spikes shuffle team

reis17

forretress
relazed
leftovers
252 HP / 162 Atk / 96 Def

spikes
eq
rapid spin
explosion


starter set up spikes then eq or explosion whichever is needed

suicune
bold
leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA

roar
ice beam
surf
calm mind

after forretress is done is use suicune to shuffle through my oppenents team, and can be used for some late game sweeping.

swampert
relaxed
leftovers
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def

eq
stone edge
stealth rock
roar

use stealth rock if needed or if i need to i could use this to shuffle through my oppenents team instead of suicune.

starmie
timid
choice scarf
252 spa/252 spe/4 hp

phychic
ice beam
surf
tbolt

special sweeper, rapid spin is not needed as i already have forrtress as a rapid spinner.

salamence
modest
choice specs
252 spa/ 252 spe/ 4hp

draco meteor
hydro pump
flamethrower
dragon pulse

specs mence


metagross
adament
choice band
152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spe

eq
metoer mash
explosion
thunder punch

thunder punch over ice punch for gyrados as i already have 3 pokemon who could handle salamence and garchomp.
 
Add a ghost pokemon to block rapid spinners. You dont want all your hard work ruined because setting up again is a bitch.
 
Forretress is a terrible starter. You get Flamethrowered by Salamence, Taunted by Gyarados, put to sleep by anything with a sleep move, and you can't even touch Gengar. You have nothing to protect your team from Rapid Spin (*hintGhosttypehint*) so any spinner easily comes in and destroys your hard work.
Forretress is good, but not a good lead.

3 Water types? Why?
Roserade takes out 5/6th of your team (assuming it has Hidden Power Fire) and takes care of Salamence with Sleep Powder. It can survive Starmie's Psychic as well, because for some reason, you decided to use Timid instead of Modest.

You can put Dusclops over Suicune as an Anti-Spinner or use Scarfed Gengar over Starmie if you want a Ghost that can sweep and revenge-kill.
 
reis17 said:
forretress
relaxed
leftovers
252 HP / 162 Atk / 96 Def

spikes
eq/Stealth Rock
rapid spin
explosion


starter set up spikes then eq or explosion whichever is needed

This set will work at least half the time because of the many starters that carry fire moves but just a word of advice; wait until late game to explode. Otherwise, you won't have any early game defense against spikes and stealth rock which is the point of running rapid spin. In my opinion it would be better to get an early Stealth Rock to do 25% to flying types every time they switch in since your strategy is based on your opponent being hurt by switching in and because nothing that switches in can avoid being hurt by Stealth Rock.

suicune
bold
leftovers
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA

roar
ice beam
surf/Hidden Power Electric
calm mind

after forretress is done is use suicune to shuffle through my oppenents team, and can be used for some late game sweeping.

If this is a Shoddy Battle team I would use Hidden Power Electric over surf since nothing resists the an electric ice combo (Boltbeam). Otherwise this looks good.

swampert
relaxed
leftovers/Chesto Berry
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def

eq
stone edge
stealth rock/Rest
roar

use stealth rock if needed or if i need to i could use this to shuffle through my oppenents team instead of suicune.

If you decide, to run Stealth Rock on Forretress, then there isn't a point in having to Stealth Rock users and Swampert always benefits from being able to recover (something the rest of your team lacks). Chesto Berry can work if you decide to run Rest in ordder to get a free turn of free HP recovery.

starmie
Timid/Modest (Modest allows for extra power since you'll be outspeeding the majority of the OU metagame with Choice Scarf no matter what nature you use).
choice scarf
252 spa/252 spe/4 hp

Grass Knot
ice beam
surf
tbolt

special sweeper, rapid spin is not needed as i already have forrtress as a rapid spinner.

While Starmie does get STAB from Psychic, it is a much better idea to use Grass Knot in my opinion. It allows Starmie to do much more damage to Swampert.


salamence
modest
choice specs
252 spa/ 252 spe/ 4hp

draco meteor
hydro pump
flamethrower
Hidden Power Ice

specs mence

The only special Dragon move I ever use is Draco Meteor because of the insane base power it has. however in a situation where you would be using Dragon Pulse, it would be better to use Hidden Power Ice. Hidden Power Ice has a lot more coverage and hits Pokemon like Gliscor or Tangrowth who switch in assuming you are running a physical Slamence set.


metagross
adament
choice band
152 HP / 252 Atk / 104 Spe

eq
metoer mash
explosion
thunder punch

thunder punch over ice punch for gyrados as i already have 3 pokemon who could handle salamence and garchomp.

I'm wondering why you happen to be using the AgiliGross EV spread on a Choice Band Metagross. Was this a mistake or is there a reasoning behind it?
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As mentioned before, if there's anything a team that revolves around Spikes and Stealth Rock needs, it's a Ghost Pokemon to block rapid spin. Dusknoir is the best Pokemon for this job being that he makes a very good wall. Of course, another option you could consider is to use a Scarfed Gengar over Starmie since you already have Salamence and Suicune using water moves (you wouldn't lose much coverage).

Edit: aragorn beat me to it
 
You might want a Pseudo Phazer in there as well. Taunting a shuffle team can prove devastating to your strategy. Screech, Metal Sound, Charm, Fake Tears all help with this.
 
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