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well im not smart sorry about that>Pokebilities
Their absence is intentional - they're obviously extremely strong
Dragapult @ Choice Scarf/Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Dragon Darts
- Spectral Thief/Poltergeist
- U-turn
- Sucker Punch/Steel Wing/Fire Blast
Dragapult reminds me of how Kyurem-B and Dragonite would get banned in almost every meta where they got good stab outside of their dragon typing in previous gens, and here is no exception. I would honestly recommend a quickban of Dragapult, but that does also seem a bit hasty given how we haven't played the meta yet. But for those that remember all 5 minutes of OU Marshadow, Spectral Thief warps the game similarly to Ditto without the commitment and being one of the few powerful physical ghost-type moves in conjunction with stealing stat boosts on a pokemon who gets stab and has respectable attack, Dragapult can reverse-sweep by virtue of existing, which seems to be more a problem with Spectral Thief than Dragapult, but it still has options like Poltergeist, Shadow Bone and Spirit Shackle to work with, not to mention Dragapult can run a DD set by using the pressure it generates with its incredible speed to set up and possibly instantly win.
With that out of the way;
Both of these guys gaining access to moves to hit their would-be Immunities is very nice. Brownie points to any brave souls using DD Sunsteel Strike Regidrago.
While obvious and unoriginal, Magnezone getting access to a fire type coverage of choice allows it to get back to what it does best; Destroying steel walls for you sweeper to destroy the rest of the opposing team.
Even though V-Create is banned, Pyro Ball isn't, and more importantly it fixes a huge problem with SD Blaziken, survivability. Swapping out Flare Blitz with Pyro Ball not only prevents recoil damage, but it isn't contact, so there's no chip from Rocky Helmet or Iron Barbs/Rough Skin. It's still slow as hell though, but its setup is most likely worth the payoff with Pyro Ball.
I might post some more stuffs later, also I can't help but notice a lot of things not on the banlist like Urshifu-Single-Strike, and Cinderace. Is that intentional, or just not updated?
Just a little change but Stuff Cheeks is essentially a better version of Teatime for Singles use (and has nice synergy with Stored Power).
Synchronoise does not exist in Gen 8, and why would you use it over Photon Geyser? Photon Geyser is weaker technically, but it doesn’t rely on your opponent having part Fighting or part Water, and Photon Geyser will also ignore most abilities. And Keldeo OHKOs Pex and Swole at those respective boosts anyways.gen 5 best
in alphabetical order FOR NO REASON AT ALL!!!
Blue Flare - Incredibly strong Fire move that could serve as a better replacement for Fire Blast. I see more Pokémon preferring to run something else as coverage/using their Sketch move on a better move, but it's a notable addition nonetheless.
Bolt Strike - Same as Blue Flare, except the pool of Physical Electric-type moves is far smaller. Definitely worth a shot since the only other option is... uh... Volt Tackle.
Coil - Really strong set-up move for any mon that'd run Bulk Up normally and has decent coverage already. By slotting Coil into your moveset, the possibility to run stronger but less accurate moves is opened up, such as Stone Edge, Dynamic Punch, Dragon Rush, and even Bolt Strike.
Dragon Tail - I don't see anything running this? But Dragon Tail is quite a useful tool to have due to its phazing properties. Most things already get it due to DTail being a TM move, but it's good to point out nonetheless.
Entrainment - ENTRAINMENT REGIGIGAS!!!!!!
Fiery Dance - The 50% SpA boost is a nice addition to a few mons, but I don't see them using their Sketch on this, especially when there's far better moves out there.
Foul Play - Definitely great on a few Physical walls who struggle to apply much pressure. Toxapex might not be able to easily slot it onto its moveset, but it has the potential to threaten a few targets.
Fusion Bolt / Fusion Flare - Same as Bolt Strike / Blue Flare, but trades less damage for 100% accuracy. Ehh?
Gear Grind - The shaky accuracy is a huge obstacle, but it's one of the stronger Steel-type moves. Steel is not a very coveted coverage type, but it can definitely work on some sets.
Hone Claws - No reason to sketch Coil over Hone Claws.
Hurricane - A really strong move for rain abusers such as Thundurus-Therian and... uh... Politoed? Most Pokémon that would like Hurricane already have it in their moveset, and its 70 accuracy is unreliable for out-of-rain use.
Icicle Crash - Since Glacial Lance was banished, Icicle Crash is the second best thing out there. The lower base power and accuracy make it a strictly inferior replacement for Glacial Lance, but you have to work with what you have.
Inferno - Every single No Guard Pokémon is a physical attacker, but it's better than running Will-o-Wisp. Unless you... have... a better move to sketch. I like Inferno, okay? I think it's cool. Too bad it's as viable as Zap Cannon.
Night Daze - I don't see why not run Fiery Wrath over Night Daze, as Fiery Wrath has more power and accuracy, and the 20% flinch is, in most situations, better than 40% accuracy drops. Sorry, Zoroark...
Psystrike - Directly outclasses Psyshock, making it superior Psychic STAB. There's not much to be said about it.
Quiver Dance - You know what this move does. Also, it's banned.
Sacred Sword - I mean, it's nice for bypassing Defense boosts... but other than that, it's outclassed by stronger moves such as Close Combat. It could be decent as coverage, but in most cases, it's not worth the sketch.
Scald - Most things that appreciate Scald already learn it, since it's a TM move.
Searing Shot - A second alternative to Fusion Flare, this time with a 30% burn chance. If you're running Fusion Flare, it's better to run Searing Shot instead.
Secret Sword - Keldeo is tremendously strong, and it's no surprise that this move would be strong on other users. It's a good substitute for the unreliable Focus Blast, and it's a tiny bit stronger than Aura Sphere. Worth looking out for when switching into a Special sweeper.
Shell Smash - Banned.
Shift Gear - Also banned.
Simple Beam -
Soak - Very gimmicky, but aren't all OMs gimmicky? Anyway, Soak Regieleki.
Stored Power - We all know what this move does. It's got a pretty large distribution, but some setup sweepers definitely enjoy the extra power it provides over Psychic. Volcarona seems like a good abuser of this, as Bug Buzz dispatches Dark-types immune to Stored Power.
Synchronoise - I think Synchronoise is a really silly move. For those who don't know, Synchronoise is a 120 BP, 100 accuracy Psychic-type move. The catch? It only affects the opponent if you share a type. For example, Keldeo can break through Toxapex with Synchronoise as they share the Water type. It's totally gimmicky for sure, but I'll take any and all opportunities to use this move.
Techno Blast - Why would you use Techno Blast + a drive when you can just... use moves that don't take your item slot? I mean, you do you.
V-create - Banned.
Volt Switch - A TM move that most users already learn. If your main goal is exclusively pivoting, there are far better choices such as Parting Shot and U-turn, who aren't blocked by a whole type.
Wild Charge - Run Bolt Strike / Fusion Bolt.
but anyway... making use of a set i mentioned in this big list
Keldeo @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Secret Sword
- Synchronoise
- Scald
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Keldeo Synchronoise vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 374-442 (123 - 145.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Keldeo Synchronoise vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Buzzwole: 562-663 (134.4 - 158.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO (Scald isn't guaranteed)
yyeah
not me going on bulbapedia and not noticing synchronoise got dexited.......... its a sad day for meSynchronoise does not exist in Gen 8
Now that you mention it, Woobat seems pretty strong too with ClangSoul and No Retreat. At +2 Timid, Woobat can outspeed unboosted base 193 Pokemon and base 112 Scarfers (that is assuming both have positive natures, as Neutral Nature Regieleki is slower). Woobat’s bulk and SpA are also just barely behind Swoobat’s too, which at +2 or +4 for Throat Spray won’t matter that much.Wicked Blow has been agreed upon by the council to be too powerful, too splashable, and too centralizing a move to allow to remain in the metagame. Its excellent offensive typing and power combined with the plethora of strong abusers including but not limited to Crawdaunt, Cinderace, and Weavile made it excessively difficult to prepare for or switch into. It also ignored defensive boosts / negative drops through its autocrit mechanic negating a potential form of counterplay.
Wicked Blow and Swoobat have been banned from Sketchmons
The tl;dr is Wicked Blow hits too hard. Ban pls.
Swoobat is a little more complicated. Thanks to Clangorous Soul it is capable of reaching +2/+2/+4/+2/+2 in one turn, turning Stored Power into a 260 Base Power nuke. This is clearly broken, however the question remains whether Clangorous Soul is the broken component. The council has decided that Swoobat is far more broken with this move than any other potential abuser at this point and early stage, and we do not wish to waste time dancing around both Swoobat and this question, therefore we are banning the bat for the time being.
If we reach a point in the metagame where Clangorous Soul has been banned we will raise the question of a Swoobat unban. If No Retreat is also banned we will likely unban it with little ceremony as Swoobat will have lost all viability. Note that these potential bans are, as of now, purely theoretical and do not proclaim the council's intent.
HOWEVER
The council would like your opinion!
Clangorous Soul is losing its most notorious abuser in Swoobat. However there have still been murmurings that it could be too much for the metagame when it is so easy to splash on any Pokemon. Are omniboosters, specially Clangorous Soul, unhealthy or broken?
Extreme Speed is, as it so often is in move based metagames, an extremely integral and powerful move here. Is it broken? Is it excessively centralizing? We would like to hear your opinions.
Cinderace has the ability to gain any STAB move it wants. It's quite probably the most flexible mon in the metagame. Is it broken? Or just very very good?
Urshifu is suddenly the only Wicked Blow user in the Metagame. It's also its same old offensive powerhouse, now with a new move to complement it. Is it broken? Or does this metagame have the tools to handle it?
Please provide us with replays, arguments, and other evidence to back up your arguments!
Enjoy the Sketchmons OMotM!
I think this has better potentialSpeaking of power shell smash may be banned on most mons but mons who normally get it can still use it. Surging Strikes is still legal as well which lead me to creating this set.
BEHOLD
Blastoise @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Shell Smash
- Surging Strikes
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
If this thing sets up, it is likely to do some serious damage to the opponent. Of course you need to be aware of Rocky Helmet so you don't die to it though.
Only Copycat's first turn of Fly is Prankster boosted; the second turn is not Prankster boosted, so it will hit Dark types.Also in that replay, I had to have Extreme Speed because of Copycat. idk if Krookodile would be affected by Fly
The validator might have some bugs , Reshiram and Genesect are not banned.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8sketchmons-1332573630-qwy90rbrjnzi2m1wbjkndjud3fhp2k7pw
This has been fixed, thank you Kris.So apparently, Reshiram is legal to use on Ladder
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8sketchmons-1332575585
Edit: Ok, someone else already posted a replay showing Reshiram.
But imagine being so bad that an LC Pokemon is more of a threat than the 680 BST Uber lmao.
5) Dragapult is VERY strong. It's not unbeatable (as opposed to Cinderace) cause Fairies, Darks, Steels and Sthief users keep it in check but its definitely one of the best mons in the metagame.