It seemed wise before you made me doubt my actions.. As you said, If I switch then surely the appropriate counter will come in [Necturna for Empoleon and Infernape for Trevenant]. I don't see that as a wise move, even though I can order first and substitute for SE attacks and disruption, It is still unfavorable for my pokemon as they have the type disadvantage. YAS has mentioned that you personally say that Type advantage is very key to the battle [Even though at this point we both know that I will lose]. Wouldn't it be better for me to use Mandibuzz to set up, and then be able to send out a pokemon that can actually take on Mawile [Empoleon], which would possibly end up with me actually managing to KO one of your Pokemon?
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Starting ASB - Tutee Willow Wisps v Tutor JohnAdminSilver > Sub Frosty, Part 1
- Thread starter YellowAdminSilver
- Start date
Hmmm...
If you are saccing a mon to get matchups advantage, then you are (usually) not getting matchups advantage as I can simply do the same later with my own extra pokemon (in this case mawile). It is only worth it if the set up you are doing is really worth it. And I am not sure this is the case.
But still, 101 isn't to give you doubts, but to give you experience. In this case:
Play Rough - Thunder Punch - Play Rough
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps AOO
Hp: 32
En: 19
3/4/1/4/80
Other: -1atk, +2spe
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
DATA:
ACTION 1!
Mandibuzz used Taunt! (-9en)
Mawile used Play Rough! (-6en)
Hit: 36 (yes)
Crit: 9 (no)
Damage: (9+3+3+2-1.5)*1.5= 23.25hp
ACTION 2!
Mandibuzz used Bone Rush! (7en)
Hit: 74 (yes)
Hits: 2 (2)
Crit: 8 10 (no no)
Damage: (3*2)*1.5-2= 7hp
Mawile used Thunder Punch! (-6en)
Damage: (8+2-1.5)*1.5= 12.75hp
Mandibuzz fainted!
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps XOO
Hp: KO
En: KO
3/4/1/4/80
Other: -1atk, +2spe
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Willow Wisps sends out
Frosty orders
Willow Wisps orders
I Ref
If you are saccing a mon to get matchups advantage, then you are (usually) not getting matchups advantage as I can simply do the same later with my own extra pokemon (in this case mawile). It is only worth it if the set up you are doing is really worth it. And I am not sure this is the case.
But still, 101 isn't to give you doubts, but to give you experience. In this case:
Play Rough - Thunder Punch - Play Rough
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps AOO
Hp: 32
En: 19
3/4/1/4/80
Other: -1atk, +2spe
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Field effects:
Misty Terrain (1r)
Misty Terrain (1r)
Tutor YellowAdminSilver BAO
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 53
En: 55
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
Hp: 53
En: 55
3/3/1/3/50
Other:
Item: None
DATA:
ACTION 1!
Mandibuzz used Taunt! (-9en)
Mawile used Play Rough! (-6en)
Hit: 36 (yes)
Crit: 9 (no)
Damage: (9+3+3+2-1.5)*1.5= 23.25hp
ACTION 2!
Mandibuzz used Bone Rush! (7en)
Hit: 74 (yes)
Hits: 2 (2)
Crit: 8 10 (no no)
Damage: (3*2)*1.5-2= 7hp
Mawile used Thunder Punch! (-6en)
Damage: (8+2-1.5)*1.5= 12.75hp
Mandibuzz fainted!
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps XOO
Hp: KO
En: KO
3/4/1/4/80
Other: -1atk, +2spe
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Tutor YellowAdminSilver BAO
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Willow Wisps sends out
Frosty orders
Willow Wisps orders
I Ref
Last edited:
The end of the round leaves me slightly confused, but I am assuming that there is no longer any Misty Terrain?
I'll send out Trevenant, holding nothing.
I'll send out Trevenant, holding nothing.
Apologies for the delay. No counterswitch.
I made a mistake, because I had not even thought of you switching out Mawile as a possibility. So, obviously the set up was not worth it.
Earthquake | Earthquake | Earthquake
Earthquake | Earthquake | Earthquake
Apart from switching there were other means to null the setup. And I could just play with it anyway.
It usually isn't worth it.
Tutee Willow Wisps XOO
*Trevenant*
Hp: 100
En: 100
4/3/4/3/48
Other:
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
ACTION 1!
Infernape used Fire Blast! (-7en)
Crit:6
Effect:9
Damage: (11+3+1.5)*1.5= 23.25hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-7en)
Crit:1 (yes)
Damage: (10+3+1.5)*1.5= 21.75hp
ACTION 2!
Infernape used Fire Punch! (-5en)
Crit:11
Effect:7
Damage: (8+2+3+1.5)*1.5= 21.75hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-11en)
Crit:5
Damage: (10+1.5)*1.5= 17.25hp
ACTION 3!
Infernape used Fire Blast! (-7en)
Crit:13
Effect:9
Damage: 23.25hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-7en)
Crit:3
Damage: 17.25hp
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps XAB
*Trevenant*
Hp: 32
En: 67
4/3/4/3/48
Other:
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Frosty
I Ref
It usually isn't worth it.
Tutee Willow Wisps XOO
*Trevenant*
Hp: 100
En: 100
4/3/4/3/48
Other:
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Tutor YellowAdminSilver BAO
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
DATA:
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 100 / 75
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
ACTION 1!
Infernape used Fire Blast! (-7en)
Crit:6
Effect:9
Damage: (11+3+1.5)*1.5= 23.25hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-7en)
Crit:1 (yes)
Damage: (10+3+1.5)*1.5= 21.75hp
ACTION 2!
Infernape used Fire Punch! (-5en)
Crit:11
Effect:7
Damage: (8+2+3+1.5)*1.5= 21.75hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-11en)
Crit:5
Damage: (10+1.5)*1.5= 17.25hp
ACTION 3!
Infernape used Fire Blast! (-7en)
Crit:13
Effect:9
Damage: 23.25hp
Trevenant used Earthquake! (-7en)
Crit:3
Damage: 17.25hp
- - -
Tutee Willow Wisps XAB
*Trevenant*
Hp: 32
En: 67
4/3/4/3/48
Other:
Zic (M)
Typing: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent / Defiant
HP/EN: 66 / 43
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 3 / 60
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 19
Buffs: N/A
De-buffs: Misses his trainer
Tutor YellowAdminSilver BAO
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 44/ 56
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Willow Wisps
Tiger Lillian (F) @ Amulet Coin
Typing: Grass/Ghost
Abilities: Forewarn / Telepathy
HP/EN: 83 / 45
Stats: 5 / 4 / 4 / 4 / 81
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 3 / 23
Buffs: +1CC
De-buffs: N/A
*Mawile*
Hp: 46
En: 43
3/3/1/3/50
Other: Taunted (4a)
Item: None
Faia (M) @ Exp. Share
Typing: Fire/Fighting
Abilities: Blaze / Iron Fist
HP/EN: 44/ 56
Stats: 4 / 3 / 4 / 2 / 125
SC/WC/BRT: 3 / 4 / 21
Buffs: +18% Acc / +1MC
De-buffs: N/A
Frosty
I Ref
I'll forfeit. My apologies for the delay.
OK.
YellowAdminSilver : Nothing, since non-requested subref
Willow Wisps : Nothing, since DQ
Frosty : I really don't want to calc prizes here (using someone else's pokemon -_-) so you can go ahead and put nothing as well
Let me know if you intend to continue your mentorship in any way.
YellowAdminSilver : Nothing, since non-requested subref
Willow Wisps : Nothing, since DQ
Frosty : I really don't want to calc prizes here (using someone else's pokemon -_-) so you can go ahead and put nothing as well
Let me know if you intend to continue your mentorship in any way.