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Gotta use the right spelling.
t&b's design for ghorm's idea is p.cool.
Gotta use the right spelling.
t&b's design for ghorm's idea is p.cool.
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CAP 2 Smogon "Create a Pokemon" Part Deux: Art Thread
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I like Dragontamer's idea, but I think holding a weapon is a bit much, especially for a ghost. You mentioned things like Beedrill and Gallade, but their "weapons" are actually part of them. If somehow the sword was smoothly incorporated, it would look good. Otherwise, it'll just be a ghostly Farfetch'd experience.
t&b's looks cool, though for some reason I'm seeing Crogunk's dead uncle. I'd lose the boxing gloves, though, and go with a hand that looks a little bit more evil. Maybe some spikes on the knuckles, and I think having two different hands (one more ghostly, one more destructive for the fighting) wouldn't be a bad move.
Maybe I'll sketch something. I haven't drawn in a while, though...
t&b's looks cool, though for some reason I'm seeing Crogunk's dead uncle. I'd lose the boxing gloves, though, and go with a hand that looks a little bit more evil. Maybe some spikes on the knuckles, and I think having two different hands (one more ghostly, one more destructive for the fighting) wouldn't be a bad move.
Maybe I'll sketch something. I haven't drawn in a while, though...
I can't draw at all, but for anyone trying to do a defensive version, I thought this could work:
It's the Dullahan enemy from Devil May Cry 3. Basically a floating, headless suit of armor, and in this case, carrying a shield. You could also add a sword or spear or whatever to make it more offensive if it turns out Balanced or Offensive. I dunno, just thought he would work for this concept (might be better suited to a Ghost/Steel, though. . .) Ah, well, I'll see if anyone comes up with anything.
It's the Dullahan enemy from Devil May Cry 3. Basically a floating, headless suit of armor, and in this case, carrying a shield. You could also add a sword or spear or whatever to make it more offensive if it turns out Balanced or Offensive. I dunno, just thought he would work for this concept (might be better suited to a Ghost/Steel, though. . .) Ah, well, I'll see if anyone comes up with anything.
I think it should refrain from weilding weapons, remember this is a game aimed at Universal kids, Having hints of weapons yes, but that's just too much imo.
@Teas and Blues, You're variation of Gormeghasts pokemon is topnotch, looks faily balanced poke.
Being a guy that is incapable of producing art from ink but rather from words, I'll give a couple of my suggestions, hopefully someone can pick up on this and work it around.
Thought so. Was just tossing out a random sketch.
Yeah, the problem I see with the fencer is trying to get that in without adding weapons. Swords don't really fit well into the world of Pokemon.
Since we already have Hitmonchan, I think it is fairly important to avoid a boxing theme. Even kick boxing seems a little too close to Hitmonlee.
An Eskrima theme would be somewhat interesting I think (Filipino stick fighting). Going to be brainstorming for ideas.
Idea #2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_(weapon)
Could work them in possibly like how Scyther has em, but it might be too similiar for some.
Since we already have Hitmonchan, I think it is fairly important to avoid a boxing theme. Even kick boxing seems a little too close to Hitmonlee.
An Eskrima theme would be somewhat interesting I think (Filipino stick fighting). Going to be brainstorming for ideas.
Idea #2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_(weapon)
Could work them in possibly like how Scyther has em, but it might be too similiar for some.
Fencing is a style of combat. If a sword cannot do we can stick many items in a fencer's hands and still get the swordmaster feel. Wooden swords are commonly used as practice weapons. One reference has a fencer use A Cane as a Weapon.
Or... we can do it like Beedrill and his spears. Just friggen turn them into his hands :-)
And although I am a Filipino... I've never seen Eskrima in my life >_> Apparently it is really awesome from what I hear.
We could do a cane style item, but I would imagine more people would attribute it to Kendo.
As for using it for his hands, I think it depends on how thin it is. It might sound strange, but I'd imagine a thinner sword would feel more lethal then enlarging it, but then it is no longer a fencing sword. I could be crazy though.
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Speaking of Kendo...
http://www.mississauga-kendo-club.ca/images/yamada_kamae.jpg
That looks fairly ghostly and fighty...
Mutherfuckin Zombie Ballerina >:O but all that also I never thought of Ghost types like that since we you look at them for a type perspective, being immune to Normal and Fighting moves means that they have no physical bodies to begin with but that's me.
i'd like to throw out a few ideas, seeing as i can't draw :P
jiang shi/ kyonshi
yeah, the best pic i could find was on a yu-gi-oh card... but it's basically the east asian vampire. these guys were really popular in cheesy hong-komg martial arts films, and were the first thing i thought of when i read the ghost/fighting typing. i'd like to see a pokemon with a design similar to this (although not so human-like), with the spell tag covering its face.
Mokujin!
yeah, its mokujin, the possesed training dummy from tekken. it would probably be pretty easy to make something 'pokemon-like' using this idea.
Oni
the demon/troll things from japanese folklore. while they're quite human like, i like the celestial robe/belt thing they've got going on (see the first pic), their body positioning, and i think the mask (the second pic) would make it look much less human. you could even try a possesed oni mask :P
jiang shi/ kyonshi
yeah, the best pic i could find was on a yu-gi-oh card... but it's basically the east asian vampire. these guys were really popular in cheesy hong-komg martial arts films, and were the first thing i thought of when i read the ghost/fighting typing. i'd like to see a pokemon with a design similar to this (although not so human-like), with the spell tag covering its face.
Mokujin!
yeah, its mokujin, the possesed training dummy from tekken. it would probably be pretty easy to make something 'pokemon-like' using this idea.
Oni
the demon/troll things from japanese folklore. while they're quite human like, i like the celestial robe/belt thing they've got going on (see the first pic), their body positioning, and i think the mask (the second pic) would make it look much less human. you could even try a possesed oni mask :P
Loving this one :D Looks like it needs Iron Fist as it's ability.I had a go at updating your idea, Gormenghast.
I'm kind of of the opinion that we should stray away from weapons outright. I don't really see the point. Do any Ghost type Pokemon carry Weapons of steel? No. Do any Fighting type? Gallade is the closest it gets. I don't think carrying a Weapon is necesary.
Ahaha, that's what my first design's based on. I have three ideas already sketched, but I have to post them later, as I'm on lunch at work right now. Let's just say my ideas are pretty unique...i'd like to throw out a few ideas, seeing as i can't draw :P
jiang shi/ kyonshi
yeah, the best pic i could find was on a yu-gi-oh card... but it's basically the east asian vampire. these guys were really popular in cheesy hong-kong martial arts films, and were the first thing i thought of when i read the ghost/fighting typing. i'd like to see a pokemon with a design similar to this (although not so human-like), with the spell tag covering its face.
Oh, and there seems to be some awesome designs right now. I especially like this one:
How about this dude from Shaman King (I used to read a few years ago):
Lee Bailong: A kung fu fighting corpse that was resurrected from the dead!
Lee Bailong: A kung fu fighting corpse that was resurrected from the dead!
So I doodles around a little today, and have some fairly rough results. They were done in pen and I didn't really care to go back and redraw. You get the idea from these.
Lawl, enormous. There's an idea of how the mummy could look. Big claws, whoo. Got really lazy on the other hand, but I made a little mistake doing the arm, so he couldn't be dragging it along the ground. Use some imagination on that. Anyway, even though this is more on the badly drawn side, I think a mummy might be the coolest way to go with the design.
Second one was another modification of Gormenghast's idea. I went for claws, though, because I think the boxing gloves shouldn't be for this. The hands are a little bigger than they should be, but meh.
I'm a fan of the claws, btw. Anyone interested can take these starts and run with it.
Lawl, enormous. There's an idea of how the mummy could look. Big claws, whoo. Got really lazy on the other hand, but I made a little mistake doing the arm, so he couldn't be dragging it along the ground. Use some imagination on that. Anyway, even though this is more on the badly drawn side, I think a mummy might be the coolest way to go with the design.
Second one was another modification of Gormenghast's idea. I went for claws, though, because I think the boxing gloves shouldn't be for this. The hands are a little bigger than they should be, but meh.
I'm a fan of the claws, btw. Anyone interested can take these starts and run with it.
I think someone should consider a Zombie Fighter. Perhaps something bulky and powerful like Machamp, but with stitches, maybe 'ghost limbs', or something.
A lot of the ideas so far are 'too cute' for something as badass as Ghost/Fighting could be
A lot of the ideas so far are 'too cute' for something as badass as Ghost/Fighting could be
This kind of talk is what leads to boring, broken pokemon. If it ain't pink and fluffy, I'm okay with it.
Hey, actually...
I'm an awful artist, but that didn't stop me from throwing together a concept image of a Kendo based Ghost. Note that the retarded pipe he is holding is supposed to be a stick from a dead tree, but the skill to draw those well eludes me. I also tried to reproduce the face mask through chains, I had no idea how else to try to get that into the design otherwise.
This might be easier if we had a simple moveset to go on. I mean, we all think of it as a duel sword weilding thing, then giving it a punch based move set wuld be odd. So just throwing my opinnion out there
I'm an awful artist, but that didn't stop me from throwing together a concept image of a Kendo based Ghost. Note that the retarded pipe he is holding is supposed to be a stick from a dead tree, but the skill to draw those well eludes me. I also tried to reproduce the face mask through chains, I had no idea how else to try to get that into the design otherwise.
Now THAT is awesome! That thing has the look saying "Come near me, and imma bust yo' ass!" :P
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