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Suicune Discussion
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That's not a good reason for it to suck. One move doesn't make or break a Pokémon. Surf is there for a reason.
I'm pretty sure it just was an example.
While CroCune may be an excellent set, I feel some what insulted by this.
Sure it's not without it's flaws in this new meta game, but come on, in late gen 4 OU this was a fabulous set. I think it has a lot of potential in UU.
hydro pump misses, and then they outspeed you? lolwut.
Until Drought is banned you're way better using Ice Beam since at least you destroy the grass types that could treathen you, at max def the deer doesn't OHKO you with horn leach and ice beam will be a cleam OHKO, had to change since scald/surf is just to week in the current UU
PS: offensive suicune it IS possible, it's actually a effective set since you can actually easily survive priority and some attacks, and with the surprise factor playing in your favor then you have something that could sweep (like offensive milotic, nobody expects it since everyone used defensive sets, still drought is bad for suicune and fellow water types)
PS: offensive suicune it IS possible, it's actually a effective set since you can actually easily survive priority and some attacks, and with the surprise factor playing in your favor then you have something that could sweep (like offensive milotic, nobody expects it since everyone used defensive sets, still drought is bad for suicune and fellow water types)
Suicune has 85 Base Speed. That's far from "fast", even in UU. Hydro Pump is also risky, I'd much rather use Surf.
I meant the order you listed things in. them outspeeding you AFTER you make a move seems highly illogical. Unless of course they switch in on that turn.
im amazed no one has considered Suicunes access to Mirror Coat and decent special defences make it a viable option with its ability to rest off the damage and fire off at least 2 Mirror coats before dieing
Maybe because if you reveal mirror coat the opponent will no longer carelessly fire off special attacks at you. @ Virizion, Hydro Pump is much, much more powerful than surf, often making it a better option; for example,
+ 1 surf with leftovers does 72.1% - 85% to flygon
+ 1 hydro pump does 90.7% - 107% to the same flygon, a chance at a ohko.
Thanks to suicune's modest 90 base sp.a stat more powerful moves are often the best option.
+ 1 surf with leftovers does 72.1% - 85% to flygon
+ 1 hydro pump does 90.7% - 107% to the same flygon, a chance at a ohko.
Thanks to suicune's modest 90 base sp.a stat more powerful moves are often the best option.
BurningMan
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Or ice beam wich any offensive suicune uses :P
Hydro Pump is always a double edged sword, but cunes natural bulk means that it will often be able to live with a miss even if it has little defensive investment.
I still don't think offensive cune will work as well as crocune or roar rest versions, due to a massive speed creep, sun and chansey/snorlax that nerf it alot. However when the metagame settles a little more, i am sure it will be a more viable set.
it was just an illustration of a point. I agree with the rest of your post though, atm his other sets are more viable in order to check sun.