Gen 8 SS RU Resources

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SS RU
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Generation 8 specific changes/mechanics:

• Snow Warning summoned hail instead of snow. Hail did 1/16 damage per turn to non-Ice types but did not give a defense boost.
• Milk Drink, Recover, Rest, Roost, Shore Up, Slack Off, and Soft-Boiled has a max of 16 PP instead of 8

Resources:

Viability Rankings

S Rank​

Flygon​

S- Rank​

Crobat​

Reuniclus​

Togekiss​

A+ Rank​

Mimikyu​

Golisopod​

A Rank​

Aerodactyl​	Celebi​	Guzzlord​	Heracross​	Metagross​	Nidoqueen​
Raikou​	Registeel​	Sigilyph​	Steelix​	Vileplume​	Xurkitree​

A- Rank​

Bronzong​

Incineroar​

Lucario​

Milotic​

Pangoro​

Rhyperior​

Suicune​

Sharpedo​

Roserade​

B+ Rank​

Dhelmise​

Entei​

Gardevoir​

Gastrodon​

Klefki​

Rotom-Mow​

Seismitoad​

Stakataka​

Toxicroak​

Tsareena​

Umbreon​

Weezing-Galar​

Xatu​

B Rank​

Bewear​

Heliolisk​

Jellicent​

Marowak-Alola​

Noivern​

Porygon-Z​

Salazzle​

Starmie​

Talonflame​

Tornadus​

Toxtricity​

B- Rank​

Chandelure​	Cresselia​	Doublade​	Escavalier​	Gigalith​	Golurk​
Goodra​	Politoed​	Polteageist​	Porygon2​	Sneasel​	Snorlax​

Tentacruel​

Vaporeon​

Vikavolt​

C+ Rank​

Abomasnow​	Arctovish​	Barbaracle​	Cloyster​	Decidueye​	Diancie​
Drapion​	Eldegoss​	Indeedee​	Kingdra​	Ninetales​	Passimian​

Regidrago​

Tyrantrum​

C Rank​

Arcanine​

Articuno​

Aurorus​

Centiskorch​

Charizard​

Cryogonal​

Ditto​

Dragalge​

Froslass​

Grimmsnarl​

Ludicolo​

Omastar​

Quagsire​

Sandslash-Alola​

Scrafty​

Shiftry​

Slurpuff​

Zoroark​

Vanilluxe​

C- Rank​

Archeops​

Audino​

Blastoise​

Copperajah​

Drampa​

Drednaw​

Gallade​

Gourgeist (Small)​

Machamp​

Mantine​

Sableye​

Sir Fetch'd​

D Rank (blacklist)
Nothing!

Samples

Celebi Heracross Balanced Offense
by Yourwelcomethanku

Knock Off Toxic Reuniclus + itemless Flygon BO by
by sol

Jellicent Vileplume Balance
by the RU Community

Raikou and Gardevoir Spikes Stack
by the RU Community

Double Expert Belt Offense
by Beraldo

Metagross BO
by Sneakyplanner

Pangoro BO
by Metallica126

Omastar Rain
by sol

Spikes Hyper Offense
Typical Hyper Offense by the RU Community

archives

Knock Off Toxic Reuniclus + itemless Flygon BO
by Mac3

Description

Knock Off Toxic Reuniclus is great at wearing down the opposition, removing Leftovers from Toxic immune Pokemon like Registeel and crippling most else via Toxic. Nasty Plot Togekiss benefits from Reuniclus removing the Leftovers of Steel-types and provides a switch-in to the Pangoro that may take advantage of Reuniclus. Registeel checks Togekiss well and provides Stealth Rock. Milotic covers opposing setup sweepers like Reuniclus and Cosmic Power Metagross with Haze, and it covers Incineroar. This Milotic also has Mirror Coat, which could turn the tide against a special attacker like Heliolisk or Goodra. Milotic is a pretty good Knock Off sponge, helping Reuniclus keep its Rocky Helmet but the synergy goes both ways, as Reuniclus can take on Pokemon that like to Toxic Milotic such as Rhyperior and Metagross. Flygon provides a Ground-type, sweeper, and no item helps it switch into Incineroar a bit more; Incineroar can blow past Milotic if it's Jolly, so that's why there's another check. No item is also helpful against the occasional Alolan Marowak because you're immune to Poltergeist. Choice Scarf Mowtom provides speed control, entry hazard removal, something to pressure Water-types, and cripple the opposition with Trick.

Escavalier + Stakataka BO
by Yourwelcomethanku

Description

This team is made around Escavalier + Stakataka to try and cover the downsides of using Escavalier as your Steel-type, and Stakataka's Toxic pressuring Water-type Escavalier checks like Milotic is also nice.. Stakataka covers Togekiss and Sigilyph well which Escavalier doesn't. Crobat is the Fighting switch-in, important for Heracross and Lucario, it also importantly provides entry hazard removal. Haze Milotic helps provide more assurance against setup sweepers like Psysho Shift Calm Mind Sigilyph and Cosmic Power Metagross, Ice Beam is slotted in here for Dragon Dance Flygon. Celebi counters Water-types and pairs nicely with Escavalier's Knock Off to weaken checks to Celebi like Incineroar. Flygon fills the last slot to try and compress Ground-type that answers Raikou + wallbreaker with a Life Orb Scale Shot set, and Roost helps more against Raikou.

SD Talonflame + Raikou BO
by C0nfiden1 0yster

Description

This team is built around the SD Talon and the Raikou as the two complement each other well. Talon beats the common grounds grasses of the tier and Kou beats the waters talon struggle to switch in to. The one ground that halts Talon's progress, rhyperior, gets bodied by Kou's scald. For a defensive backbone, Gastrodon and Bronzong are used as they cover common edgequake users such as Aerodactyl, Rhyperior, and Flygon which talon and kou struggle with. Bewear is used to beat punish Umbreon who can be annoying to break and also can switch into knock off's from Guzzlord and Golisopod. Dhelmise is the last option as it provides a sturdy Reuniclus check as well as swich into bulky waters, and with Lum Berry there is little concern about a potential Scald burn.

Metagross BO
by Sneakyplanner

Description

A pretty standard yet effective bulky offence team built around Metagross. The hazard setters and removers are Metagross and Dhelmise, both great bulky offensive threats that don't give up anything for the utility. Metagross is EVed to outspeed Seismotoad and common faster bulky Incineroar spreads. Toxic is probably better than bullet punch but the priority is useful in revenge killing fairies that think they are safe or getting the last bit of damage on a dragon dancer. Dhelmise excels as a spinner because it its ability to hit a lot of rockers super effectively and even hit Steelix and Registeel hard. I have swapped between physdef and spdef on the Dhelmise, but right now I like Spdef because it switches in well to toxtricity, which the team otherwise struggles to deal with. Drapion fills a bunch of tiny holes in the team and has been a surprise success for me. It is a dark type to keep you from instalosing to Polteageist, a decently bulky pokemon faster than Lucario to revenge kill it with earthquake when Flygon is damaged, a deceptively powerful physical sweeper, a grounded poison type to absorb the rare toxic spikes and a way to reliably beat passive psychic sweepers like Reuniclus, Sigilyph and Metagross. Togekiss is running heal bell because 4/6 of the team really fears a scald burn and the team doesn't really struggle to wear down steel types that would require flamethrower to beat, but flamethrower is still an option.

Pangoro BO
by Metallica126

Description

This team was built around CB Pangoro,it is an amazing wallbreaker, many team can't switch into it well. Raikou is a good partner of Pangoro, it can counter Togekiss and bring in Volt Switch against the opponents defensive core to bring Pangoro in safely. Steelix, Vapo,and Dhelm are the defense core; they can deal with Pokemon such as Flygon, Nidoqueen, Gardevior and so on. NP Crobat is a sweeper, and it can deal with vileplume.

Omastar Rain
by Mac3

Description

Politoed is an obvious must for a rain team. Rain teams particularly thrive against fast frail offensive teams and those without a particularly good Water resist. Seismitoad is on most rain teams as the compression of Swift Swim sweeper, Ground-type, and Stealth Rock is great. Politoed is a kind of sucky momentum drain for rain teams, so having threats that aren't reliant on rain is helpful. Toxicroak and Sharpedo are strong offensive threats unreliant on rain. Sharpedo being a strong wallbreaker that benefits from rain but isn't reliant on it and Toxicroak still is able to take advantage of Water-types like Milotic. Omastar is the team's second Swift Swim sweeper and it's also somewhat less reliant on rain than other Swift Swim Pokemon due to Shell Smash; it can be very threatening outside of rain due to Shell Smash, which also lets it outspeed Choice Scarf Gardevoir in rain. Calm Mind Klefki is an odd setup sweeper but a strong choice here. Fire-type moves are weakened in rain and it's not entirely worse than the other Steel-type setup sweepers of the tier. It isn't weak to Pangoro and Sharpedo like Metagross is and not having to run IronPress leaves it less picky with its moveslots than an IronPress Registeel, which can't have all of Heavy Slam, Amnesia, and Rest. The Klefki also outpaces Adamant Pangoro and Bewear.

 

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SPEED TIERS

Tier 0 (> Base Speed of 100 at +1)
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
591	Aerodactyl		130	+Spe	252	+1
578	Sharpedo		95	Neutral	252	+2
568	Kabutops		80	+Spe	252	+2
541	Starmie		115	+Spe	252	+1
538	Aerodactyl		130	Neutral	252	+1
	Kingdra		85	Neutral	252	+2
534	Slurpuff		72	+Spe	252	+2
524	Cloyster		70	+Spe	252	+2
518	Kabutops		80	Neutral​	252	+2
516	Barbaracle		68	+Spe	252	+2
502	Sandslash Alola		65	+Spe	252	+2
494	Polteageist		70	+Spe	196	+2
	Seismitoad, Drednaw		74	Neutral	252	+2

Tier 1 (≤ Base Speed of 100 at +1; > Base Speed of 130)
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
492	Celebi, Flygon		100	+Spe	252	+1
478	Ludicolo		70	Neutral	252	+2
475	Indeedee		95	+Spe	252	+1
459	Porygon-Z		90	+Spe	252	+1
448	Arctovish		55	+Spe	232	+2
447	Rotom-Mow		86	+Spe	252	+1
442	Heracross, Cresselia		85	+Spe	252	+1
436	Xurkitree		83	+Spe	252	+1
433	Sharpedo		95	Neutral	252	+1
426	Chandelure, Gardevoir, Togekiss		80	+Spe	252	+1
400	Tsareena		72	+Spe	252	+1
397	Tyrantrum		71	+Spe	252	+1

Tier 2 ( ≤ Base Speed of 130 ; ≥ Base Speed of 100 )
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
394	Aerodactyl, Crobat		130	+Spe	252	0
393	Metagross		70	+Spe	252	+1
388	Regidrago		80	Neutral	252	+1
386	Talonflame		126	+Spe	252	0
381	Ribombee		124	+Spe	252	0
380	Crobat		130	+Spe	200	0
379	Noivern		123	+Spe	252	0
366	Salazzle		117	+Spe	252	0
361	Raikou, Starmie, Sneasel		115	+Spe	252	0
359	Aerodactyl		130	Neutral	252	0
353	Tornadus		111	+Spe	252	0
350	Froslass		110	+Spe	252	0
348	Heliolisk		109	+Spe	252	0
339	Zoroark		105	+Spe	252	0
329	Sneasel		115	Neutral	252	0
328	Flygon,Celebi, Entei		100	+Spe	252	0

Tier 3 ( < Base Speed of 100 ; ≥ Base Speed of 80 )
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boost
322	Sigilyph		97	+Spe	252	0
320	Mimikyu		96	+Spe	252	0
317	Indeedee, Drapion		95	+Spe	252	0
312	Porygon2		60	Neutral	0	+2
310	Marowak Alola		45	+Spe	252	+1
308	Xatu		95	+Spe	216	0
306	Lucario, Roserade, Porygon-Z		90	+Spe	252	0
298	Rotom-Mow		86	+Spe	252	0
295	Heracross, Suicune, Toxicroak, Cresselia		85	+Spe	252	0
291	Xurkitree		83	+Spe	252	0
289	Sharpedo		95	Neutral	252	0
284	Chandelure, Gardevoir, Togekiss, Goodra		80	+Spe	252	0

Tier 4 ( ≤ Base Speed of 80 ; ≥ Base Speed of 60 )
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
277	Vanilluxe		79	+Spe	232	0
276	Nidoqueen		76	+Spe	252	0
273	Toxtricity		75	+Spe	252	0
267	Slurpuff, Tsareena		72	+Spe	252	0
269	Kingdra		85	Neutral	252	0
265	Tyrantrum		71	+Spe	252	0
262	Cloyster		70	+Spe	252	0
259	Regidrago, Kabutops, Goodra		80	Neutral	252	0
258	Barbaracle		68	+Spe	252	0
251	Nidoqueen		76	Neutral	252	0
	Sandslash Alola		65	+Spe	252	0
249	Toxtricity		75	Neutral	252	0
247	Polteageist		70	+Spe	196	0
	Seismitoad, Drednaw		74	Neutral	252	0
241	Linoone		100	Neutral	20	0
240	Bewear, Incineroar		60	+Spe	252	0

Tier 5 ( < Base Speed of 60 ; ≥ 209 )
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
239	Metagross, Decidueye, Ludicolo		70	Neutral	252	0
236	Pangoro		58	+Spe	252	0
229	Golurk		55	+Spe	252	0
226	Xatu		95	Neutral	0	0
220	Milotic		81	Neutral	88	0
220	Seismitoad		74	Neutral	144	0
219	Bewear, Incineroar, Abomasnow		60	Neutral	252	0
215	Pangoro, Aurorus		58	Neutral	252	0
211	Dhelmise		40	Neutral	100	+1
210	Suicune		85	Neutral	16	0
	Milotic		81	Neutral	48	0
209	Golurk		55	Neutral	252	0
207	Marowak Alola	​	45	+Spe	252	0
224	Arctovish		55	+Spe	252	0

Tier 6 ( < 209 )
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Speed	Pokemon Name	Sprite	Base Speed	Nature	EVs	Boosts
196	Rhyperior		40	+Spe	252	0
190	Klefki		75	Neutral	16	0
	Seismitoad		74	Neutral	24	0
	Metagross		70	Neutral	56	0
189	Marowak-Alola		45	Neutral	252	0
179	Rhyperior		40	Neutral	252	0
176	Politoed		70	Neutral	0	0
167	Jellicent		60	+Spe	44	0
166	Umbreon, Vaporeon		65	Neutral	0	0
157	Ditto (4 Spe IV)		48	Neutral	0	+1
156	Porygon2, Weezing Galar, Incineroar		60	Neutral	0	0
141	Diancie		50	Neutral	20	0
	Dragalge		45	Neutral	68	0
	Dhelmise, Golisopod		40	Neutral	100	0
140	Incineroar		60	-Spe	0	0
136	Registeel, Vileplume, Sableye		50	Neutral	0	0
126	Marowak-Alola		45	Neutral	0	0
122	Guzzlord		43	Neutral	0	0
116	Dhelmise, Rhyperior		40	Neutral	0	0
114	Gastrodon		39	Neutral	0	0
106	Doublade, Quagsire		35	Neutral	0	0
102	Bronzong		33	Neutral	0	0
97	Escavalier		20	Neutral	84	0
96	Reuniclus, Steelix, Snorlax		30	Neutral	0	0
86	Gigalith		25	Neutral	0	0
64	Snorlax		30	Neutral	0	-1
63	Bronzong (0 Spe IV)		30	-Spe	0	0
31	Stakataka (0 Spe IV)		13	Neutral	0	0
27	Stakataka (0 Spe IV)		13	-Spe	0	0
22	Ferroseed (0 Spe IV)		10	-Spe	0	0

 

[C0nfiden1 0yster]

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tagging ppl to make their own: Mac3 BluBirD Attribute Metallica126 dunoks QWILY @ anyone else who wants to

 

[sol]

ty for tag C0nfiden1 0yster

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[GoldCat]

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[BluBirD]

oh boy, here we go.

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[Attribute]

disclaimer: im not exactly the most confident in my knowledge in this tier mostly due to the 1981893 mons below ru that can probably be viable. with that being said, given the things that i have put some thought into + things that ive seen within the past year, i end up with this (the mons within the tiers aren't in order):
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if i didn't include something i either don't have an informed opinion on it or i think it sucks

 

[Metallica126]

RANKING
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[Ryu]

Hi, i would like submite some teams that i like for new players! :) s/o Metallica126 and C0nfiden1 0yster for helping me in this tier.

Rugl w1 vs XxCrossbowXx ( W ) https://pokepast.es/04a7f7734c55cd73

Rugl w2 vs Feen ( W )
https://pokepast.es/b6c7d25d1157ecbe

Rugl w4 vs Dex ( W )
https://pokepast.es/aaa120981778bdf6

Rugl w6 vs Sasha ( W )
https://pokepast.es/dd1a784fafb6f6db

SSPL w3 vs Feen ( W )
https://pokepast.es/e21bccc2faca32e5

Ruwc Pools vs BtBoy ( W )
https://pokepast.es/6d90c7aa9cb85986

Other teams that i like a lot:

SSPL Semi Finals vs Goldcat ( L )
https://pokepast.es/ac74a9d84d3dc93e

SSPL w1 Yovan
https://pokepast.es/483fde81a5d3d741

RUPL Dunoks Stall
https://pokepast.es/ae1bb8706da92098

Idk, but i like too
https://pokepast.es/0e05e23c1564fdb4

Zeelitium Vs TheStrap Ruwc 2023 Semi finals
https://pokepast.es/ae08460abd8cd77d

Some 4fun teams:

Specs Roserade Hstack
https://pokepast.es/0b28ddb414f56f28

Boots Gard + Band Goro
https://pokepast.es/d9051fc91921d31a

PorymiKyu Hstack
https://pokepast.es/380f994f8770e3cb

Glastier + Np Bat
https://pokepast.es/f327f101fb6364d0

 

[Ryu]

Yo! I know it’s been quite a while since RUBD ended, but with RUPL coming up so soon, I decided to share some of the teams I used and a bit of my teambuilding process! ( click to get past )

W1 vs Dunoks ( W )

Well, Dunoks had a solid run in RUPL, and I know he usually likes FAT team not necessarily Stall so I went with a hazard stack that keeps up constant Knock Off pressure and uses Taunt to stop recovery or Defog. Plus, at the time, I was absolutely in love with this playstyle featuring Mimikyu it just felt so fun to use lol (also sigilyph my beloved )

W2 vs Sol ( L )

Like I said, I was really into these Mimikyu hazard stack structures at the time, so there’s not much else to add. Sol has a lot of public teams, which makes scouting him pretty tricky, so I just went with something I felt comfortable using. I did get a bit unlucky in this match, but Sol played really well, so Id say he deserved the win (i tried something new with cresselia, not much to say but underrated mon)

W3 vs TheStrap ( W )

TheStrap was the MVP of SSPL in RU, and I had already played against him in RUWC, where I lost. However, by then, I had studied and understood his playstyle. The EVs on Gastrodon were set to take more hits from Life Orb Nidoqueen, a Pokémon that showed up frequently in his teams. He used a wide variety of builds, but there was always a pattern—and notably, a lack of Dark-types. That made Specs Chandelure feel like a fantastic pick. IdPress Registeel also worked really well since there weren’t many Ghost-types on his scout.

W4 vs Taka ( W )

Ngl i didnt prep, just picked some fun team good against HO lol

W5 vs OBB ( L )

Here, I decided to try something a little different. My opponent always used bulky Water-types and more passive Pokémon, so I wanted to cook up something strong that could break through behind a Substitute. Unfortunately, I ran into Diancie, one of the few solid checks to Porygon, which was a bit unlucky.

Another interesting pick was Bronzong, which had a great matchup and could have easily taken over the game with the right opportunity. Sadly, I let it get Tricked by a Metagross on turn 1, but overall, the matchup was pretty comfortable—I just didnt play it well.

I also brought Banded Seismitoad, which was amazing against bulky Water-types, giving me even more ways to pressure my opponent usual team structures
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Here are a few more teams I built during the tournament but ended up scrapping before using them:

[ Dazz Cruel ]
https://pokepast.es/cf5122267c0f6c2d

[ Band Cross ]
https://pokepast.es/fc5e76392b04fe7f

[ Band ugly fairy ]
https://pokepast.es/c213d26454f31637

[ Fat sand Cosmic Power gross ]
https://pokepast.es/6d5db92cb1be4a7a

[ idk, just a random builder ]
https://pokepast.es/22a7def31aa21866

I expected more from myself in this tournament, but it was still a really fun experience, both as a captain and as a player. This is definitely the most fun tier for me, and I really hope more people get interested in it. See you all in RUPL! (Hopefully!) :)

 

[C0nfiden1 0yster]

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reuniclus is by far the pokemon with the highest upside/most potential to take over a game, so much so that despite how difficult it can be to fit, it is the best pokemon in the tier. There is a notion that you can just run offense in SS and still find success, of which you can, but the real fun of the tier starts when you realize that many playstyles are close to each other in viability. BOs and offenses are really strong options but reuniclus fats are also very strong options, all of which make for a more interesting and engaging tier.

Aerodactyl is like the key that opens up doors beyond the traditional crobat/togekiss cores. Its best attribute is that it serves as a proactive response to crobat (and togekiss), which opens up steel-types like escavalier, bronzong, steelix, etc.. its ability to threaten electrics with its fast EQ is vital as well. With how essential it can be to teambuilding, I think a top 5 spot is more than deserved.

steelix is another pokemon that opens up teambuilding. Not only is steelix role compression as the ground/steel, it is also really good at the roles it compresses, which sets it apart from other role-compression-types such as seismitoad. It is a fantastic ground-type into xurkitrees, it can take resisted special attacks fairly well, and it checks standard crobats and mimikyus very reliably. its weaknesses are also fairly straightforward to make up for, those weaknesses being weak to togekiss, not being the fattest special attack absorber, and weakness to raikou scald.

metagross is in a strange place right now as none of its sets are really all that good right now. Rocks isnt bulky enough, its stabs around great for a choice band set, scarf is too clunky. E-belt is fairly good but not really the most splashable. cosmic power is pretty good but again, needs a real supporting cast. custap boom sets are fun on offenses but no one has used them. Obviously its the versatility that pushes metagross on many lists but as the tier continues to optimize, it becomes more and more difficult to justify metagross on many teams.

guzzlord faces many of the concerns I find wo chien faces SV, except even worse without tera, albeit with more progressive upside. A slow, defensive dark-type is just difficult to justify for me. That being said, while I cant tell for some reason because there arent cumulative usage stats for SS in rupl, it still gets used a ton, but notably, many of the people I consider the top builders of the tier do not use this pokemon. Guzzlord also kind of has to be run with steelix as it’s its only real natural partner, more reason to rate steelix high and more reason to reconsider if guzzlord is worth all the praise it so often receives.

roserade has benefitted a lot from feli/ajna teams being used as many of them either dont have crobat or dont run defog on it. It also benefits from people thinking defog crobat is bad for some reason. It still has the other upsides that made it very good in the past.