Six Move Battling XY

Approved by Arcticblast

Let's face it. Having four moves sucks. So why not have 6? Introducing (well, rehashing) Six Move Battling XY.

How do I play this metagame?
You can play it by individually challenging people and selecting, "custom game" as the tier.

How do I give my Pokemon 6 moves?
Say you had a Nidoking with earth power, flamethrower, thunderbolt, and ice beam, but you wanted sludge wave and shadow ball. Go to the import/export button near the teambuilder, and look at your pokemon's text, which should appear like this:

Nidoking (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Earth Power
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

For sludge wave and shadow ball you would add:

- Sludge Wave
- Shadow Ball

below the fourth move.

Banlist:
Standard OU banlist
MAKE SURE TO USE LEGAL MOVES

Please post sets and comment about this tier (i.e. buffs, new checks, etc.).

Have fun people!
 
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So this is playable on Showdown, then? That's pretty cool.

First thing that comes to mind:

Manaphy @ Damp Rock
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball / Psychic
- Rain Dance
- Rest

Simple enough; a +3 Rain-boosted Surf wrecks pretty hard, with other moves for coverage. You can also avoid status with Hydration, and Rest keeps you healthy.

Other good 'mons would include Rotom-W, Venusaur-M, and pretty much anything whose role is to do damage, easing prediction by subbing on the switch.
 
Lots of mons with 4mss can really benefit from this. And some that don't can opt to hit more things super effectively. Here's some possible sets:

Dragonite @ Life Orb/Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant/Jolly Nature
-Dragon Dance
-Roost
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Fire Punch
-Earthquake
-Extreme Speed

Now you can get boosting, recovery, priority, and coverage all on the same set. A bulky spread is an option as well, as is Substitute.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Calm Mind
-Scald
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power [Grass]/[Electric]

CroCune with coverage? And a less chance to call Rest again while asleep? Sounds like fun!

Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def (or whatever AV Conk's spread is)
Adamant Nature
-Drain Punch
-Mach Punch
-Knock Off
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Stone Edge/Rock Tomb/Poison Jab

Now this looks scary. Conk gets his healing and priority, plus all sorts of coverage, plus the inherent difficulty to kill that comes with AV. Dare I say 6mss?
 

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This sounds awesome. Finally, 4MSS is no longer a thing!


Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Ice Punch
- Iron Tail
- Earthquake


Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Defog
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- HP Fire
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt

Yeah, this is probably not good for stall. Still, it can benefit from this a little :


Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Hasty Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Lava Plume
- Roar
- Protect
- Toxic
- Will-O-Wisp / Torment
 
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Pikachuun

the entire waruda machine

Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 188 SDef
Sassy Nature | Calm Nature
- Synthesis
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Earthquake
- Sleep Powder


Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Slack Off
- Scald
- Psyshock

I can see stall becoming a thing :P
 
Great Feedback and sets thus far!

Anyways, time for some gimmicks:

Mew @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
- Swords Dance
- Iron Defense
- Amnesia
- Agility Rock Polish
- Nasty Plot
- Baton Pass

Please remember that this won't ever work in an actual match lol

Or smeargle:

Smeargle @ focus sash
Ability: Own Tempo
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want
- Whatever you want

And Weedle:

Weedle @ Master Ball
Ability: Shield Dust
- Bug Bite
- Electroweb
- Poison Sting
- String Shot

Poor Weedle only gets 4 moves :(
 
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The great thing about this metagame is that you can merge seperate sets, like this :


Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability : Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
- King's Shield
- Shadow Ball
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword / Pursuit
- Substitute
- Toxic
 
Pinsir @ Pinsirite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Def
Jolly nature
-Swords Dance
-Return
-Earthquake
-Quick Attack
-Knock Off
-X-Scissors

lol
 
Gogo Talonbird!


Talonflame @ Kelpsy Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird / Bulk Up
- Natural Gift
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn / Bulk Up
- Acrobatics
- Roost

Kelpsy Berry turns Natural Gift into a 90 BP Fighting-type move, which lets it smack Heatran and TTar SE. Rindo Berry can be used instead to be a Grass-type move for Rotom-W. Acrobatics is there after you use your berry for a better STAB.

252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 292-344 (72.2 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 150-178 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Gogo Talonbird!


Talonflame @ Kelpsy Berry
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird / Bulk Up
- Natural Gift
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn / Bulk Up
- Acrobatics
- Roost

Kelpsy Berry turns Natural Gift into a 90 BP Fighting-type move, which lets it smack Heatran and TTar SE. Rindo Berry can be used instead to be a Grass-type move for Rotom-W. Acrobatics is there after you use your berry for a better STAB.

252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 292-344 (72.2 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift (Kelpsy Berry) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 150-178 (38.8 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Don't you mean liechi berry? What type does kelpsy give
 
I've always felt that Crobat needed 6 moves. Unfortunately, when everyone else has 6 moves to play with, it won't really be as powerful.

Brave Bird/Defog/Roost/Taunt/U-Turn/Super Fang. I don't get how anyone can play Crobat with less than 6 moves. It seems like all of those moves, except maybe Super Fang, are absolutely required

I'm not sure how CroCune would play out. Less chance to pull Rest on a Sleep Talk, but also less chance to pull CM. I may just go 5 moves with CroCune (Ice Beam as the fifth)

Roserade has a nice move pool Double Spikes, Sleep Powder, Leaf Storm, HP Fire, other move of choice. Roserade's kinda funny though. With 4 moves, you wish you had more move slots, but you kinda just live with having only 4 moves. With 6 moves, you STILL wish you had more move slots
 
Togekiss is yet again a big threat, dazzling gleam, aura sphere/roost, nasty plot/heal bell, twave and air slash lol 6mss though.
 
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpDef
Sassy Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Pursuit
- Crunch
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Roar

The utilityyyyyy
 

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Crobat @ Black Sludge
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe (can be utilized)
Jolly
Infiltrator
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Super Fang
- U-turn / Defog
- Brave Bird
- Roost

This is what Crobat has been crying for for YEARS.

Nidoking @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest
Sheer Force
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast

yessssssss
 
Charizard @ Charizardite X
252 Att / 4 def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
Blaze

Dragon Dance
Flare Blitz
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Roost
Swords Dance / WoW

Garchomp @ Life Orb / Rocky Helmet / Lum berry / Yache Berry / Focus Sash
4 HP / 252 Att / 252 Spe
Jolly / Naive
Rough Skin

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Outrage / Dragon Claw
Fire Fang / Fire Blast
Stone Edge
Swords Dance

Thundurus @ life orb
252 SpA / 4 def / 252 Spe
Timid
Prankster

Thunderbolt
HP ice
Nasty Plot
Agility
Taunt / Focus Blast
Thunder Wave
 
Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Bullet Punch
- Crunch
- Ice Punch

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solarbeam
- Roost
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Flare Blitz/Dragon Pulse

Greninja @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Protean
EVs: 88 Atk / 188 SpA / 252 Spe (Invest more in Sp. Atk if running Expert Belt)
Hasty Nature
- Hydro Pump/Waterfall
- U-turn
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Water Shuriken/Shadow Sneak/Hidden Power Fire/HP Grass
- Extrasensory/Grass Knot

Hawlucha @ Sitrus Berry/Liechi Berry/Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Acrobatics
- High Jump Kick
- Rock Slide
- Sky Attack/Flying Press/U-turn/Roost

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin/Dragon Pulse/Toxic
- Water Pulse/Scald/Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse/Flash Cannon/Toxic

And naturally, my offensive mindset can only think of sweepers and wallbreakers. At least I managed to find room for a bulky water lol.
 

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Jaguar360 why the hell did you slash Waterfall with Hydro Pump on Greninja? An Toxic/Dragon Pulse with Rapid Spin on Blastoise?

They should look like this:

Blastoise @ Blastoisinite
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Water Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Extrasensory
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Hidden Power Grass / Fire
- umm.. Spikes?
 
Hawlucha is interesting too - Sky Attack isn't so bad now that it has 6 moveslots.

Hawlucha @ Power Herb
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Substitute / Encore / Rock Slide
- Swords Dance
- Sky Attack
- High Jump Kick
- Acrobatics
- Encore / Roost / Rock Slide

The Lati twins are also interesting.

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Defog
- Psyshock
- Roost
- Healing Wish
- Thunderbolt
 

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