Steelix (Curse)+

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[SET]
name: Curse
move 1: Curse
move 2: Gyro Ball
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Explosion
item: Occa Berry / Leftovers
ability: Sturdy
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With Curse boosting Steelix's mediocre Attack stat and raising its Defense stat to unseen levels, this set has the potential to wreak havoc upon your opponents. Gyro Ball is for STAB and is powered up by both the Attack boost and the Speed cut Curse provides. Earthquake is there as a secondary STABed attack and is a must because it hits almost everything for good damage after an Attack boost. Finally, Explosion is a last a resort move to take out just about anything not resisting or immune to it. Stone Edge can replace any of the moves listed above and, when paired with Earthquake, it provides the classic Rock-Ground combo we all love.</p>

<p>The boosts Curse provides allow Steelix to forgo EV investment in Defense. It is recommended to just max HP and Special Defense with a boosting nature in hopes of making Steelix more durable from the Special side. Remaining EVs can be dumped into Attack to add a little punch to Steelix's moves.</p>

<p>The item choice depends on what you prefer, Occa Berry stops Fire attacks from ruining Steelix's sweep, while Leftovers provides a nice steady amount of health recovery during set up. Other options include Chople Berry to take on the numerous heavy hitting Fighting-types that frequent UU and, to a lesser extent, Passho Berry to combat the Water-types who will no doubt switch in to threaten an end to Steelix's sweep.</p>

[SET]
name: Curse + Chesto
move 1: Curse
move 2: Rest
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Earthquake
item: Chesto Berry
ability: Sturdy
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Steelix with Curse and Chesto Berry is a big threat to any team, which usually takes it out slowly. Curse boosts its Attack and incredible Defense sky-high, whilst lowering its Speed to maximize Gyro Ball's power. Rest in conjunction with Chesto Berry means you effectively get a free HP restoration, as well as ridding yourself of any status. If the opponent slowly decreases Steelix's HP, Steelix can just Curse until it needs to Rest, and then effectively rip through teams with its stat boosts.</p>

<p>The EVs prioritize HP and Special Defense, to maximise any chance of Steelix living through special hits, due to it not boosting Special Defense. A non-boosted Timid Ninetales can only manage a maximum of 90% with its Fire Blast, meaning that whatever happens, it loses - if it decides to Hypnosis you, the Chesto Berry will kick into action so you can Earthquake it. With the particular Fire Blast never OHKOing, if Ninetales does Fire Blast you can just OHKO it. This Steelix works excellently at taking out common answers to it, such as Ninetales and Sandslash.</p>

Thanks have a nice day ^^.

Special thanks to Twash for writing the Curse + Chesto set above.
 
Roar Goes Pretty good with the curse set. I run Curse,Gyro ball, EQ and Roar works pretty good with spikes support. Pump spdef EVs and Crunch could be an option For Claydols expecting EQs, Gyro Ball even hits them decently after a curse or two minus speed nature of course heres a calculation for plus 1 crunch on max max claydol after one boost max attack on Steelix. Also sorry for my terrible punctuation.

+1 Crunch
Damage: 47.22% - 55.25%

:nerd: maybe expert belt?
 
Just to let you know I am testing a Curse / Rest / Gyro Ball / Earthquake @ Chesto Berry set too. I always loved using Chesto + Rest. Will edit in what I think once done (taking ages to find UU matches).
 
Ice Fang and Stone Edge are mediocre options to consider. Otherwise what you've mentioned is what I've used.
 
I've used:

Steelix @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy nature (+SpD, -Spe)
~Curse
~Rest
~Gyro Ball
~Earthquake

It's been awesome. Heck, it takes 76.27% - 89.83% from non-boosted Ninetales Fire Blast. If your full HP + Chesto, Ninetales comes in and will lose if non-boosted. Chesto keeps you safe from Hypnosis. It's worked great so far! It's really quite useful.

EDIT: Here is a log of it in play for any doubters. I have tried the other sets, but I prefer this one. Don't ask why - I just do. (I always loved ChestoRest anyway :P). Bolded parts = most important.

Code: 
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
B.O.E. sent out Drifblim (lvl 100 Drifblim ?).
Twash_Man sent out Victreebel (lvl 100 Victreebel ?).
Victreebel used Sleep Powder.
Drifblim fell asleep!
Drifblim is fast asleep!
---
B.O.E. switched in Magcargo (lvl 100 Magcargo ?).
Twash_Man switched in Primeape (lvl 100 Primeape ?).
---
B.O.E. switched in Drifblim (lvl 100 Drifblim ?).
Primeape used Close Combat.
It doesn't affect Drifblim...
---
Twash_Man switched in Claydol (lvl 100 Claydol).
Drifblim is fast asleep!
---
Drifblim is fast asleep!
Claydol used Calm Mind.
Claydol's special attack was raised.
Claydol's special defence was raised.
---
Drifblim woke up!
Drifblim used Trick.
Drifblim lost its burden!
Drifblim obtained Leftovers!
Claydol obtained Choice Scarf!
Claydol used Calm Mind.
Claydol's special attack was raised.
Claydol's special defence was raised.
---
Choice Scarf prohibits the use of this move.
Twash_Man switched in Primeape (lvl 100 Primeape ?).
Drifblim used Substitute.
Drifblim lost 25% of its health.
Drifblim made a substitute!
Drifblim's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drifblim restored 6% of its health.
---
Drifblim used Shadow Ball.
Primeape lost 65% of its health.
Primeape used Ice Punch.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Drifblim!
Drifblim's substitute faded!
Drifblim's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drifblim restored 6% of its health.
---
Drifblim used Shadow Ball.
A critical hit!
Primeape lost 35% of its health.
Twash_Man's Primeape fainted.
Drifblim's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drifblim restored 6% of its health.
---
Twash_Man switched in Kabutops (lvl 100 Kabutops ?).
Drifblim used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
Kabutops lost 100% of its health.
Twash_Man's Kabutops fainted.
Drifblim's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drifblim restored 6% of its health.
---
Twash_Man switched in Victreebel (lvl 100 Victreebel ?).
Victreebel used Sleep Powder.
Drifblim fell asleep!
Drifblim is fast asleep!
Drifblim's leftovers restored its health a little!
Drifblim restored 0% of its health.
---
[B]B.O.E. switched in Jynx (lvl 100 Jynx ?).
Jynx foresaw Leaf Storm!
Twash_Man switched in Steelix (lvl 100 Steelix ?).
---
B.O.E. switched in Sandslash (lvl 100 Sandslash ?).
Steelix used Gyro Ball.
Sandslash lost 19% of its health.
---
A.A has entered the room.
Sandslash used Night Slash.
It's not very effective...
Steelix lost 5% of its health.
Steelix used Curse.
Steelix's speed was lowered.
Steelix's attack was raised.
Steelix's defence was raised.
---
Sandslash used Swords Dance.
Sandslash's attack was sharply raised.
Steelix used Curse.
Steelix's speed was lowered.
Steelix's attack was raised.
Steelix's defence was raised.
---
Sandslash used Swords Dance.
Sandslash's attack was sharply raised.
Steelix used Curse.
Steelix's speed was lowered.
Steelix's attack was raised.
Steelix's defence was raised.
---
A.A: hey twash
Sandslash used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Steelix lost 49% of its health.
Steelix used Curse.
Steelix's speed was lowered.
Steelix's attack was raised.
Steelix's defence was raised.
---
Twash_Man: Hello.
Sandslash used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Steelix lost 42% of its health.
Steelix used Rest.
Steelix fell asleep!
Steelix's Chesto Berry cured its Sleep!
Steelix restored 96% of its health.
---
Sandslash used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Steelix lost 41% of its health.
Steelix used Gyro Ball.
Sandslash lost 81% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Sandslash fainted.
---
A.A: GL
B.O.E. switched in Magcargo (lvl 100 Magcargo ?).
A.A: not that you need it lol
Magcargo used Lava Plume.
It's super effective!
Steelix lost 41% of its health.
Steelix was burned!
Steelix used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Magcargo lost 100% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Magcargo fainted.
Steelix was hurt by its burn!
Steelix lost 12% of its health.
---
Twash_Man: yay burn
A.A: no offence B.O.E
B.O.E. switched in Muk (lvl 100 Muk ?).
Muk used Shadow Sneak.
It's not very effective...
Steelix lost 1% of its health.
Steelix used Rest.
Steelix fell asleep!
Steelix restored 95% of its health.
---
Muk used Curse.
Muk's speed was lowered.
Muk's attack was raised.
Muk's defence was raised.
Steelix is fast asleep!
---
Muk used Curse.
Muk's speed was lowered.
Muk's attack was raised.
Muk's defence was raised.
Steelix is fast asleep!
---
Muk used Curse.
Muk's speed was lowered.
Muk's attack was raised.
Muk's defence was raised.
Steelix woke up!
Steelix used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Muk lost 74% of its health.
Muk's Black Sludge restored a little health!
Muk restored 6% of its health.
---
Muk used Brick Break.
It's super effective!
Steelix lost 19% of its health.
Steelix used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Muk lost 32% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Muk fainted.
---
B.O.E. switched in Drifblim (lvl 100 Drifblim ?).
Drifblim is fast asleep!
Steelix used Gyro Ball.
Drifblim lost 100% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Drifblim fainted.
---
B.O.E. switched in Jynx (lvl 100 Jynx ?).
Jynx foresaw Gyro Ball!
Jynx used Substitute.
Jynx lost 25% of its health.
Jynx made a substitute!
Steelix used Gyro Ball.
It's super effective!
The substitute took damage for Jynx!
Jynx's substitute faded!
Jynx's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jynx restored 6% of its health.
---
Jynx used Substitute.
Jynx lost 25% of its health.
Jynx made a substitute!
Steelix used Earthquake.
The substitute took damage for Jynx!
Jynx's substitute faded!
Jynx's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jynx restored 6% of its health.
---
Jynx used Ice Beam.
Steelix lost 43% of its health.
Steelix used Gyro Ball.
It's super effective!
Jynx lost 62% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Jynx fainted.
---
B.O.E. switched in Hitmontop (lvl 100 Hitmontop ?).
Hitmontop used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Steelix lost 38% of its health.
Twash_Man's Steelix fainted.[/B]
---
Twash_Man: aaw
Twash_Man switched in Cacturne (lvl 100 Cacturne ?).
Cacturne used Seed Bomb.
Hitmontop lost 70% of its health.
Hitmontop used Bulk Up.
Hitmontop's attack was raised.
Hitmontop's defence was raised.
---
Hitmontop used Mach Punch.
It's super effective!
Cacturne lost 100% of its health.
Twash_Man's Cacturne fainted.
---
Twash_Man switched in Victreebel (lvl 100 Victreebel ?).
Victreebel used Leaf Storm.
A critical hit!
Hitmontop lost 30% of its health.
B.O.E.'s Hitmontop fainted.
Twash_Man wins!
Twash_Man: gg
B.O.E.: gg
B.O.E. has left the room.

If you want to do 2 sets perhaps? I'm willing to write up this one :]
 
Unfortunately, according to Doug's stats for UU, a plurality (45.1%) of Ninetales have Life Orb, which boosts Fire Blast to an 87% OHKO.
 
I'm liking the ChestoRest combo Twash. You're more than welcome to write it up separately if you want then we can just edit it in the op.

To be honest Umb I'm not too sure about a RestTalk set just because you lose too much coverage if you don't pack EQ. But I'll be sure to give the set a try.

Thanks have a nice day ^^.
 
In OU I've extensively used Curse, Rest, Gyroball, and Firefang with Chesto 252 HP and 252 SpD with SpD boosting nature.

I just think you should put Fire Fang as an option because it gets rid of Scizor and other steels, especially the levitating ones.
 
diablojd05 said:
In OU I've extensively used Curse, Rest, Gyroball, and Firefang with Chesto 252 HP and 252 SpD with SpD boosting nature.

I just think you should put Fire Fang as an option because it gets rid of Scizor and other steels, especially the levitating ones.
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There's no need to bother with Scizor in UU though, which is where Steelix is right now. Fire Fang should only get a mention in Other Options really.
 
Yeah, Gyro Ball does not have enough PP to pull that kind of a set off...and it's also a Steel-type move.

I do like the Chesto Rest idea. There are so many sets that are equally as viable on Curselix, but none of them really stand out as the best. Making a set for the analysis is going to be kinda tough, so I'll help you out: move1 is Curse. There! thats 25% of the work!! :D
 
Aqua Tail and Payback would probably hit Claydol harder than Crunch would.

Also, I don't see much use of Rest on a Curser TBH. Usually it's designed to switch in on a resist, Curse when the Opponant switches and fire off something strong. Steelix lacks anything to hit Leafeon and other Roarers with, and it's too slow to Roar them back.

I'd say
~Curse
~Aqua Tail / Payback
~Gyro Ball
~Earthquake

Aqua Tail and Earthquake are hitting Ninetales hard on the swtch if you EV it offencively anyway. I see your biggest threats being Leafeon and Weezing.
 
Here is the Curse + Chesto set! :)

[SET]
name: Curse + Chesto
move 1: Curse
move 2: Rest
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Earthquake
item: Chesto Berry
ability: Sturdy
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Steelix with Curse and Chesto Berry is a bit threat to any team which usually takes it out slowly. Curse boosts its Attack and incredible Defense sky-high, whilst lowering its Speed to maximise Gyro Ball's power. Rest in conjunction with Chesto Berry means you effectively get a free HP restoration, as well as ridding yourself of any status. If the opponent slowly decreases Steelix's HP, Steelix can just Curse until it needs to Rest, and then effectively rip through teams with its stat boosts.</p>

<p>The EVs prioritize HP and Special Defense, to maximise any chance of Steelix living special hits, due to it not boosting Special Defense. A non-boosted Timid Ninetales can only manage a maximum of 90% with its Fire Blast, meaning whatever happens it loses - if it decides to Hypnosis you the Chesto Berry will kick into action so you can Earthquake it. With the particular Fire Blast never OHKOing, if Ninetales does Fire Blast you can just OHKO it. This Steelix works excellently at taking out common answers to it, such as Ninetales and Sandslash.</p>
 
Aqua Tail from what I've used it is better for the Choice Band set. Ice Fang or Stone Edge work best alongside Steel / Ground combo, preffereably Stone Edge.
 
Twash_Man said:
Here is the Curse + Chesto set! :)

[SET]
name: Curse + Chesto
move 1: Curse
move 2: Rest
move 3: Gyro Ball
move 4: Earthquake
item: Chesto Berry
ability: Sturdy
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Steelix with Curse and Chesto Berry is a big threat to any team, which usually takes it out slowly. Curse boosts its Attack and incredible Defense sky-high, whilst lowering its Speed to maximize Gyro Ball's power. Rest in conjunction with Chesto Berry means you effectively get a free HP restoration, as well as ridding yourself of any status. If the opponent slowly decreases Steelix's HP, Steelix can just Curse until it needs to Rest, and then effectively rip through teams with its stat boosts.</p>

<p>The EVs prioritize HP and Special Defense, to maximise any chance of Steelix living through special hits, due to it not boosting Special Defense. A non-boosted Timid Ninetales can only manage a maximum of 90% with its Fire Blast, meaning that whatever happens, it loses - if it decides to Hypnosis you, the Chesto Berry will kick into action so you can Earthquake it. With the particular Fire Blast never OHKOing, if Ninetales does Fire Blast you can just OHKO it. This Steelix works excellently at taking out common answers to it, such as Ninetales and Sandslash.</p>
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chesto rest o_o retro
 
I personally don't like Curse Steelix at all. I prefer my Curse users to have good special defense (Snorlax, Slowking) but whatever. Servant, for the item, I would suggest that the options be Occa berry / Chople Berry / Leftovers and a mention of Shed Shell in Other Options if you are worried about Probopass since you can't Roar it out on the predicted Magnet Rise like the standard set can. Also, I don't have any stats to back this up, but I've seen a good number of people run the Passho Berry (water resist) on Steelix. Since it seems popular, I think it would be appropriate for the analysis to include a sentence or two on why the Passho Berry is a poor choice for Steelix since it can't do anything to bulky waters after it has taken the Surf. With an Occa is can survive the fire attack from Ninetales / Camerupt and OHKO back with Earthquake. It doesn't work that way on bulky waters. A small note of this would be nice to end the use of the Passho Berry on Curse Steelix because it is terrible.
 
Suggesting Explosion as a possibility somewhere (maybe not a main option, but it's viable), as with a +Sp. Def nature it can take one of just about anything, and a +1 Explosion will hurt if you're out of options. Or just use it as a last-ditch after you've already killed something.
 
Thanks everyone anyways updated the OP with the standard 3 moves Curse Steelix set. Thanks again have a nice day ^^.
 
Servant said:
[SET]

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With Curse boosting Steelix's mediocre Attack stat and raising its Defense stat to unseen levels, this set has the potential to wreak havoc upon your opponents. Gyro Ball is for STAB and is powered up by both the Attack boost (no comma) and the Speed cut Curse provides. Earthquake is there as a secondary STABed attack and is a must because it hits almost everything for good damage after an Attack boost. Finally, Explosion is a last a resort move to take out just about anything not resisting or immune to it. Stone Edge can replace any of the moves listed above and, when paired with Earthquake, it provides the classic Rock-Ground combo we all love.</p>

<p>The boosts Curse provides allow Steelix to forgo EV investment in Defense. It is recommended to just max HP and Special Defense with a boosting nature in hopes of making Steelix more durable from the Special side. Remaining EVs can be dumped into Attack to add a little punch to Steelix's moves.</p>

<p>The item choice depends on what you prefer, Occa Berry stops Fire attacks from ruining Steelix's sweep, while Leftovers provides a nice steady amount of health recovery during set up. Other options include Chople Berry to take on the numerous heavy hitting Fighting-types that frequent UU and, to a lesser extent, Passho Berry to combat the Water-types who will no doubt switch in to threaten an end to Steelix's sweep.</p>
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Just about the only thing Curse Rest Sleep Talk Steelix has going for it is there is no pokemon immune to steel, unlike our common OU single attack boosters like Suicune/Swampert.

I love the Chesto Rest set, what is really disappointing about Steelix is his low attack stat, which is compensated with Curse, but he would be forced out in OU.
 
I used a crocune-like set,

252 HP / 252 Sp. Def / 4 Def.
Sassy.
0 Speed.
@ Occa Berry.
- Curse.
- Rest.
- Sleep Talk.
- Curse.

Works pretty well :) I used it together with ScarfTrio and Magnezone, to rid of of those Heatrans/Scizors and other things that counter it.
 
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