/searc...olution_position=last&evolution_position=only
I used it in the Beta (Doubles, quite similar) and it tore people apart. Max Sp. Def and Assault Vest combined with a very nasty Rock Slide, and a physical Ground move that doesn't murder your ally (Drill Run). And yes, TTar is very similar / more common / I don't berate it at all. I personally just like Rhyperior. You can also do eviolite lightningrod Rhydon if your team likes it. Rhyperior takes Fighting moves much better than TTar, TTar takes Water/Grass better, etc. Both are good :P
I did 140 HP, 96 Atk, 20 Def, 252 Sp. Def. You can tank a Mega-Lucario's Close Combat and KO it right back. Special bulk is pretty big too, god help those TR Sand teams.
As far as I know, only Yveltal has used HP Steel.
I'd imagine that other Dark and Fighting types might start using it.
Perfect. Now to figure out how to teach it Drill Run. Is it an Egg Move or what? Cause now I have some fun ideas for moves:
Rock Slide/Drill Run/Payback/???? With "??????" being one of these: Hammer Arm, Poison Jab, Reversal or Swords Dance. Anyone have an Opinion on this sort of set-up?
No,just no it is still useless offensively without stab
Also for the person who mentioned Yve HP Steel, Super effective HP steel BP:120
Not very effective Dark pulse 80 this is a big difference
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That's an Assault Vest set, so no Protect / etc.
I did Rock Slide / Drill Run / Megahorn / Metal Burst myself. Metal Burst is odd so if you need Payback / Poison Jab / Hammer Arm / Crunch I'd drop that.
Drill Run is Level up / Heart Scale.
Thanks for the offer. But justified just seemed the better option. I'll keep looking.
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