Smeargle [4F] - Ubers

[Matthew]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/smeargle

[SET]

name: Belly Pass
move 1: Spore
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Substitute
item: Salac Berry
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>By using this set, Smeargle can do the one thing that Mew, the generally better Baton Passer, cannot do, Baton Pass a +6 Attack boost, thanks to Belly Drum.</p>

<p>The set itself is very simple, but very difficult to pull off. The goal is to switch Smeargle in without it taking damage; then, to set up for its Baton Pass. This can be done a few ways, but the easiest is for Wobbuffet to Encore a non-damaging or threatening move. Once Smeargle is switched in, you use Spore to incapacitate one of your opponent’s Pokémon, then set up Substitute and proceed to Belly Drum. After Substituting once and using Belly Drum, the Salac Berry will activate, giving you a +1 Speed boost. Once you have both your Speed and Attack stats raised, you use Baton Pass to a physical Uber Pokémon, usually either Groudon, Rayquaza, or Garchomp.</p>

<p>To have this set work, you’re going to need to get rid of all the priority users and faster Choice Scarf users on your opponents team, usually Scizor or Rayquaza. Scizor can be handled by Dialga, who switches in on a resisted Bullet Punch; it can then hit Scizorwith a super effective Flamethrower or Fire Blast. Rayquaza, on the other hand, is a bit more difficult to handle due to the variety of sets that it can run. If Rayquaza is running a Swords Dance set, then a Choice Scarf Dialga can easily come in on the Swords Dance or on a revenge kill and OHKO Rayquaza with Dragon Pulse. The Dragon Dance set is handled by a Choice Scarf Palkia, who outpaces it, even if it has used Dragon Dance, and OHKOes it with Spacial Rend. The mixed version of Rayquaza has no safe switch in, but many Choice Scarf Pokémon can deal with it easily. Choice Scarf Pokémon are cast aside by Wobbuffet, who can come in and OHKO them with either Counter or Mirror Coat.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Since this set works best when there are no entry hazards on the field, a Pokémon who has Rapid Spin is extremely helpful to Smeargle. Forretress, who is the best Pokémon with Rapid Spin in Ubers, can come in on the plethora of Dragon-type attacks and spin away the entry hazards. It is suggested being careful of the Giratina formes, as they often come in to make your attempt at Rapid Spinning the hazards away completely useless. Taunt Mewtwo turns Giratina into set-up bait, stopping 3 out of the 4 moves that Giratina usually runs. Giratina-O is a different matter; if it is able to get a Substitute up, you can break it with a slower Pokémon, then use a faster Pokémon, like Palkia, to come in for a revenge kill.</p>

<p>Switching Smeargle in without it being harmed is an extremely difficult task, so that is where our friend Wobbuffet comes in. Wobbuffet can come in on a Pokémon such as Blissey, Encore as it uses a status-inflicting move, and then use Safeguard to allow Smeargle to come in scot-free. Smeargle will then be able to switch in with zero threat, and do its job perfectly well.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Smeargle can make use of Rapid Spin, as it isn’t something that most people would expect. Smeargle learns almost every move in the game, but it can only do so much in the Uber tier. Encore can also be used to force out an Calm Mind Kyogre or Giratina, but it has limited uses.</p>

<p>Lunar Dance and Memento can be of some use on Smeargle, helping set up a Pokémon on your team easier, however Cresselia and Latios do the respective job much better than Smeargle can.</p>

[EVs]

<p>As for the EVs, maxing Speed is your first priority; you need to be able to outspeed non-Choice Scarf Pokémon after your +1 Speed boost. The next step is to maximize HP while still having it divisible by 4. The rest of the EVs can be dumped into wherever you want them to be.</p>

[Opinion]

<p>Belly Drum is the only reason to use Smeargle outside of Mew in Ubers; Mew comes with greater bulk and a higher base Speed stat, however, Mew does not get Spore, which is another redeeming aspect of Smeargle.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Unlike Mew, Smeargle isn’t going to have room on its Baton Pass set to be able to use Taunt, so any Pokémon with Roar or Whirlwind will make Smeargle useless. Scizor, Rayquaza, and the Deoxys formes bring issues, as, with priority, they can get around Baton Pass and hit a Smeargle who is at 25% health with a priority move, making sure that the stat boosts will never reach their recipient.</p>

 

[Colonel M]

I'd definitely test anything that has Lunar Dance or Memento for Smeargle. One thing that makes this guy uniqueis he can manipulate many different situations. Lunar Dance restores a sweeper to full condition while Memento makes it easy for a Pokemon such as SD Ray set-up.

 

[Matthew]

I'd definitely test anything that has Lunar Dance or Memento for Smeargle. One thing that makes this guy uniqueis he can manipulate many different situations. Lunar Dance restores a sweeper to full condition while Memento makes it easy for a Pokemon such as SD Ray set-up.

Lunar Dance may be worthwhile, and I will without a doubt test a set using it, but Latios does Memento much better than Smeargle does, due to it's typing, Speed, and STAB.

 

[Colonel M]

Lunar Dance may be worthwhile, and I will without a doubt test a set using it, but Latios does Memento much better than Smeargle does, due to it's typing, Speed, and STAB.

In response, though, Smeargle has some other junk it can learn (Spore, Trick, etc) that could make it worthwhile.

 

[Malfunction]

[Other Options]

<p>Smeargle can make use of Rapid Spin, as it isn’t something most people would expect. Smeargle learns almost every move in the game, but it can only do so much in the Uber tier.</p>

I think you meant something along the lines of "but it can't do much".

[Counters]

<p>Unlike Mew, Smeargle isn’t going to have room on its Baton Pass set to be able to use Taunt, so any Pokémon with Roar or Whirlwind will make Smeargle useless. Scizor, Rayquaza, and the Deoxys formes bring issues as with priority they can get around Baton Pass and hit a Smeargle that is at 25% with a priority move, making sure that the stat will never reach their recipient.</p>

"the stat boosts will never reach their recipient."

Nice write-up, keep it up.

 

[twash]

Encore could be a decent option to buy turns for either Smeargle or for the team. It helps stop defensive Calm Mind Kyogre, Giratina, etc. Smeargle definitely has a decent enough speed stat to use it.

 

[Matthew]

I think you meant something along the lines of "but it can't do much".

"the stat boosts will never reach their recipient."

Nice write-up, keep it up.

Yeah added in your changes, thanks for that Mal

Encore could be a decent option to buy turns for either Smeargle or for the team. It helps stop defensive Calm Mind Kyogre, Giratina, etc. Smeargle definitely has a decent enough speed stat to use it.

Yeah Encore deserves Other Options, you're right. As for the Lunar Dance set it's ok I'm not entirely sold on the set, but it may make it, if not Other Options.

 

[bojangles]

[SET]

name: Belly Pass
move 1: Spore
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Substitute
item: Salac Berry
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spe

<p>By using this set, Smeargle can do the one thing that Mew, the generally better Baton Passer, cannot do, Baton Pass a +6 Attack boost, thanks to Belly Drum.</p>

<p>The set itself is very simple, but very difficult to pull off. The goal is to switch Smeargle in without it taking damage; then, to set up for its Baton Pass. This can be done a few ways, but the easiest is for Wobbuffet to Encore a non-damaging or threatening move. Once Smeargle is switched in, you use Spore to incapacitate one of your opponent’s Pokémon, then set up Substitute and proceed to Belly Drum. (removed beginning of the sentence, it was unnecessary; you don't have to explain how pinch berries work) After Substituting once and using Belly Drum, the Salac Berry will activate, giving you a +1 Speed boost. Once you have both your Speed and Attack stats raised, you use Baton Pass to a physical (strong is understood) Uber Pokémon, usually either Groudon, Rayquaza, or Garchomp.</p>

<p>To have this set work, you’re going to need to get rid of all the priority users (removed ",") and faster Choice Scarf users on your opponents team, usually Scizor or Rayquaza. Scizor can be handled by Dialga, who switches in on a resisted Bullet Punch; it can then hit Scizorwith a super effective Flamethrower or Fire Blast. Rayquaza, on the other hand, is a bit more difficult to handle due to the variety of sets that it can run. If Rayquaza is running a Swords Dance set, then a Choice Scarf Dialga can easily come in on the Swords Dance or on a revenge kill and OHKO Rayquaza with Dragon Pulse. The Dragon Dance set is handled by a Choice Scarf Palkia, who outpaces it, even if it has used Dragon Dance, and OHKOes it with Spacial Rend. The mixed version of Rayquaza has no safe switch in, but many Choice Scarf Pokémon can deal with it easily (passive voice issues). Choice Scarf Pokémon are cast aside by Wobbuffet, who can come in and OHKO them with either Counter or Mirror Coat.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Since this set works best when there are no entry hazards on the field, a Pokémon who has Rapid Spin is extremely helpful to Smeargle. Forretress, who is the best Pokémon with Rapid Spin in Ubers, can come in on the plethora of Dragon-type attacks and spin away the entry hazards (toxic spikes too!). It is suggested being careful of the Giratina formes, as they often come in to make your attempt at Rapid Spinning the hazards away completely useless. Taunt Mewtwo turns Giratina into set-up bait, stopping 3 out of the 4 moves that Giratina usually runs. Giratina-O is a different matter; if it is able to get a Substitute up, you can break it with a slower Pokémon, then use a faster Pokémon, like Palkia, to come in for a revenge kill (removed "is usually the best bet").</p>

<p>Switching Smeargle in without it being harmed is an extremely difficult task, so that is where our friend Wobbuffet comes in. Wobbuffet can come in on a Pokémon such as Blissey, Encore as it uses a status-inflicting move, and then use Safeguard to allow Smeargle to come in scot-free. Smeargle will then be able to switch in with zero threat, and do its job perfectly well.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Smeargle can make use of Rapid Spin, as it isn’t something that most people would expect. Smeargle learns almost every move in the game, but it can only do so much in the Uber tier. Encore can also be used to force out an Calm Mind Kyogre or Giratina, but it has limited uses.</p>

[EVs]

<p>As for the EVs, maxing Speed is your first priority; you need to be able to outspeed non-Choice Scarf Pokémon after your +1 Speed boost. The next step is to maximize HP while still having it divisible by 4. The rest of the EVs can be dumped into wherever you want them to be.</p>

[Opinion]

<p>Belly Drum is the only reason to use Smeargle outside of Mew in Ubers; Mew comes with greater bulk and a higher base Speed stat, however, Mew does not get Spore, which is another redeeming aspect of Smeargle.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Unlike Mew, Smeargle isn’t going to have room on its Baton Pass set to be able to use Taunt, so any Pokémon with Roar or Whirlwind will make Smeargle useless. Scizor, Rayquaza, and the Deoxys formes bring issues, as, with priority, they can get around Baton Pass and hit a Smeargle who is at 25% health with a priority move, making sure that the stat boosts will never reach their recipient.</p>

Nice Gen, comments in parentheses.

 

[Matthew]

Thanks for the grammar check ibo, added in your corrections.

 

[Theorymon]

Custap Berry may also be an option on the BellyPass set. This is to outrun faster Scarfers, or Speed Deoxys that carry Taunt (say they switch in as you use Substitute; after the Spore). Custap will activate on the Belly Drum as they break your Substitute, and allow you to Baton Pass out the next turn without worry about faster Taunts or Attacks.
Keep in mind, this requires your recepient to be fast or carry their own priority to deal with the fast threat, whom may switch out and come back in to revenge kill. Good recepients of a Custap Belly Drum include:

Focus Sash Attack Deoxys, Life Orb Weavile, ScarfChomp, or priority users like Rayquaza and Lucario.

Custap Berry cant be mentioned yet, because its not on Shoddy. additonally, Life Orb Weavile is a terrible Belly Drum receiver due to it easily being defeated by Scizor.

 

[Matthew]

Added Lunar Dance and Memento to Other Options, maybe a grammar check or two and we're a-ok

 

[Fuzznip]

Sure Gen.

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Belly Pass

[SET]

name: Belly Pass
move 1: Spore
move 2: Belly Drum
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Substitute
item: Salac Berry
ability: Own Tempo
nature: Jolly
evs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spe

[Set Comments]

<p>By using this set, Smeargle can do the one thing that Mew, the generally better Baton Passer being the better Baton Passer in general, cannot do, ; Baton Pass a +6 Attack boost, thanks to Belly Drum from the use of Belly Drum.</p>

The original sentence sounded weird, so I tried to fix it up.

<p>The set itself is very simple, but very difficult to pull off. The goal is to switch Smeargle in without letting it taking take damage; . After that then, proceed to set up for its Baton Pass. This can be done in a few ways, but the easiest way is to use Wobbuffet for Wobbuffet to Encoring a non-damaging or threatening move. Once Smeargle is switched in, attempt to use Spore to incapacitate one of your opponent’s Pokémon, then set up Substitute and proceed to Belly Drum. After Substituting once and using Belly Drum, the Salac Berry will activate, and give giving you Smeargle a +1 Speed boost. Once you have both of its your Speed and Attack stats raised, you use Baton Pass to a physical Uber Pokémon, usually either Groudon, Rayquaza, or Garchomp.</p>

<p>To have this set work, you’re going to need to get rid of all the priority users and faster Choice Scarf users on your opponent's team, usually seen as Scizor or Rayquaza (Why not mention a Scarfer? You already say you need to get rid of them, so it's good to have an example of that to, not just priority users.). Scizor can be handled by Dialga, who switches in on a resisted Bullet Punch and it can then hit Scizor_with a super effective Flamethrower or Fire Blast. Rayquaza, on the other hand, is a bit more difficult to handle due to the variety of sets that it can run. If Rayquaza is running a Swords Dance set, then a Choice Scarfed Dialga can easily come in on the Swords Dance or on a revenge kill and OHKO Rayquaza with Dragon Pulse. The Dragon Dance set is handled by a Choice Scarfed Palkia, who outpaces it, (even if it has used Dragon Dance), and OHKOes it with Spacial Rend. The mixed version of Rayquaza has no safe switch-in, but many Choice Scarf Pokémon can deal with it easily. As for dealing with Choice Scarf Pokémon in general, they are cast aside by Wobbuffet, who can come in and OHKO them with either Counter or Mirror Coat.</p>

(Just a few nitpicks with the wording you used. Looks good otherwise.)

Team Options

[Team Options]

<p>Since this set works best when there are no entry hazards on the field, a Pokémon who has Rapid Spin is extremely helpful to Smeargle and your team in general. Forretress, who is the best Pokémon with Rapid Spin in Ubers, can come in on the plethora of Dragon-type attacks and spin away the entry hazards. It is suggested being careful of the Giratina formes, as they often come in to make your attempt at Rapid Spinning the hazards away completely useless. Taunt Mewtwo turns Giratina into set-up bait, stopping 3 out of the 4 moves that Giratina usually runs. Giratina-O is a different matter; if it is able to get a Substitute up, you can break it with a slower Pokémon, then use a faster Pokémon, like Palkia, to come in for a the revenge kill.</p>

<p>Switching Smeargle in without it being harmed is an extremely difficult task, so that is where your friend Wobbuffet comes in (I wouldn't say our. Everything should be directed to the reader). Wobbuffet can come in on a Pokémon such as Blissey, Encore as it uses a status-inflicting move, and then use Safeguard to allow Smeargle to come in scot-free. Smeargle will then be able to switch in with zero threat, and do its job perfectly well in most circumstances. (It can't always do its job perfectly well.)</p>

Other Options

[Other Options]

<p>Smeargle can make use of Rapid Spin, as it isn’t something that most people would expect. Smeargle learns almost every move in the game, but it can only do so much in the Uber tier. Encore can also be used to force out an Calm Mind Kyogre or Giratina, but it has limited uses.</p>

<p>Lunar Dance and Memento can be of some use on Smeargle, helping set up a Pokémon on your team easier; however, Cresselia and Latios do the respective job much better than Smeargle can.</p>

EVs

[EVs]

<p>As for the EVs, maxing Speed is your first priority; you need to be able to outspeed outpace non-Choice Scarf Pokémon after Smeargle's +1 Speed boost. The next step is to maximize HP while still having it divisible by 4. The rest of the EVs can be dumped into wherever you want them to be.</p>

Opinion

[Opinion]

<p>Belly Drum is the only reason to use Smeargle outside of Mew in Ubers. Mew comes with greater bulk and a higher base Speed stat; however, Mew does not get Spore, which is another redeeming aspect of Smeargle.</p>

Counters

[Counters]

<p>Unlike Mew, Smeargle isn’t going to have room on its Baton Pass set to be able to use Taunt, so any Pokémon with Roar or Whirlwind will make Smeargle useless. Scizor, Rayquaza, and the Deoxys formes bring issues, as, with priority, they can get around Baton Pass and hit a Smeargle who is would be at 25% health from Substitute and Belly Drum with a priority move, making sure that the stat boosts will never reach their recipient.</p>

Great work!