STAB STABmons

Haven't seen rotom-wash :rotom-wash: in a while. Any suggestions on how to counter them?

Embarrassing Battle ^^"
I know ground types exist but water shuriken also exists (then maybe banning Water shuriken wouldn't be a bad idea..)

Edit: Swapped gengar:gengar: with latios:latios: and changed kleavor:kleavor: with zarude:zarude:. Surprisingly was now able to find a way to take it down while not losing much against others (other than bug types but that's a story for another day ^^")
 
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stabmons open is going on, ompl starts soon.

let the creativity of STABmons flourish, I am going to do my part and hope others will take the same leap and share their opinions to prepare for a competitive OMPL. I apology due to lack of time not making this post more pretty.

finished teams
https://pokepast.es/2fe3410546200d6d
https://pokepast.es/b5f2779ddd3d3b65
https://pokepast.es/8004854ca993037f
https://pokepast.es/fbcdc5a439e0bda3
https://pokepast.es/dd3b2bec26882616
https://pokepast.es/a4a107a33c837f52
https://pokepast.es/95c56e37e5d8446b
https://pokepast.es/79807ce46fffa48b

ideas
https://pokepast.es/8bf7cf30a5a1a060
https://pokepast.es/b1f0a6b39b01f8dd
https://pokepast.es/27fb0c7775948a7a
https://pokepast.es/1d296a39edd11afb
:grassy seed: :gholdengo:
:Choice Scarf: :Sneasler:
:Indeedee: offense
:suicune: + :corviknight:
:raging bolt: Sun with Solar Beam

https://tiermaker.com/create/stabmons-viability-rankings-17571346
big thanks to Slither Wing for making the vr, I hope others can share their version. I didn't play to long this tier to be comfortable to give a proper ranking but you can see my tendencies in the teams. While they don't cover my whole opinion they include mons you might see in my teams more than in others for now.
Final note:
Looking at Gen 7, 8, 9 and to some degree Gen 6 and helped me come up with new Structures for Teams. Maybe this can help you as well

See you at OMPL
 
STABmons Open 2025 replay/usage
Code:
+ ---- + -------------------- + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon              | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + -------------------- + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Landorus-Therian     |   61 |  40.40% |  57.38% |
| 2    | Gholdengo            |   61 |  40.40% |  57.38% |
| 3    | Toxapex              |   53 |  35.10% |  58.49% |
| 4    | Zamazenta            |   36 |  23.84% |  47.22% |
| 5    | Ting-Lu              |   35 |  23.18% |  51.43% |
| 6    | Iron Valiant         |   34 |  22.52% |  55.88% |
| 7    | Rotom-Wash           |   34 |  22.52% |  47.06% |
| 8    | Ogerpon-Cornerstone  |   33 |  21.85% |  54.55% |
| 9    | Walking Wake         |   29 |  19.21% |  58.62% |
| 10   | Kingambit            |   29 |  19.21% |  51.72% |
| 11   | Raging Bolt          |   29 |  19.21% |  55.17% |
| 12   | Corviknight          |   23 |  15.23% |  39.13% |
| 13   | Latios               |   22 |  14.57% |  63.64% |
| 14   | Meloetta             |   21 |  13.91% |  57.14% |
| 15   | Great Tusk           |   18 |  11.92% |  55.56% |
| 16   | Tyranitar            |   18 |  11.92% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Thundurus-Therian    |   18 |  11.92% |  50.00% |
| 18   | Volcanion            |   17 |  11.26% |  41.18% |
| 19   | Sylveon              |   16 |  10.60% |  43.75% |
| 20   | Weavile              |   16 |  10.60% |  50.00% |
| 21   | Volcarona            |   14 |   9.27% |  71.43% |
| 22   | Slowking             |   13 |   8.61% |  61.54% |
| 23   | Iron Moth            |   13 |   8.61% |  53.85% |
| 24   | Rillaboom            |   13 |   8.61% |  61.54% |
| 25   | Samurott-Hisui       |   13 |   8.61% |  46.15% |
| 26   | Darkrai              |   12 |   7.95% |  41.67% |
| 27   | Zapdos               |    9 |   5.96% |  66.67% |
| 28   | Skarmory             |    8 |   5.30% |  75.00% |
| 29   | Primarina            |    8 |   5.30% |  50.00% |
| 30   | Clodsire             |    8 |   5.30% |  75.00% |
| 31   | Gliscor              |    7 |   4.64% |  28.57% |
| 32   | Scizor               |    7 |   4.64% |  14.29% |
| 33   | Heatran              |    6 |   3.97% |  83.33% |
| 34   | Cloyster             |    6 |   3.97% |  16.67% |
| 35   | Salamence            |    6 |   3.97% |   0.00% |
| 36   | Pecharunt            |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 37   | Clefable             |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 38   | Blissey              |    5 |   3.31% |  60.00% |
| 39   | Hydrapple            |    5 |   3.31% |  20.00% |
| 40   | Hatterene            |    5 |   3.31% |  60.00% |
| 41   | Deoxys-Speed         |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 42   | Urshifu              |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 43   | Excadrill            |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 44   | Magnezone            |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 45   | Weezing-Galar        |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 46   | Archaludon           |    4 |   2.65% |  75.00% |
| 47   | Torkoal              |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 48   | Okidogi              |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 49   | Basculegion-F        |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 50   | Kommo-o              |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 51   | Incineroar           |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 52   | Iron Boulder         |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 53   | Iron Treads          |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 54   | Slowking-Galar       |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 55   | Moltres              |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 56   | Mamoswine            |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 57   | Blaziken             |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 58   | Iron Crown           |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 59   | Scovillain           |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 60   | Slither Wing         |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 61   | Iron Hands           |    2 |   1.32% | 100.00% |
| 62   | Chansey              |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 63   | Sneasler             |    2 |   1.32% | 100.00% |
| 64   | Glastrier            |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 65   | Latias               |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 66   | Ninetales-Alola      |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 67   | Thundurus            |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 68   | Moltres-Galar        |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 69   | Goodra-Hisui         |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 70   | Lilligant-Hisui      |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 71   | Amoonguss            |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 72   | Palafin              |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 73   | Greninja             |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 74   | Meowscarada          |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 75   | Ninetales            |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 76   | Tornadus-Therian     |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 77   | Bisharp              |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 78   | Torterra             |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 79   | Cyclizar             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 80   | Ogerpon              |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 81   | Urshifu-Rapid-Strike |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 82   | Zapdos-Galar         |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 83   | Keldeo               |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 84   | Zarude               |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 85   | Mimikyu              |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 86   | Alomomola            |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 87   | Skeledirge           |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 88   | Barraskewda          |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 89   | Pelipper             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 90   | Umbreon              |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 91   | Keldeo-Resolute      |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 92   | Heracross            |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 93   | Jolteon              |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 94   | Quaquaval            |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 95   | Tinkaton             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 96   | Vikavolt             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 97   | Talonflame           |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 98   | Forretress           |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 99   | Annihilape           |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 100  | Politoed             |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 101  | Regidrago            |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 102  | Rotom-Mow            |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 103  | Sableye              |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 104  | Tatsugiri-Droopy     |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 105  | Comfey               |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 106  | Sandy Shocks         |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 107  | Whimsicott           |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 108  | Garganacl            |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 109  | Cobalion             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 110  | Grimmsnarl           |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
Compiled replays, 77 games posted - https://pokepast.es/b15fd1864a3b0804

General Move Usage below
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| Rank | Move               | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Knock Off          |   77 |  50.99% |  55.84% |
| 2    | Flip Turn          |   67 |  44.37% |  55.22% |
| 3    | Stealth Rock       |   58 |  38.41% |  58.62% |
| 4    | Swords Dance       |   54 |  35.76% |  48.15% |
| 5    | Mortal Spin        |   52 |  34.44% |  59.62% |
| 6    | U-turn             |   50 |  33.11% |  58.00% |
| 7    | Shore Up           |   47 |  31.13% |  53.19% |
| 8    | Torch Song         |   47 |  31.13% |  57.45% |
| 9    | Clanging Scales    |   43 |  28.48% |  53.49% |
| 10   | Steam Eruption     |   38 |  25.17% |  71.05% |
| 11   | Stone Axe          |   38 |  25.17% |  55.26% |
| 12   | Beak Blast         |   38 |  25.17% |  57.89% |
| 13   | Combat Torque      |   37 |  24.50% |  59.46% |
| 14   | Water Shuriken     |   36 |  23.84% |  38.89% |
| 15   | Nasty Plot         |   36 |  23.84% |  41.67% |
| 16   | Moongeist Beam     |   35 |  23.18% |  54.29% |
| 17   | Roost              |   33 |  21.85% |  45.45% |
| 18   | Scald              |   32 |  21.19% |  46.88% |
| 19   | Electro Drift      |   32 |  21.19% |  62.50% |
| 20   | Dragon Ascent      |   31 |  20.53% |  54.84% |
| 21   | Spikes             |   31 |  20.53% |  51.61% |
| 22   | Burning Bulwark    |   31 |  20.53% |  54.84% |
| 23   | Parting Shot       |   31 |  20.53% |  51.61% |
| 24   | Boomburst          |   27 |  17.88% |  48.15% |
| 25   | Rapid Spin         |   27 |  17.88% |  55.56% |
| 26   | Precipice Blades   |   25 |  16.56% |  56.00% |
| 27   | Substitute         |   24 |  15.89% |  45.83% |
| 28   | Recover            |   24 |  15.89% |  37.50% |
| 29   | Headlong Rush      |   23 |  15.23% |  43.48% |
| 30   | Earthquake         |   23 |  15.23% |  52.17% |
| 31   | Tachyon Cutter     |   22 |  14.57% |  50.00% |
| 32   | Moonblast          |   20 |  13.25% |  40.00% |
| 33   | Bulk Up            |   18 |  11.92% |  55.56% |
| 34   | Crunch             |   18 |  11.92% |  50.00% |
| 35   | Magical Torque     |   18 |  11.92% |  55.56% |
| 36   | Trick              |   18 |  11.92% |  61.11% |
| 37   | Malignant Chain    |   17 |  11.26% |  64.71% |
| 38   | Calm Mind          |   17 |  11.26% |  52.94% |
| 39   | Thunderclap        |   17 |  11.26% |  35.29% |
| 40   | Sucker Punch       |   16 |  10.60% |  50.00% |
| 41   | Taunt              |   16 |  10.60% |  50.00% |
| 42   | Lumina Crash       |   15 |   9.93% |  53.33% |
| 43   | Power Whip         |   15 |   9.93% |  53.33% |
| 44   | Parabolic Charge   |   15 |   9.93% |  46.67% |
| 45   | Defog              |   15 |   9.93% |  53.33% |
| 46   | Body Press         |   14 |   9.27% |  42.86% |
| 47   | Glacial Lance      |   13 |   8.61% |  46.15% |
| 48   | Volt Switch        |   13 |   8.61% |  30.77% |
| 49   | Fiery Wrath        |   13 |   8.61% |  46.15% |
| 50   | Earth Power        |   13 |   8.61% |  38.46% |
| 51   | Focus Blast        |   13 |   8.61% |  53.85% |
| 52   | Take Heart         |   12 |   7.95% |  33.33% |
| 53   | Sacred Fire        |   12 |   7.95% |  66.67% |
| 54   | Salt Cure          |   12 |   7.95% |  58.33% |
| 55   | Grav Apple         |   12 |   7.95% |  50.00% |
| 56   | Strength Sap       |   11 |   7.28% |  54.55% |
| 57   | Esper Wing         |   11 |   7.28% |  45.45% |
| 58   | Ceaseless Edge     |   11 |   7.28% |  45.45% |
| 59   | Low Kick           |   11 |   7.28% |  63.64% |
| 60   | Jet Punch          |   10 |   6.62% |  50.00% |
| 61   | Aeroblast          |   10 |   6.62% |  60.00% |
| 62   | Thunderous Kick    |    9 |   5.96% |  22.22% |
| 63   | Bullet Punch       |    9 |   5.96% |  11.11% |
| 64   | Diamond Storm      |    9 |   5.96% |  55.56% |
| 65   | Glare              |    8 |   5.30% |  25.00% |
| 66   | Shell Smash        |    8 |   5.30% |  25.00% |
| 67   | Spacial Rend       |    8 |   5.30% |  75.00% |
| 68   | Destiny Bond       |    8 |   5.30% |  37.50% |
| 69   | Will-O-Wisp        |    8 |   5.30% |  37.50% |
| 70   | Clear Smog         |    7 |   4.64% |  42.86% |
| 71   | Infernal Parade    |    7 |   4.64% |  42.86% |
| 72   | Moonlight          |    7 |   4.64% |  57.14% |
| 73   | Sludge Bomb        |    7 |   4.64% |  42.86% |
| 74   | Psyshock           |    7 |   4.64% |  28.57% |
| 75   | Sticky Web         |    7 |   4.64% |  28.57% |
| 76   | Psychic Noise      |    7 |   4.64% |  42.86% |
| 77   | Pyro Ball          |    7 |   4.64% |  42.86% |
| 78   | Ivy Cudgel         |    6 |   3.97% |  50.00% |
| 79   | Encore             |    6 |   3.97% |  66.67% |
| 80   | Thunderbolt        |    6 |   3.97% |  66.67% |
| 81   | Psystrike          |    6 |   3.97% |  50.00% |
| 82   | Dragon Darts       |    6 |   3.97% |   0.00% |
| 83   | Ice Beam           |    6 |   3.97% |  50.00% |
| 84   | Seed Flare         |    6 |   3.97% |  33.33% |
| 85   | Matcha Gotcha      |    6 |   3.97% |  16.67% |
| 86   | Quiver Dance       |    6 |   3.97% |  50.00% |
| 87   | Stone Edge         |    6 |   3.97% |  50.00% |
| 88   | Shadow Ball        |    6 |   3.97% |  66.67% |
| 89   | Toxic Spikes       |    6 |   3.97% |  83.33% |
| 90   | Milk Drink         |    6 |   3.97% |  66.67% |
| 91   | Surging Strikes    |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 92   | Iron Defense       |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 93   | Whirlwind          |    5 |   3.31% |  60.00% |
| 94   | Discharge          |    5 |   3.31% |  80.00% |
| 95   | Make It Rain       |    5 |   3.31% |  80.00% |
| 96   | Psychic            |    5 |   3.31% |  80.00% |
| 97   | Bitter Blade       |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 98   | Zen Headbutt       |    5 |   3.31% |  20.00% |
| 99   | Memento            |    5 |   3.31% |  20.00% |
| 100  | Giga Drain         |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 101  | Noxious Torque     |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 102  | Ice Punch          |    5 |   3.31% |  40.00% |
| 103  | Soft-Boiled        |    4 |   2.65% |  75.00% |
| 104  | Sunsteel Strike    |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 105  | Grassy Glide       |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 106  | Light Screen       |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 107  | Reflect            |    4 |   2.65% |  75.00% |
| 108  | Future Sight       |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 109  | Icicle Spear       |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 110  | Bug Buzz           |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 111  | Ice Shard          |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 112  | Protect            |    4 |   2.65% |  50.00% |
| 113  | Dynamax Cannon     |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 114  | Hydro Steam        |    4 |   2.65% |  25.00% |
| 115  | Healing Wish       |    3 |   1.99% | 100.00% |
| 116  | High Horsepower    |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 117  | Whirlpool          |    3 |   1.99% | 100.00% |
| 118  | Hurricane          |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 119  | Fickle Beam        |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 120  | Dragon Dance       |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 121  | Flamethrower       |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 122  | Pin Missile        |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 123  | Ice Spinner        |    3 |   1.99% |   0.00% |
| 124  | Eruption           |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 125  | Drain Punch        |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 126  | Judgment           |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 127  | Close Combat       |    3 |   1.99% | 100.00% |
| 128  | Teleport           |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 129  | Corrosive Gas      |    3 |   1.99% |  66.67% |
| 130  | First Impression   |    3 |   1.99% |  33.33% |
| 131  | Ruination          |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 132  | Water Spout        |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 133  | Toxic              |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 134  | Freeze-Dry         |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 135  | Aurora Veil        |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 136  | Seismic Toss       |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 137  | Bolt Strike        |    2 |   1.32% | 100.00% |
| 138  | Thunder Wave       |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 139  | Psychic Fangs      |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 140  | Court Change       |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 141  | Air Slash          |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 142  | Tail Glow          |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 143  | Energy Ball        |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 144  | Draining Kiss      |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 145  | Thunder Cage       |    2 |   1.32% |   0.00% |
| 146  | Lunar Dance        |    2 |   1.32% |  50.00% |
| 147  | Mach Punch         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 148  | Psycho Boost       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 149  | Dazzling Gleam     |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 150  | Fleur Cannon       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 151  | Throat Chop        |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 152  | Chilly Reception   |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 153  | Circle Throw       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 154  | Steel Beam         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 155  | Kowtow Cleave      |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 156  | Fusion Bolt        |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 157  | Grass Knot         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 158  | Nuzzle             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 159  | Brave Bird         |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 160  | Doom Desire        |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 161  | Mighty Cleave      |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 162  | Armor Cannon       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 163  | Solar Blade        |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 164  | Wish               |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 165  | Slack Off          |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 166  | Draco Meteor       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 167  | Haze               |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 168  | Secret Sword       |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 169  | Gigaton Hammer     |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 170  | Trick Room         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 171  | Upper Hand         |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 172  | Belly Drum         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 173  | Growth             |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 174  | Spirit Shackle     |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 175  | Switcheroo         |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 176  | Mystical Fire      |    1 |   0.66% | 100.00% |
| 177  | Cotton Guard       |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
| 178  | Stomping Tantrum   |    1 |   0.66% |   0.00% |
 
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