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[blooclipse]

av goodra lmao
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 188 SpA / 72 SpD
Modest Nature
- Power Whip
- Draco Meteor
- Filler
- Filler

Pwhip ohkos (0- Atk Goodra Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Seismitoad: 392-464 (111.6 - 132.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO)

seismitoad does nothing back
(252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 72 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 81-96 (21.1 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO
,252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Icy Wind vs. 248 HP / 72 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 68-80 (17.7 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO)

easy switch and you ohko 85% of the time (accuracy :pensive:)

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

kk

This should be Better
Tangrowth @ Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Giga Drain
- Knock Off
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake



252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Icy Wind vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth: 148-176 (36.6 - 43.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Not really 252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth in Rain: 151-178 (37.3 - 44%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

I think max spdef (i.e. the standard av) would be better all around, cause weather ball kinda bounces off and means that tang can check it more than just once 252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth in Rain: 109-129 (26.9 - 31.9%). This is the standard AV tang spread, no much need for specific evs. However if you wanna leave your submission the way it is then it's fine, no problems with that either : )

 

[Iceman8911]

Not really 252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth in Rain: 151-178 (37.3 - 44%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

I think max spdef (i.e. the standard av) would be better all around, cause weather ball kinda bounces off and means that tang can check it more than just once 252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tangrowth in Rain: 109-129 (26.9 - 31.9%). This is the standard AV tang spread, no much need for specific evs. However if you wanna leave your submission the way it is then it's fine, no problems with that either : )

kk
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[Giyu]

Mantine @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Roost
- Defog
- Haze / Toxic

Mantine is a counter due to it's immunity to both of Seismitoad's STAB typings + having an extraordinary special defense stat allowing it to take Grass Knot and Icy Wind with ease. Considering Scald is boosted by rain, Mantine is able to trade hits with Seismitoad to It's favor and can simply use Roost everytime it gets low on HP. Toxic is also an option as it's a much safer method whilst also crippling Seismitoad later into the game.

Calculations

->
252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mantine: 120-142 (32 - 37.9%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Icy Wind vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mantine: 56-66 (14.9 - 17.6%) -- possible 6HKO

->
0 SpA Mantine Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Seismitoad in Rain: 136-162 (38.7 - 46.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 SpA Mantine Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Seismitoad: 91-108 (25.9 - 30.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[Giyu]

av goodra lmao
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 188 SpA / 72 SpD
Modest Nature
- Power Whip
- Draco Meteor
- Filler
- Filler

Pwhip ohkos (0- Atk Goodra Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Seismitoad: 392-464 (111.6 - 132.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO)

seismitoad does nothing back
(252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 72 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 81-96 (21.1 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO
,252+ SpA Choice Specs Seismitoad Icy Wind vs. 248 HP / 72 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 68-80 (17.7 - 20.8%) -- possible 5HKO)

easy switch and you ohko 85% of the time (accuracy :pensive:)

As much as this works as a counter, Goodra just isn't viable and as far as I know; never was in Gen 8. I'm not even talking about viability rankings, Goodra; plain and simple isn't good enough to be a submission.

 

[blooclipse]

As much as this works as a counter, Goodra just isn't viable and as far as I know; never was in Gen 8. I'm not even talking about viability rankings, Goodra; plain and simple isn't good enough to be a submission.

Honestly i cant even be mad
i completely forgot it had to be on the vr lmao just ignore my post

 

[Giyu]

Honestly i cant even be mad
i completely forgot it had to be on the vr lmao just ignore my post

"Only post Pokemon sets that are viable in OU. Try to stick to the mons on the Viability Rankings."

I'm guessing this indicates that it would be recommended to use Pokemon in the viability rankings but I guess you don't need to. The pokemon just needs to be viable in the metagame somehow.

Mantine for example, was taken off the viability rankings some time ago but it's still viable since it can blanket check a lot of special attackers.

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

Starting the voting process. Everyone can vote for up to 2 counters and 2 checks

Counters:

by sufys12
Heavy-Duty Boots by HydreigonTheChild
Mixed Defenses by Iceman8911
Power Whip by Bluecliqse (Goodra is neither on the VR nor in the Top 200 of usage in OU.)
Heavy-Duty Boots by GiyuForPresident

Checks:

by myself12
Mixed Defenses Power Whip by shawk*+:)
by SDK03
by InvisibleWater
Water Absorb by Undorian
by XenonHero126
SpDef by SunCooled
Spdef Mirror Coat by Steel With It

Vote before Thursday June 9th at 23:59 EST​

 

[Red Raven]

 

[blooclipse]

honestly delete my goodra tbh
anyways and the monke for checks
blissey and tang for counters

 

[Giyu]

Bliss and Tang
Rillaboom and Kartana

 

[SunCooled]

Counters:
@ HydreigonTheChild
@ GiyuForPresident

Checks:
@ SDK03
@ XenonHero126

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

and for counters
and for checks

 

[myself12]

and for counters

and for checks

 

[Nickit with hat]

Counters:Blissey and slowking
Checks:Rilla and kart

 

[InvisibleWater]

Counters:
Checks:

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

Just a bump to remind everyone today is the last day to vote c:

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

Ty to everyone who voted. After a very close call, the winners this time are

Counter: by sufys12
Check: by SDK03


Now for the next Victim of the Week we have... Sand Rush Leftovers Excadrill!



Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin​

Rising on usage during the last couple of months as well as going from B to B+ on the VR, Excadrill has become a notable OU presence once again. Being able to offer utility with rapid spin, checking mons like Tapu Koko and Clefable, as well as providing offensive presence. How can we handle this pokemon?

Deadline for submissions is Tuesday June 14th at 11:59 EST
Remember to consider sand might be up
Please specify the pokemon you submit as either a counter or a check​

 

[myself12]

reserving corv

Corviknight @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- U-turn
- Defog
- Roost

easy counter. You take less than 15% from all of it's attacks, so you essentially can just do whatever you want in front of it. Also, you chip it with helmet and 2HKO with body press.

Calcs

Offensive:
168+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 234-276 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recover
0 Atk Corviknight U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 34-40 (9.4 - 11%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Defensive:
252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 168+ Def Corviknight: 51-60 (12.7 - 15%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252 Atk Excadrill Rapid Spin vs. 248 HP / 168+ Def Corviknight: 21-25 (5.2 - 6.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

 

[HydreigonTheChild]

@ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Roost

counter obv...30% chance to ass fuck it and you can heat wave it in return. You pretty much 2hko it while it cannot do that much to you in return. It requires a lot of hax to even get past zapdos at +2 as it requires to not only get flinches but also not get para'ed in which then it just gets heat wave twice and it loses outside of sand and in sand you can just fish for 25% full para.

0 SpA Zapdos Heat Wave vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Excadrill: 234-276 (64.8 - 76.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

+2 252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 236+ Def Zapdos: 109-129 (28.4 - 33.6%) -- 96.9% chance to 3HKO after sandstorm damage
252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 236+ Def Zapdos: 54-65 (14 - 16.9%) -- possible 5HKO after sandstorm damage

 

[Giyu]

Buzzwole @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 152 HP / 168 Atk / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat / Drain Punch
- Leech Life
- Ice Punch
- Roost

This is quite self-explanatory, Buzzwole has insane defensive bulk allowing it to take Iron Heads like a champ and OHKO with Close Combat or Drain Punch. Buzzwole is a counter.

Calculations

->
252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 0 Def Buzzwole: 102-120 (25.9 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

+2 252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 0 Def Buzzwole: 202-238 (51.3 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 0 Def Buzzwole: 111-132 (28.2 - 33.5%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO

+2 252+ Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 152 HP / 0 Def Buzzwole: 222-262 (56.4 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

->
168+ Atk Buzzwole Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 644-762 (178.3 - 211%) -- guaranteed OHKO

168+ Atk Buzzwole Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 404-476 (111.9 - 131.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[InvisibleWater]

Pelipper @ Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Roost
- U-turn
- Defog

Pelipper is a counter. Upon switching in, it removes the sand that Excadrill may be relying on to secure a sweep, and threatens a KO with Rain-boosted Scald. Excadrill has to get to +4 in order to break through Pelipper without having to rely on Iron Head flinches, which can be a tall order against the kinds of teams Pelipper usually finds itself on.

Calcs

0 SpA Pelipper Scald vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Excadrill in Rain: 350-414 (96.9 - 114.6%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
0- Atk Pelipper U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 19-23 (5.2 - 6.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever


252+ Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pelipper: 53-63 (16.4 - 19.5%) -- possible 6HKO
+2 252+ Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pelipper: 105-125 (32.5 - 38.6%) -- 98.9% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Excadrill Rapid Spin vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pelipper: 45-53 (13.9 - 16.4%) -- possible 7HKO
+2 252+ Atk Excadrill Rapid Spin vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Pelipper: 89-105 (27.5 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[SDK03]

Reserving Landorus-T

healthy meta tiger

Landorus-Therian @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 164 Def / 92 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Toxic / Knock Off​

Being the overall best Counter to Excadrill since the generation they both were introduced, Physically Defensive Landorus-T is and (unless Exca gets ice coverage or something) a Counter to Excadrill. It can switch into Excadrill very comfortably due to Intimidate lowering its Attack on switchin and is completely immune to opposing Earthquakes. Even if switching in on an Iron Head, with full HP investment and some defensive investment, a 1.5x Iron Head still merely 3HKOs Lando, with boosted Rapid Spin not even doing enough damage to be worth mentioning. After switching in, Lando can either hit the frail Excadrill back with its own STAB Earthquake for a guaranteed OHKO, set Stealth Rock in the case that Excadrill switches out, inflict status on any switchins or even chip the switchin/Excadrill and remove their item.

Defensive Landorus-T is a Counter to Excadrill

 

[blooclipse]

reserving the QUAG

Quagsire is legally blind fucking stupid

Idiot (Quagsire) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Toxic
- Earthquake / Protect
​

+6 252 Atk Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Quagsire: 135-160 (34.2 - 40.6%) -- 53.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
such a dumbass that they just sit there, unaware that there's anything going on


Ignorance is bliss.
-someone that I'm too lazy to look up

​

oh yeah its a counter

 

[zapthotz]

Skarmory is a counter

Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Spikes
- Roost

Driller cannot touch skarm with any of its moves, it can iron defense to match the SD, spike to force spin, body press to kill

+2 252 Atk Excadrill Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 76-90 (22.7 - 26.9%) -- 46.6% chance to 4HKO

252+ Def Skarmory Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Excadrill: 306-362 (84.7 - 100.2%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes