[Standard] Redwall Mafia - Redwallers and Altair win!

Why would you curse the hosts for subbing you out when you went on a camping trip for a week? It's your fault you got subbed out, not theirs. I mean, the Redwallers probably would have won anyway, but losing our inspect for the first few nights could have been a big turnaround.
Actually, I was glad they subbed me out, because like I said I didn't have to worry about scrambling to send my night PM and contact you after you asked for contact. I was pissed off at MYSELF, because I wasn't even gone that long; I left before the mafia started, and came back the day N0 ended. However, I didn't tell anyone about my trip until after I got back and had been subbed out, so totally my fault there. Don't misunderstand me though, I have nothing against Spiffy for subbing me, and I'm sorry for causing the inconvenience, because you're right about losing the inspect early, it could have been important.
 

UncleSam

Leading this village
is a Forum Moderator Alumnus
I may as well give a few PMs I sent to the hosts as updates, since they contain about as much analysis as the postgame does:
So, here are a few recent chats I have had with the denizens of Redwall Mafia:
With the_angry_scientist:
<UncleSam> yo
<the_angry_scientist> hi
<UncleSam> alright
<UncleSam> ill cut straight to it
<UncleSam> i know you're not villy
<UncleSam> but notice im not lynching you
<the_angry_scientist> k
<UncleSam> because i want to make a deal
<UncleSam> but first you have to give me your role pm
<UncleSam> i know you are asmodeus poisonteeth
<the_angry_scientist> ok, gimme a sec to send
<UncleSam> but i will not make a deal unless you forward your pm now
<UncleSam> it should take no more than 30 seconds to forward
<UncleSam> any longer and i will assume you have altered it and the deal is off
<UncleSam> which means you have 10 seconds
<UncleSam> WHERE IS IT
<the_angry_scientist> sent
<the_angry_scientist> sorry for the delay, i have rather slow internet
<UncleSam> dude
<UncleSam> lol you are wolf
<UncleSam> i already knew that
<UncleSam> you didnt have to bother changing win condition
<UncleSam> anyway
<UncleSam> obviously i could lynch you anytime
<UncleSam> and i have access to nightkills also
<UncleSam> so your only chance is to work with me
<UncleSam> and hope the mafia bone the village
<UncleSam> so what do you say?
<the_angry_scientist> i already knew as much, aska also knew i wasn't village
<UncleSam> will you follow my instructions?
<the_angry_scientist> i'll work with you
<UncleSam> i would like all of your night results this far
<UncleSam> particularly inspections
<the_angry_scientist> n1 i was hooked
<UncleSam> so you didnt kill?
<the_angry_scientist> "you were too busy chasing a robber out of your house to do anything last night
<the_angry_scientist> "
<UncleSam> but n0?
<the_angry_scientist> no inspect or kill
<the_angry_scientist> n0 i inspected altair
<UncleSam> could i have the inspection?
<the_angry_scientist> or rather, assassinfred did
* the_angry_scientist has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by Klungo))
<UncleSam> you there?
<the_angry_scientist> sorry about that, i got d/cd
<UncleSam> no problem
<the_angry_scientist> as i was saying
<the_angry_scientist> altair is neutral who has to kill 3 rolenames, one was bunnymaster
<UncleSam> could you send me the result?
<the_angry_scientist> his kill only works on the roles in his win condition
<the_angry_scientist> just a sec
<UncleSam> ok
<UncleSam> this is good
<UncleSam> i will contact you with a kill target and inspection target
<UncleSam> after today's lynch
<the_angry_scientist> k
* the_angry_scientist has quit (Ping timeout)
...



Then I got this Role PM:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Spiffy
Dear theangryscientist,
You are Asmodeus Poisonteeth.

You are a vicious and poisonous snake that lives in a quarry not far from Redwall Abbey. You live only to kill and, sensing many creatures nearby, head over to Redwall Abbey in disguise.

Every night, you can PM Spiffy and Coronis with Night X - "Slither into USER’s pocket". You will stick your head into USER’s pocket and emerge with his role PM in your mouth.

Also, you can PM Spiffy and Coronis with "Night X - Bite USER". USER will die as soon as your poison teeth touch them.

Once in the game, you can PM Spiffy and Coronis with "Night X - Slither between fingers", You will be immune from the next day's lynch.

You can use all of your night actions on the same night, if you wish.

You also know that Hon Rosie is not in the game. Use this information however you see fit.

You are allied with yourself. You win if you survive.




PS: Obviously he is wolf, that is not his win condition

And Altair's:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Spiffy
Back at the quarry, you begin reading Altair's role PM.

Quote:
Dear Altair,
You are Sela the Fox.

You are a seer famous throughout all of Mossflower. A few years ago, your son, who happens to be Slagar the Cruel, abandoned you in a hole while he saved his own butt. He left you to rot. Cluny the Scourge also kidnapped you when you were younger, and Basil Stag Hare is just plain annoying. You have to kill all three of them. You’re just that badass.

Every night, you can PM Spiffy and Coronis with "Night X - Read USER’s palms". When you read USER’s palms, you will figure out his role name.

You can also PM Spiffy and Coronis with "Night X - Poison USER". You will pretend to share a beverage with USER, and slip some poison into the drink. USER will die and be found the next morning. However, USER will only die if he/she is a USER specified in your win condition.

Once in the game, you can PM Spiffy and Coronis with "Night X - Go into hiding". You will escape for the night, causing all kills that target you to fail.

You can use all of your abilities on the same night, if you wish.

You also know that Methuselah is not in the game. Use this knowledge however you see fit.

You are allied with yourself. You win if you kill Slagar the Cruel, Basil Stag Hare, and Cluny the Scourge. If any of these targets are killed by someone other than you, or lynched, you will receive a new win condition.


So ya, basically I am controlling the wolf entirely now.

And, convo with Altair about this:
<UncleSam> yo
<Altair> herro prease
<UncleSam> i am sorry
<UncleSam> you have been confirmed as a neutral
<Altair> oh
<UncleSam> i will not lynch you though
<Altair> well
<Altair> i am
<UncleSam> since you have no more village targets
<UncleSam> right?
<Altair> ill sure as hell admit that
<Altair> yeah
<Altair> think of me
<Altair> as a villager
<UncleSam> ya i guess
<Altair> that needs six less mafia dead
<UncleSam> and can kill
<Altair> nah
<UncleSam> well, kill his targets amirite?
<Altair> that only works on cluny and slagar
<Altair> yeah
<Altair> *shrug*
<UncleSam> also your role name inspects are legit
<Altair> yeah
<UncleSam> correct?
<UncleSam> ok
<Altair> by the way
<Altair> tas and i were working together
<UncleSam> ah
<Altair> i pretty much sold him out
<Altair> he has a lynchproof
<UncleSam> he did the same to you
<Altair> and full insect
<UncleSam> he gave me his role pm
<Altair> WHAT THE FUCK
<UncleSam> in full
<UncleSam> and your inspection
<Altair> that motherfucker
<UncleSam> so dont feel bad that you were about to rat him out :)
<Altair> oh
<Altair> welll what was i supposed to do aska told me to inspect him
<UncleSam> ya
<UncleSam> you couldnt lie obviously
<UncleSam> what i want to know
<UncleSam> is how the hell you two found each other
<Altair> he inspected me n0
<Altair> twas a randinspect
<UncleSam> oh right
<UncleSam> of course
<UncleSam> but
<UncleSam> he is wolf
<UncleSam> why would he tell you that
<Altair> tell me what
<UncleSam> that he was wolf
<UncleSam> i mean...you did know he was wolf right?
<Altair> yeah
<UncleSam> oh well
<Altair> because assassinfred trusted me
<UncleSam> i will have some targets for you
<UncleSam> this night
<Altair> good to know
<UncleSam> just be cool and follow my lynches
<Altair> also
<Altair> heres some info
<UncleSam> and dont talk to aska please
<Altair> since i already knew tas's role name
<Altair> i inspected zorbees
<UncleSam> ahhh
<Altair> hes like bella of brockhall
<UncleSam> and?
<Altair> clean
<UncleSam> oh
<Altair> trust him
<UncleSam> well, thats good
<Altair> yep
<Altair> zorbees so cool
<UncleSam> hoping for a mafia but oh well
<UncleSam> i MAY have a target for your kill tonight btw
...



So ya, zorbees is clean, which is good to know. He was the only BG claim anyway.

BUT...I am just getting started :) Here was my convo with Team Aether last night:
<Team_Aether> Hello.
<UncleSam> hey
<UncleSam> now, i know you are mafia
<UncleSam> and i wanna know
<UncleSam> why i should continue on this lynch instead of you
<Team_Aether> Huh?
<Team_Aether> Why am I mafia?
<UncleSam> you were alliance checked lol
<UncleSam> now, i am willing to make a deal with either mafia
<UncleSam> because i am in a bad position
<UncleSam> hello?
<Team_Aether> Yeah?
<UncleSam> i want to know if you are willing to work with me or no
<Team_Aether> Perhaps...
<UncleSam> i understand mafia/village partnerships are,,,
<UncleSam> unheardof
<UncleSam> but i think we can make it work
<UncleSam> btw, i dont even intend to control your night kills
<UncleSam> just your other abilities
<UncleSam> in exchange for not lynching you
<UncleSam> or your partners
<UncleSam> what do you say?
<Team_Aether> It depends on what you want me to do.
<UncleSam> well, for one, are you scourge or cruel?
<UncleSam> my alliance checker doesnt specify
<Team_Aether> Does it really matter which one I am?
<UncleSam> well, yes
<UncleSam> i believe you are scourge
<Team_Aether> Believe what you will
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> does your team have a silencer?
<Team_Aether> Perhaps.
<UncleSam> ibelieve you do
<UncleSam> im not sure about a kidnapper or not
<UncleSam> but im pretty sure about the silencer thing
<UncleSam> also, if you are scourge, i know three of you right now and none of the cruel so talk up please
<Team_Aether> Well, I am sorry, but I must go. We will have to continue this conversation some other time.
<UncleSam> lol
<Team_Aether> For real, I have to go :I
<UncleSam> when will you be on?
<UncleSam> later tonight?
<Team_Aether> No, not until tomorrow
<UncleSam> when?
<UncleSam> morning?
<UncleSam> evening?
<UncleSam> do you have even 5 minutes now?
<Team_Aether> Around... 4 PM
<Team_Aether> No
<UncleSam> well, tell exarius he can talk to me too :)
<Team_Aether> Whatever.
<UncleSam> unless you say he isnt your partner?
<Team_Aether> Perhaps he is, perhaps he isn't.
<UncleSam> lol
<Team_Aether> Kbye
<UncleSam> bye
...



So, he basically admitted to being mafia to me.

THEN, today with Exarius:
<UncleSam> we need to talk
<Exarius> can you wait a moment? getting something to drink
<UncleSam> ok
<Exarius> back
<UncleSam> sorry one minute please
<UncleSam> something else came up
<Exarius> lol
<UncleSam> ill brb
<UncleSam> ok back
<UncleSam> now, ill cut straight to it
<UncleSam> i know you arent village
<UncleSam> and that your role is false
<UncleSam> i am willing to make a deal with you though
<UncleSam> now then, are you scourge or cruel?
<UncleSam> i am fairly certain you are scourge
<UncleSam> based on what i have seen of roles thus far
<Exarius> a...ha?
<UncleSam> lol
<UncleSam> please dont play dumb
<UncleSam> this lynch is not finalized i may change it
<Exarius> small question: did you order a hook on me N0?
<UncleSam> no
<Exarius> alright
<UncleSam> i did not
<UncleSam> i had no clue you were mafia n0
<UncleSam> i have since seen alliance inspection results that say different
<UncleSam> or rather, my village sheriff checker
<Exarius> and I am supposed to believe that?
<UncleSam> sadly he cant confirm which mafia alliance you are on
<UncleSam> well maybe you would believe it if i lynch you?
<UncleSam> would that work with you?
<Exarius> I dunno
<Exarius> won't help the deal you talked about
<UncleSam> it wouldnt
<Exarius> bingo
<UncleSam> now then, i have three confirmed mafia
<UncleSam> and i believe all of them are on the scourge
<UncleSam> i am willing to make any deal with you guys if you can find me a cruel
<UncleSam> because right now they are raping the village AND you (since i know three of you guys)
<Exarius> so you want me to rat out my owns?
<UncleSam> no
<UncleSam> no need
<UncleSam> let me explain
<Exarius> go ahead
<UncleSam> i believe you guys have a safeguard and a silencer
<UncleSam> feel free to confirm/deny anything
<UncleSam> anyway
<UncleSam> i have need of both of these roles BADLY
<UncleSam> and
<UncleSam> you guys dont wanna get lynched
<UncleSam> i wanna lynch a cruel
<UncleSam> i dont even wanna control your night kills
<Exarius> lemme get this straight
<Exarius> IF we got silence and SG, you would let us go in exchange for use of those 2?
<UncleSam> yes
<UncleSam> in fact
<UncleSam> if you feed me two cruel names and two nights of those two roles
<UncleSam> i would let you off the next two lynches
<Exarius> and then start lynching off us?
<UncleSam> well maybe not quite then
<UncleSam> i would consider finishing off the other mafia/wolf first
<UncleSam> also
<UncleSam> this is basically your only chance
<UncleSam> hope i lose enough people
<UncleSam> the next two cycles
<Exarius> yeah
<UncleSam> and hope your last guy can meld in
<UncleSam> otherwise you would be losing guys fast and the other mafia will rape us both
<Exarius> who are you suspecting right now? You can give a big list, I won't confirm or deny anyone
<UncleSam> well, bish and team aether are your partners unless i am mistaken
<UncleSam> i have about 6 other serious suspects
<UncleSam> but im not gonna give them to you
<Exarius> why not?
<UncleSam> i would rather not unite the mafias
<UncleSam> if i can help it
<Exarius> lol
<UncleSam> anyway, all i need to hear is from you right now
<UncleSam> i am willing to align with either mafia honestly
<UncleSam> and destroy the other first
<Exarius> village aligning with mafia... very interesting...
<UncleSam> it is untested ground
<UncleSam> but i dont see as either of us have a choice
<UncleSam> btw i dont even expect you to not kill villagers
<UncleSam> you can kill who you want
<Exarius> that's a given, we are randing now
<UncleSam> i just want those two roles
<UncleSam> now then, i believe you are silencer
<Exarius> how's that?
<UncleSam> you were hooked n0
<UncleSam> no silence n0
<UncleSam> only person hooked who hasnt been cleaned
<UncleSam> thus, you are the silencer
<Exarius> could be, or could not
<UncleSam> either way
<Exarius> maybe silencer was idling?
<Exarius> I dunno
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> do you have a silencer and/or safeguard?
<UncleSam> bish claimed safeguard so i presume you have a safeguard
<Exarius> I can say we got at least one of those
<UncleSam> well i would like to know which one
<UncleSam> and if you dont have one the deal isnt off
<UncleSam> i would just want to use a different role of yours instead
<Exarius> note, I will not give out names to you
<UncleSam> thats fine
<UncleSam> i just want abilities
<UncleSam> no need to connect them to names
<UncleSam> also, as an fyi, if i die the deal is off and we start lynching you guys
<Exarius> yeah, I figured that much
<UncleSam> although no reason for you to kill me until you find my partner anyway
<Exarius> and note, if I die, I will still help out my guys, since it's allowed
<UncleSam> ya
<Exarius> so we give you 1, maybe 2 roles, you leave us off the lynching block for at least 2 days
<Exarius> does that include today=
<UncleSam> yes
<UncleSam> i will change the lynch
<UncleSam> from bish
<Exarius> so today, and tomorrow
<UncleSam> yes
<UncleSam> i want your safeguard and either silencer or something else
<UncleSam> but i am fairly certain you have a silencer
<Exarius> possible more, if we got you cruels?
<UncleSam> yes
<UncleSam> i will lynch cruels while you give me them
<Exarius> that deal is tempting....
<UncleSam> look i lost two important roles last night
<UncleSam> and i have no cruel names
<UncleSam> i am going to lose if i dont make a deal
<UncleSam> same with you
<Exarius> yeah, I know
<UncleSam> i know it is unheard of
<UncleSam> but i feel we can make it work
<Exarius> I got some conditions of my own though, if we do it
<UncleSam> of course
<UncleSam> we can get into more specifics
<UncleSam> first though, i want to know your nightroles
<UncleSam> i will require two of them a night
<UncleSam> you can use the other two as you see fit
<Exarius> the two you mentioned, we got them
<UncleSam> ok
<UncleSam> and i presume you have a hooker?
<Exarius> no, that's cruels
<UncleSam> inspect then
<UncleSam> oh well i wont require your inspect
<UncleSam> and i presume kidnapper
<UncleSam> you guys kidnapped me i take it?
<Exarius> I dunno
<UncleSam> ah
<Exarius> and c'mon, the hook is pretty obvious
<UncleSam> you guys targetted me though?
<UncleSam> with kidnapper
<UncleSam> i guess the other mafia may have a kidnapper too
<Exarius> you didn't order hook on me, still I get hooked. of course we don't have it
<UncleSam> ya well i knew they had it
<UncleSam> i wasnt sure if you guys did or not
<UncleSam> cause ive seen a bunch of hook results
<Exarius> well I have no idea, as I said
<UncleSam> still, if you guys dont have it, that tells me who is faking being hooked :)
<UncleSam> anyway
<UncleSam> i will require your silencer and safeguard every night
<UncleSam> and a cruel name
<UncleSam> those conditions you are willing to accept from me?
<UncleSam> i also will heaer your conditions obviously
<Exarius> the former: yes. Latter I cannot give now, because we don't have any
<UncleSam> ok
<UncleSam> i presume you dont wanna be hooked though
<Exarius> (note, we know village hooker)
<UncleSam> well i would prefer it if you kidnap him rather than kill him
<UncleSam> but i wont demand it
<UncleSam> anyway
<UncleSam> the key here is you guys getting me cruel names
<Exarius> I got it
<UncleSam> bish will be subbed out soon
<UncleSam> i suggest you talk to his subbee
<UncleSam> and explain the situation
<UncleSam> and have him call out for the cruel
<UncleSam> in the thread
<UncleSam> i will make it explicit not to finalize the lynch
<Exarius> leave it up to me
<UncleSam> if you calls out
<Exarius> but my conditions
<UncleSam> yes?
<Exarius> 1: the deal is off when you start lynching us (given)
<UncleSam> ya lol
<Exarius> 2: All contact you wish to do with us, you do through me
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> i cant guarantee that
<UncleSam> in a tight spot
<Exarius> if you believe a person is with me, then you leave it be and contact me
<Exarius> instead
<UncleSam> if team aether or bish is on
<UncleSam> and
<UncleSam> it is important to do something ASAP
<UncleSam> i may talk to them instead
<UncleSam> otherwise i will talk to you
<UncleSam> that ok?
<UncleSam> btw my deal is with you so you may as well confirm those two are your partners
<Exarius> well, if it's an extremely tight spot, but remember, you might talk to someone who isn't with me
<UncleSam> i know bish is or you wouldnt consider it
<UncleSam> team aether i am 90 percent sure of
<Exarius> well, I have a hunch every team has a SG. Could be me though
<UncleSam> ?
<UncleSam> what do you mean could be me?
<UncleSam> oh like, you arent sure?
<Exarius> yeah
<UncleSam> ok ya maybe
<UncleSam> anyway, is team aether your parner or not? i will lynch him if he isnt
<UncleSam> partner*
<UncleSam> you dont even have to give me a cruel name if he isnt
<UncleSam> this first day
<Exarius> remember what I said earlier about ratting?
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> im trying to make the deal easier for you
<Exarius> listen, I have been ratted out twice
<Exarius> and I definitely won't be one to do it now
<UncleSam> team aether admitted he was mafia to me
<UncleSam> last night
<UncleSam> he had to go though so i couldnt make a deal with him
<UncleSam> so you arent ratting anyone out
<UncleSam> bish i obviously knew before and you have admitted as such
<UncleSam> team aether is mafia, if you say he isnt your partner i will lynch him
<UncleSam> you only have to give me a cruel name tomorrow then and avoid backfire from the cruel tonight
<UncleSam> its in your best interest to confirm or deny this
<Exarius> unless spiffy made them op, the backfire is n3
<UncleSam> op?
<Exarius> overpowered
<UncleSam> oh you mean they kill odd nights
<Exarius> last night second kill was wolf
<UncleSam> no it wasnt
<Exarius> yes it was
<Exarius> or then you got a wild vigi going loos
<UncleSam> hmm alright then
<Exarius> loose*
<UncleSam> i am my village's vig lol
<UncleSam> when my partner dies
<Exarius> see?
<UncleSam> or vice versa
<UncleSam> so ya i guess it was wolf
<Exarius> yeah, I saw your PM
<UncleSam> anyway
<UncleSam> so you kill even nights i guess
<Exarius> yeah
<UncleSam> and you are scourge right?
<UncleSam> i mean i know bish is
<UncleSam> so i presume you are
<UncleSam> also you have been referring to "cruel" in a different person
<UncleSam> so ya ill take it you are scourge
<Exarius> I confirm TA is with me, rest you can go as you wish. He did PM me about you
<UncleSam> ok
<UncleSam> sadly this makes things harder
<Exarius> and note, I will be more active than TA
<UncleSam> but i figured as much
<UncleSam> ya i had a hard time getting him to come on
<Exarius> he has like 2-3 hour period he can be online
<UncleSam> well, that just means i will communicate through you
<Exarius> and btw, if we see you get the vigi, AND we get killed by something resembling the vigi, deal is off
<UncleSam> ya i know
<Exarius> which is what I was asking
<UncleSam> i cant guarantee the cruel randkills though
<UncleSam> or the wolf
<Exarius> that's given
<UncleSam> and obviously we cant kill cause my partner hasnt diedd
<UncleSam> died*
<Exarius> yeah, but if he dies
<Exarius> note, we are randoming our kills
<UncleSam> If he dies...
<UncleSam> i expect to be hooked/killed
<UncleSam> soon after
<Exarius> true
<UncleSam> so ya the deal isnt off per se
<UncleSam> if he dies
<UncleSam> but if i die it is
<Exarius> you aren't giving this shit to him?
<UncleSam> ?
<UncleSam> what shit?
<Exarius> this info
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> maybe
<UncleSam> i mean
<UncleSam> my twin isnt that active either lol
<Exarius> pro
<Exarius> anyways, that is all?
<UncleSam> so ya dont expect any deals with me to carry over
<UncleSam> ok ya
<UncleSam> get me a cruel name
<UncleSam> and i change the lynch
<Exarius> we try
<UncleSam> i have a few suspects already
<UncleSam> for cruel
<UncleSam> but i would like one of them confirmed
<Exarius> we'll see
<Exarius> also, take a look on Nook, would you?
<UncleSam> why?
<Exarius> well, he posted a lynch after your post
<Exarius> also, I assume you aren't trying to contact cruel now?
<UncleSam> no
<UncleSam> as in, no i am not trying to contact the cruel now
<UncleSam> i was never going to contact the cruel anyway since i know three scourge and no cruel
...



So ya, I know three of the Scourge for sure, and am controlling their Silencer (for godkills with Xyphang the persuader, who I think may well be Cruel btw), and the Safeguard (to protect myself from kidnaps). On top of this, I control the fact that the Scourge will not kill me tonight (if they do the deal is off), and I control the wolf's kill, AND I will use Nook's kill (I think he may be Cruel but I will test it out to see if he kills tonight), AND I have my silencer/persuader godkill, AND I control about 6 different inspectors tonight.

I will have Nook kill Kharozz probably (he is useless even if he isn't Cruel, he's so inactive), and I will godkill HD (rare told me he has no night ability, so he can't be post restriction enforcer, meaning Kharozz was faking it and they are Cruel partners in all liklihood). I may have Nook kill Team Aether tonight though, since Exarius was hooked n0 meaning he is very likely to be the silencer, and thus Team Aether is expendable (also no way Nook would kill a Cruel teammate). I will definitely use my godkill on either Kharozz or HD though. It also fits that HD absolutely refused to use his ability on HFB, suggested Kharozz, and then did not enforce a restriction last night. I will also tell Altair to try and kill whichever of Kharozz and HD I don't godkill, on the off chance they are Slagar the Cruel. Sadly, I may have to lynch altair tomorrow if I kill Slagar the Cruel on accident. Or I may lynch tas, who knows.

As for other mafia suspects, I suspect Aska is Cruel mole based on the fact he was practically begging for an inspect and his vote is only worth one in all liklihood.

It is also handy to know that the Scourge kill on even nights and the Cruel on odd nights. Right now, I am controlling literally every player in the game save for the four poor, lonely Cruel players, who will doubtless get found out sooner or later, even if they don't fall for the Scourge's attempts to contact them.

Also, I will tell HD that he will be persuaded "in order to prove a claim I have, I need to persuade someone I REALLY trust." I will also tell Xyphang that I will put the watcher on him, although...if aska is a Cruel also, I foolishly told him there was no village watcher, which could come back to bite me if this is the case.

Anyway, I will godkill HD tonight, have Nook kill Team Aether, be protected from kidnaps, and will have tas kill Kharozz. If everything goes as planned, I will lynch Xyphang tomorrow (I will have Fangren the inspector check him out, since if there is a silencer in one mafia there is a good chance the persuader is in the other mafia). I will also have my other inspectors like j-squared and rare555 keep cleaning people, particularly each other, because there is a decent chance at least one of them is bad (still too many inspect claims).

Village ganna roll.

I'm so fucking Pro :)
Then this...
Log with HD:
<HD> back
<HD> how do you like my post
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> i agree that i really want to lynch a confirmed mafia
<UncleSam> but other than that...i cant say i am lacking help leading the village
<HD> you haven't hit the rough spots yet
<UncleSam> hang on
<HD> however i meant as in just putting an idea in
<HD> k
<UncleSam> sorry
<UncleSam> now then
<UncleSam> i feel it is very odd that you didnt pick anyone n1
<UncleSam> but i guess you have gon eover that
<UncleSam> the one thing that is kinda damning here though
<UncleSam> is that this inspector has already gotten one cleaned person's ability correct
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<HD> it could me multiple things
<HD> like
<HD> hes mafia and proving his buddy
<HD> or simply an extremely lucky guess
<UncleSam> i guess
<UncleSam> but i gave him his target n0
<HD> also i have to change my first post of d1
<HD> or is it d2
<HD> where did my role pm post go
<HD> ok found it
<HD> didn't appear for some reason
<HD> does coolking know how to read or what
<HD> ?_?
<UncleSam> i dunno
<UncleSam> ok hang on
<UncleSam> btw
<HD> what
<UncleSam> IF you are a member of the cruel now would be a VERY good time to say so
<UncleSam> i can change this lynch if you are
<UncleSam> cause i need to hit a scourge today
<HD> if I am cruel
<HD> what would you want
<UncleSam> i would want to strike a deal
<UncleSam> not lynching you guys in exchange for you finding scourge members
<HD> hrm
<HD> finding as in killing
<HD> ?
<UncleSam> no
<UncleSam> just finding
<UncleSam> as in locating
<UncleSam> i wouldnt order your night kills
<UncleSam> you can kill who you want
<HD> and how would we be able to do that...?
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> call out in the thread to them
<UncleSam> if anyone answers tell me
<UncleSam> also
<UncleSam> i would be willing to go on this deal with others of your group also
<UncleSam> i presume kharozz is cruel also?
<HD> I'm going to have a host moment here
<UncleSam> he can be my contact should they retaliate
<HD> I can neither confirm nor deny
<UncleSam> ok
<HD> however if I die
<HD> assume that he is
<UncleSam> ok
<HD> now since Johann subbed in for Bish
<HD> it is extremely hard to trick him into striking a deal
<UncleSam> well
<UncleSam> try i guess
<HD> for the curel and scourge to work together
<UncleSam> try to get two names please
<HD> cruel*
<HD> I'll try
<HD> who are the confirmed mafians you have
<HD> other than me/kharozz/johann
<UncleSam> i would rather not say
<UncleSam> to avoid mafia alliances
<UncleSam> i want you to ally with me not them
<HD> is there one easier to convince than Johann
<HD> ie
<HD> less experience
<HD> than just tell me him
<UncleSam> not that i am sure of
<HD> that makes it extremely hard for me, you do know
<UncleSam> i know i am sorry
<HD> start a lynch on johann
<HD> but keep it under majority
<HD> to put pressure on him
<UncleSam> johann is small fries
<UncleSam> he is safeguard
<UncleSam> i want a better role if possible
<UncleSam> and i want him to feel secure enough to talk to you
<UncleSam> so i will put a temporary halt on your lynch until you can get some of his partner's names ok?
<HD> you're going out of your way to make it hard for me
<HD> but put my lynch under majority
<HD> and I'll try
<HD> and if I can't
<HD> make everyone no lynch
<UncleSam> fine fine
<HD> also, I thinking about killing aska tonight
<HD> since I can assure he isn't mine
<HD> assure you*
<UncleSam> ok
<UncleSam> i stopped the lynch
<HD> cool
<HD> and I will get to work
<UncleSam> great
<UncleSam> try to get as many names as possible
<UncleSam> also, role names or roles are helpful too
<UncleSam> say "i want to see some role pms for proof"
<UncleSam> that worked for me in lord of the flies
<HD> k

God I just got both mafias to mole the other for me.

SOOOOOO fucking pro :)
Now then, a few additional player comments on things I think Spiffy missed:
-ABT620 made his target Team Aether on my orders, not because I suspected Team Aether at that time but because I had randomly selected him to be a guinea pig test subject for a safeguard claim.
-DLE basically just talked to me about the game and other stuff, he didn't have a role so what did you expect him to do? Ironically, he was one of the most cleaned villagers during N2 (before I had confirmed all of the mafia), despite being a miller.
-Kharozz didn't "give away" HD-he appeared to have the posting restriction HD claimed he put on him. He did give himself away by being the only person in the game not to claim though.
-I found out HD based on Rare555's inspect, not "acting suspiciously".
-Xyphang claimed persuader, which was VERY suspicious, as the other mafia had a silencer. This allowed me to figure out he was mafia, which led me to Improbability (seriously mafias, don't visit your teammate's forum pages, it's a dead giveaway).
-J-Squared changed his inspect from zorbees to ABT620 at the last moment because I told him to inspect ABT620.
-I certainly can't remember telling Altair Bunnymaster was Basil Stag Hare, are you sure it wasn't Askaninask who did that? I was kidnapped D1 to D2 and I certainly wasn't giving out people's Role Name and Description claims during N0, although I can't be 100 percent sure I guess, since I don't remember every conversation I had, particularly back on N0.

Anyway, thanks for hosting Spiffy, hopefully the performance of the village in this game will convince people to try uniting villages N0 more often, as the reward is well worth the risk imo.
 
Reading those PMs, holy crap UncleSam. I knew you did a good job leading (what with the near sweep and everything), but wow... just wow. Good job with that (and good luck trying to pull it off again lol)
 

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Player placement: No particular reason I put him here.

Player performance: Didn't do much. Not that he could have, because UncleSam was sending in his Night action every night. -.- And would have become a one time vig if UncleSam were to die.
Yeah, that pretty much sums me up. We used my night action N0 to ferret out some very suspicious activity, but after that I was just along for the ride on the UncleSam Train.

I guess I should retire from mafia now. One game, one win.
 
Once US posted that he had another ability inspector (which I also claimed), I knew the Scourges were done for (especially since US already knew three of our four members). I was really hoping HD was village, making my claim seem less suspicious. I think I could have avoided detection for a little while longer, but we still probably would have lost.
 

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