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[Standard] NOC Desktop Dungeons Mafia GAME OVER

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I feel like this has been going on for quite some time...It is Day 2. We're on Page 22. And we STILL have not decided on who should be officially lynched. So far, whenever we want someone to talk, we vote for them. Then, obviously, they give some sort of defense saying that they are not guilty and everything seems fine and dandy. What I'm getting at here is that this game is getting to be a hassle for me. I'd like to keep it going, but not at the pace we are currently having it at. If we plan to get something done, we should probably figure out a single lynch target, stick with it, and follow through. As the rules state, the day will keep going until a majority has been made. Of course, none of us has agreed on a single lynch target. We aren't going to get anywhere if we continue this. Each time someone has been probed, they were able to give a decently viable defense. So what I'm asking is that those who feel like they are most competent in leading this village to step up. From there, we can follow their decision for this lynch and if they fail, we lynch them the next day.

Can we do that? This is just a simple question. I am not in any way saying that I want to get to Night 3, I'm merely stating that this game is going to take months unless we do something about it.

Of course, we can keep going the way we are, and keep probing people, but so far, it hasn't done us any good...at least to the most of my knowledge. I'm keeping my vote for one more day and if nothing comes up I'll probably vote for Fatecrashers, just because he voted for me... ;)
 
Acklow said:
I feel like this has been going on for quite some time...It is Day 2. We're on Page 22. And we STILL have not decided on who should be officially lynched. So far, whenever we want someone to talk, we vote for them. Then, obviously, they give some sort of defense saying that they are not guilty and everything seems fine and dandy. What I'm getting at here is that this game is getting to be a hassle for me. I'd like to keep it going, but not at the pace we are currently having it at. If we plan to get something done, we should probably figure out a single lynch target, stick with it, and follow through. As the rules state, the day will keep going until a majority has been made. Of course, none of us has agreed on a single lynch target. We aren't going to get anywhere if we continue this. Each time someone has been probed, they were able to give a decently viable defense.
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This I can actually agree with, forcing people to talk isn't having much of an effect anymore, so we aren't really gaining anything from dragging this day on much longer.

So what I'm asking is that those who feel like they are most competent in leading this village to step up. From there, we can follow their decision for this lynch and if they fail, we lynch them the next day.
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This is just plain stupid though. Honestly it strikes me as a mafia plan to support a villager into a leader position, then dispose of him next lynch by blaming today's bullshit on him.

[/quote]Can we do that? This is just a simple question. I am not in any way saying that I want to get to Night 3, I'm merely stating that this game is going to take months unless we do something about it.[/quote]I agree with this entirely, let's get to night 2 before we start thinking about night 3.

Of course, we can keep going the way we are, and keep probing people, but so far, it hasn't done us any good...at least to the most of my knowledge. I'm keeping my vote for one more day and if nothing comes up I'll probably vote for Fatecrashers, just because he voted for me... ;)
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Probing people has done plenty of good, it just hasn't paid off yet. Once one mafia falls we should be able to look back on their positions vis-a-vis other people. This won't be an exact science since they'll have masked their positions, but there should be some clues.

As for people we want to see lynched, masterful and acklow are both good options. But there's plenty of people I'd be willing to look at.
 
what's the most surprising about this is a lone cycle has been going on for days on smogon.. and not because the hosts were too lazy to update 72 hours ago
AND people are active...

it's like the end of the world or something
 
billymills quote tags fail xD

im keeping my vote on acklow because of this:

So what I'm asking is that those who feel like they are most competent in leading this village to step up. From there, we can follow their decision for this lynch and if they fail, we lynch them the next day.
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so you want a village leader, but with a condition so harsh that it discourages anyone from stepping up

alriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighty then

also can people stop using excuses like 'too busy irl' and 'im a noob', it's getting old and im pretty sure the majority of them are not legitimate
 
Well I guess if you put it that way, then of course it looks very scummy. I never meant it in that kind of way though. I totally forgot to keep the inspector in mind while writing that post. Obviously it would be easier to inspect the "potential leader" first. So if I may "edit" my statement, so to speak, this would be how it would read:
"From there, we can follow their decision for this lynch. Inspect them. If they come up scum, we lynch them. If not, we continue unless someone objects."

And lol billymills
 
I honestly am against this Acklow lynch, what he says seems to be making sense, except for the part on lynching the leader if wrong. He seems to be a more experienced player when it comes to mafia, while Fangren has still not yet defended himself from why I'm voting for him. (Active lurking is such a scum tell in epic mafia, is it the same here?)

So, I'm asking everyone to consider lynching Fang.
 
Isaac 2.0 said:
(Active lurking is such a scum tell in epic mafia, is it the same here?)
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Nope. As evidenced by the fact that everyone has been pretty much ignoring your attempts at lynching me. Hell, for the most part I've even been ignoring it.

I'll agree that Acklow seems kinda suspicious to me right now, primarily because of his recent post about wanting to get behind a leader and then kill them if they screw up once as others have already commented on.

I'm not going to consider voting him, though, until we hear an explanation for UncleSam's odd absence from the thread.
 
Concerning my absence...

I've been out with APs and Prom stuff the last couple days, along with the fact that with the end of Fire Emblem mafia I stopped checking Circus as often.

I'll read through the like 100 posts since I stopped paying attention to this game I guess...
 
Fangren said:
I'll agree that Acklow seems kinda suspicious to me right now, primarily because of his recent post about wanting to get behind a leader and then kill them if they screw up once as others have already commented on.
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It was only a suggestion, nothing more. I am open to other plans on trying to get this game moving faster.
 
OK I think we should focus on the one thing we do know for a fact: the mafia killed Brammi. I am really amazed that people haven't focused on this more, because it is literally the one thing we all know.

Now, there are two possibilities I see: either Brammi was on to a mafia and they killed him because of it (which would imply the mafia is not very intelligent) or Brammi was seeming to trust someone who is in the mafia and so the mafia killed him to seem cleaner (which would imply the mafia is more intelligent). I think that we should not focus on people who Brammi had little to no relation with because then we would be accepting that the mafia killed him completely randomly, which seems unlikely.

So, looking back on his posts...this is what I notice, working backwards:
-He voted Fatecrashers after arguing with him
-He OK'd a lynch on Galladiator after initial hesitation (which seems meaningless now that we know what Galladiator was, but w/e)
-Voiced support for long days and analysis in response to HSA
-Wanted Spiffy to kill Fate or DLE, and wanted to lynch one of them or billymills as well
-Wanted to kill me off for reasons I'm not entirely sure of (what does "threat of GF" from post #283 mean?), and warned against posting lists of relations to players with little to no thought behind his reasoning (which by the way I think we should all still do, because I fail to see how it could possibly hurt the village at all).
-Wanted to lynch someone rather than no lynch
-Responded to Isaac concerning proper cop play, and voted billymills early on

So, in other words, Brammi had something to do with all of the following users (someone correct me if there are more), in relative order of strength of relation: Fatecrashers, Da Letter El, billymills, UncleSam (me), HSA, Isaac, Galladiator (deceased), Spiffy (mentioned in passing)

I feel we should focus on the players listed above, because unless we think the mafia killed at random then I'll bet at least one of them is mafia.

Since Spiffy and Isaac have claimed roles and I know I am a villager, I am going to ask for Da Letter El to post his thoughts on everyone in the game so that we can identify possible relationships between users and therefore possible mafia teamings.

In order to put some pressure on him...
Unvote
Vote: Da Letter El

Apart from what I mentioned above, which I admit is shaky grounds for a lynch on it's own, I would like him to explain his relative abscence from this thread and his peculiar behavior thus far (not contributing even when he does post, hopping on wagons, etc.).
 
or Brammi was seeming to trust someone who is in the mafia and so the mafia killed him to seem cleaner (which would imply the mafia is more intelligent)
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of course, the reverse of this statement is also true

ie

Brammi was seen to DISTRUST someone who is NOT in the mafia and so the mafia killed him to make that someone seem SCUMMIER (which would imply the mafia is more intelligent)

there's also the fact that Brammi seemed to know what he was talking about cos he was throwing around all this mafiascum jargon and shit, so it's entirely possible that the mafia killed him just because his presence made them nervous, and not because of any particular thing he's said

just thought these two possibilities were worth supplementing to unclesam's post
 
Just pointing out that J-man edited a while back and wasn't godkilled.

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Edit: Screw this, i'll give you guys one extra shot at lynching a mafia because i'm just that nice
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There was no timestamp because if you edit within a certain amount of time (idk what that time is but w/e) then the timestamp doesn't show up.

Doesn't change the fact that he edited.

I'll unvote masterful for now, but I'm not adding my vote to any single lynch just yet.
 
I thought brammi was a bad kill on the mafia's part (from the mafia's point of view), as no one really took him seriously, and he never really said much of any value. If anything, killing him would attract more attention to him.

More than likely, this was just a random kill.
 
come at me bro

yeah sorry i've been busy with scamming raikage and holidays, i'll start posting more and shit.

but unclesam, i have a thing about being lied about. i have never once jumped on any bandwagons; i've been distinctly anti-wagon on literally every one of my lynch votes. of all my votes, i was the first vote on every single one of them and gave at least some reasoning behind each of them (except maybe rickheg, i kinda forget but figured my reasoning was already in-thread). please do your research before blatantly lying.

but yeah, i have been a bit fluffy in most of my post content. mostly because i wanted to test the waters to see how people reacted to pretty blatant trolling, but also because trolling is fun as shit. i promised that i'd read through the thread and then never got to it, but now that big is done, i should have a bit of time to do that. i'll post serious thoughts by midnight est tonight.

i do agree with brammi though that i am not going to do a breakdown of literally every single player, though, as that just helps the mafia decide who to kill. i will make light of what i think about certain players who have been pressured, certain players who were let off the hook, etc, but i'm not handing the mafia all of my thoughts on every single player.

i'm sure that you would love my opinion to decide your night kills, though, wouldn't you unclesam?
 
I think the best way to decide if DLE should go tonight would be for someone to quote his previous votes to determine if he's been bandwagoning. If he hasn't been wagoning, then we have no reason to lynch him. If he has, then we need to lynch him for lying. Personally, if I had to take a guess, I would say he's town, but we need to look into DLE.
 
sorry, got bogged down in re-reading most of day 1 to refresh myself; got to page 6 before i realized i was exhausted. i'll reread tomorrow and post if my thoughts changed after some sleep, but i promised a post

unclesam needs to learn that tunnel vision isn't a good strategy for NOC and is usually counter-productive. I hate his playstyle for day 1 but am hard-pressed in deciding if it is scummy or not. it is certainly not pro-town play, but it is not exactly reeking scum either. he seemed quick to defend himself when he was pushing a spiffy lynch after the edit thing when no one was pressuring him (i'll quote posts later or something), which i didn't like. but i mentioned before how i like active people, and he certainly is that. not someone i'm going to immediately push a lynch on because i want him to keep talking.

i don't like reading idiocy, and don't really like the j-man lynch. he seems to be kind of an independent fool rather than some really scummy villager, although he certainly hasn't contributed much from what i've read. he mostly just seemed to get mad at billy when he voted him but didnt really read as being particularly scummy.

i found detroitlolcat pretty scummy for some reason but i forget what it was. i think it was something like just randomly jumping from someone being super clean to super scummy in a second, and i think that person was rickheg. i also didnt like how he just seemed to just agree with unclesam in basically everything it seemed, although this is really only going off of the bit i read today.

rickheg i just didn't like for not contributing much and seeming to play a backseat in all of the lynches. i know not everyone can be pushing a lynch, and some people inevitably are going to have to be considered on a bandwagon on any lynch, but i just really didnt like his play on d1. that's why i have my vote on him right now.

out of all possible lynch targets right now, i most like a rickheg/dlc lynch right now.

those are my thoughts as of right now.
 
so uhhh

anyone want to pick a likely scum suspect and lynch?? we sort of have no info to go on right now so our options are rand the best scum-shot or no lynch, unless we want the day to just keep going on
i don't want to rush things but if we let this go on too long, folks will lose interest x.x
 
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