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[Standard] NOC Desktop Dungeons Mafia GAME OVER
- Thread starter Alpha Werewolf
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Sam, try reading my original post again. Notice how I said at the end of the next to last line:
That, to me at least, sounds wolfish. Sorry that I operate on higher wavelengths than your brain can pick up.
That, to me at least, sounds wolfish. Sorry that I operate on higher wavelengths than your brain can pick up.
God an NOC game take with no day limit can accumulate a lot of posts, I'm doing to my best to read through all of them now.
@Anyone wondering about my activity, I have exams coming up and I over-prepare a lot for mostly anything to do with school, I must have some Asian in me.
@Anyone wondering about my activity, I have exams coming up and I over-prepare a lot for mostly anything to do with school, I must have some Asian in me.
OH DAYUM
Seriously, can we have a deadline? We'll never get out of day 1 at this rate.
NEVERENDING MAFIA~
There was no "change of heart" there. I was pretty sure Galladiator was town the whole time, I just wanted to get the facts straight and get both of you to defend yourselves.
I pretended to be a little hostile with Galladaitor because I didn't want to look like I was buddying him because it seems buddying is frowned upon here. It's painstakingly obvious that Galladiator is town at this point because he can actually state his thought process and it's logical. He wanted to play cautiously, so he voted no lynch. Fine. Sam hounded him and wanted more info. Fine. Sam continued hounding obsessively and presented a pretty bad case against Spiffy in the meantime. After that, he went back to hounding Galladiator and Galladiator countered after I asked him to.
UncleSam used Spiffy's non=modkill to make it look like he was mafia. Sam's points were illogical, saying "Groshi got modkilled but Spiffy didn't so Spiffy's a mafia". Alpha Werewolf's reasoning was more than logical, which should have made people suspicious of UncleSam.
Galladiator's argument blew Sam's out of the water. Sam uses harsh words to make people countering him doubt their own argument. Notice how he dodged the question and called me an idiot when I asked for the slightest bit of reasoning.
Sam has been dodging accusations by attacking others the whole game. Sounds mafia-like, I know.
Let's lynch the scum and end this damn day.
I pretended to be a little hostile with Galladaitor because I didn't want to look like I was buddying him because it seems buddying is frowned upon here. It's painstakingly obvious that Galladiator is town at this point because he can actually state his thought process and it's logical. He wanted to play cautiously, so he voted no lynch. Fine. Sam hounded him and wanted more info. Fine. Sam continued hounding obsessively and presented a pretty bad case against Spiffy in the meantime. After that, he went back to hounding Galladiator and Galladiator countered after I asked him to.
UncleSam used Spiffy's non=modkill to make it look like he was mafia. Sam's points were illogical, saying "Groshi got modkilled but Spiffy didn't so Spiffy's a mafia". Alpha Werewolf's reasoning was more than logical, which should have made people suspicious of UncleSam.
Galladiator's argument blew Sam's out of the water. Sam uses harsh words to make people countering him doubt their own argument. Notice how he dodged the question and called me an idiot when I asked for the slightest bit of reasoning.
Sam has been dodging accusations by attacking others the whole game. Sounds mafia-like, I know.
Let's lynch the scum and end this damn day.
thats spiffy and yeti btw
fuck you detroitdipshit
What amazing eloquence. I commend you for your outstanding command of the English language.Fatecrashers said:
Can a member of the QC team approve this?
How the hell was my case against Spiffy "bad"? Please explain, because there was absolutely nothing wrong with it considering I was fucking proven right (aka I knew he was a non-villager, and most of the non-villagers are mafia). And considering Galladiator has not put up an argument whatsoever other than "I'm new so I am cautious" which is exactly how mafias play (by his own admission) and that "UncleSam is a dick". I am not dodging accusations considering I have responded to literally every accusation made against me by pointing out why it is false. Feel free to provide an example, you and Galladiator seem pretty short on those.
I "use harsh words to make people doubt their own arguments"...maybe, but how does that make me anything other than someone who points out shitty arguments (which are generally indicative of mafia)? And how does that make me someone who acts against the best interests of the village?
And how has anything I've said been "illogical" in the least? Seriously, you simply characterize things as what you perceive/want them to be without giving any specific examples. You simply generalize.
To be quite honest, I would be alright with lynching Detroitlolcat if people thought he was more suspicious than Galladiator at this point, they have both effectively given away they are mafia based on how they mindlessly defend each other.
Which is yet another reason both are mafia.
Oh and for Detroitlolcat, since he is literally too lazy to read through this thread I will link him to the post that goes through why Galladiator is a good lynch (since he asked me for reasoning and says I "refuse" to supply it...): click this (I assume you need my instructions for how to do this as well)? Now read it.
If these instructions are too difficult for you let me know.
If these instructions are too difficult for you let me know.
Could a few other people state their positions on Galladiator vs. UncleSam?
I forgot to respond to this earlier.
Quagsires, the reason I am agreeing with you thus far is that every post of yours has been fairly logical. As soon as I see something worth pouncing on, I will, trust me.
As for the 50%, that was what Galladiator said originally here.
to be honest, my feeling is that although detroitlolcat and galladiator look suspicious as fuck right now, this is only because they are stupid villagers cracking under the pressure from unclesam, and not because they are truly mafia
my gut tells me that this whole unclesam/galladiator debacle boils down to villagers crossfiring on each other, and we should be concentrating on people whose comments are suspiciously lacking in this thread, like Ditto, who has done nothing but keep his head down and bandwagon at convenient times
these are my thoughts at this very moment, they are subject to change after i've had some food
my gut tells me that this whole unclesam/galladiator debacle boils down to villagers crossfiring on each other, and we should be concentrating on people whose comments are suspiciously lacking in this thread, like Ditto, who has done nothing but keep his head down and bandwagon at convenient times
these are my thoughts at this very moment, they are subject to change after i've had some food
Okay, Sam. I see your argument for lynching Galladiator, and you're a little more logical than I at first gave you credit for. However, Galladiator is playing much more like a nooby, really cautious townie than a mafia/wolf. I don't want to get really involved in your fight.
Hopefully, Sam and Galladiator just keep going at it until enough people have voted for one of them to end the day, as they're probably not of the same group.
Hopefully, Sam and Galladiator just keep going at it until enough people have voted for one of them to end the day, as they're probably not of the same group.
First of all,
Unvote
Isaac's post seems like a somewhat reasonable defense.
UncleSam is reading his typical stubborn "beat you over the head" playstyle that we've grown to know and love, yet isn't really showing to be either mafia or town. He does seem "independent" in a sense though, which I like. Doesn't seem experienced in differentiating between idiocy and scumminess, but I would expect that from someone more familiar in a smogon-style mafia game than a mafia scum one, where we typically lynch off of logical evidence and off of argumentation over benefits vs costs of lynching one person over another, rather than honing in on psychological clues and that sort of thoroughfare. I like that he posts a lot though. Galladiator I do not have the pleasure of having meta against, which is unfortunate. Galladiator is reading as mad townie "Oh My God You Suck"ing UncleSam. I wouldn't expect a scum to REALLY omgus d1, although with NOC on smogon I guess you never really know.
@People asking others to "tell them why they are town," that's a really ambiguous question and not one that people are likely going to know how to answer as either mafia or town. There are better questions to ask, such as people's reasoning behind specific actions, not over a broad defense of their general strategy. We are not here to lynch inarticulate idiots, we are here to lynch mafia. The people who cannot answer the first question well are much less likely to be mafia with a bad answer than they are to just be dumb people and/or those not familiar with having some kind of general strategy. Try asking motivational questions behind specific actions, as that is more likely to give you an answer that can be used to indicate scummyness.
However, someone I do find suspicious is Ditto.
Vote: Ditto
Please explain why out of all of the reasons you could have had to vote someone, you immediately agreed with mine on Isaac.
Unvote
Isaac's post seems like a somewhat reasonable defense.
UncleSam is reading his typical stubborn "beat you over the head" playstyle that we've grown to know and love, yet isn't really showing to be either mafia or town. He does seem "independent" in a sense though, which I like. Doesn't seem experienced in differentiating between idiocy and scumminess, but I would expect that from someone more familiar in a smogon-style mafia game than a mafia scum one, where we typically lynch off of logical evidence and off of argumentation over benefits vs costs of lynching one person over another, rather than honing in on psychological clues and that sort of thoroughfare. I like that he posts a lot though. Galladiator I do not have the pleasure of having meta against, which is unfortunate. Galladiator is reading as mad townie "Oh My God You Suck"ing UncleSam. I wouldn't expect a scum to REALLY omgus d1, although with NOC on smogon I guess you never really know.
@People asking others to "tell them why they are town," that's a really ambiguous question and not one that people are likely going to know how to answer as either mafia or town. There are better questions to ask, such as people's reasoning behind specific actions, not over a broad defense of their general strategy. We are not here to lynch inarticulate idiots, we are here to lynch mafia. The people who cannot answer the first question well are much less likely to be mafia with a bad answer than they are to just be dumb people and/or those not familiar with having some kind of general strategy. Try asking motivational questions behind specific actions, as that is more likely to give you an answer that can be used to indicate scummyness.
However, someone I do find suspicious is Ditto.
Vote: Ditto
Please explain why out of all of the reasons you could have had to vote someone, you immediately agreed with mine on Isaac.
Also congrats to all of us for making this game already have more posts in it on the first day than most smogon mafia games ever get!
Well, a decision on the Galladiator vs. UncleSam fiasco is going to have to be solved now or later. I'd prefer now, so our inspector doesn't have to waste an inspection on either of them.
As for my opinion, I believe our best bet would be to lynch Galladiator. UncleSam will be much more valuable than Galladiator (no offense, you're just new and I don't know much about you.)
The main reason I am voting for Galladiator is because UncleSam asked for being able to speak during the night. All it does is help the village coordinate night actions and become more organized.
unvote
Vote: Galladiator
As for my opinion, I believe our best bet would be to lynch Galladiator. UncleSam will be much more valuable than Galladiator (no offense, you're just new and I don't know much about you.)
The main reason I am voting for Galladiator is because UncleSam asked for being able to speak during the night. All it does is help the village coordinate night actions and become more organized.
unvote
Vote: Galladiator
Guys, what does NOC mean btw? Also, didn't see Spiffy's mis-edit. I guess that's why you wanted to lynch him.
Now that he's claimed vigi, it's really easy. If he's fake, he dies tonight as real vigi shoots him. Really stupid of him to claim though if he IS the real vigi. He should've let Galladiator take all the heat rather then try to claim a power role that might result in his lynch. Only thing he did by claiming vigi is guaranteeing he dies sooner rather than later. Obv if he's alive by the next day, we have an easy lynch.
As for Galladiator and Detroit, Detroit really not making sense anymore. Proving x is ___ but voting for y...
Galladiator really does look like a first timer townie though who just wants to play and avoid getting lynched, but did it in the wrong way. I'm more inclinced to lynch Detroit though, because his posts don't have any logical flow, meaning he's a maf who just got caught redhanded or is also a really stupid townie.
Btw, just gonna throw it out there; Unclesam could easily be bussing Galladiator. It'd be very easy to do if anyone was maf to bus one of your more panicky members and earn the town's trust. (This will get Unclesam on me lol)
Now that he's claimed vigi, it's really easy. If he's fake, he dies tonight as real vigi shoots him. Really stupid of him to claim though if he IS the real vigi. He should've let Galladiator take all the heat rather then try to claim a power role that might result in his lynch. Only thing he did by claiming vigi is guaranteeing he dies sooner rather than later. Obv if he's alive by the next day, we have an easy lynch.
As for Galladiator and Detroit, Detroit really not making sense anymore. Proving x is ___ but voting for y...
Galladiator really does look like a first timer townie though who just wants to play and avoid getting lynched, but did it in the wrong way. I'm more inclinced to lynch Detroit though, because his posts don't have any logical flow, meaning he's a maf who just got caught redhanded or is also a really stupid townie.
Btw, just gonna throw it out there; Unclesam could easily be bussing Galladiator. It'd be very easy to do if anyone was maf to bus one of your more panicky members and earn the town's trust. (This will get Unclesam on me lol)
Oh, nvm, lol, if Spiffy is vigi, maf will keep him alive to put suspicion on him. I suggest he shoot one of the suspicious people like Detroit or Ditto if he re really is vigi. If he's not, real vigi shoot him tonight.
As for my vote, I'll vote Detroit for no logic/coherence in his posts. Vigi can get one of Spiffy/Galladiator/Ditto tonight.
Vote:DetroitLolcat
As for my vote, I'll vote Detroit for no logic/coherence in his posts. Vigi can get one of Spiffy/Galladiator/Ditto tonight.
Vote:DetroitLolcat
Really there's no proof whatsoever that there is a vigilante, so that's a moot point.
DetroitLolcat and Galladiator really are both pretty suspicious imo, but I don't see the argument against Ditto.
DetroitLolcat and Galladiator really are both pretty suspicious imo, but I don't see the argument against Ditto.
Isaac 2.0, you say the "real vig" will kill me tonight, but you also say that if I survive the night I'm a good lynch target the next day...
And everyone was going to roll me if I didn't stop anyway; I opted sooner rather than later to save time.
Before I forget, Bodyguard needs to protect me tonight.
And everyone was going to roll me if I didn't stop anyway; I opted sooner rather than later to save time.
Before I forget, Bodyguard needs to protect me tonight.