Monte Cristo
Banned deucer.
He said Unreleased Hidden Abilities
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Super-Effectivemons
- Thread starter Valmanway
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But sheer force feraligatr isnt in the teambuilder :L
Yes but in custom you can give Feral sheer force and when this gets coded and implemented you'll be able to give Feral sheer force.
Oh yeah, a clause of sorts. That could work. Yeah, I think we'll talk about that soon.
Gdi Flavio
You know I suck at every OM that ever existed XD
Greninja doesn't even need Secret Sword for Blissey?
Holy crap! This may need to be dealt with...
Serperior is so good. So good it needs a ban!!!
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-112657029
This was when I was trying to test a new team using mons that are able to use their unrealesed HA.
Serperior too Superior.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-112657029
This was when I was trying to test a new team using mons that are able to use their unrealesed HA.
Serperior too Superior.
Oh God, I didn't even think of V-Create! O_O I don't want it to be banned. :( I love Serperior. It will be stuck using outclassed Coil sets.
gdi this battle
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/customgame-112659275
How about this one. Shift Gear Aerodactyl <.<
That could be extremely broken, but I think the significance of Haze/Topsy-Turvy will be somewhat like Rapid Spin is for field hazards; it's just something you likely need to have. Though we'll see how things play out as time passes.
In fact, Haze effects both sides of the field like Defog, and Topsy-Turvy is for only one side like Rapid Spin. Coincidence? I think not.
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Chandelure has Infiltrator, not Shadow Tag, for what it seems Valmanway said.
I'll wait for him to answer though.
No Evasion Clause?
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AWailOfATail
viva la darmz
I think he meant a clause where a Pokemon can only use one (or two) of the SE attacks.
Oh god Mega Mawile now gets V-Create
Also the OP says both Stone Edge and Diamond Storm dispite Diamond Storm being the same thing except more accurate and exchanging a high crit rate for a 40% chance to lower defense or something like that. You should probably remove Stone Edge from the notable moves gained list.
Alse that Coil Tangrowth set would be even better with Sacred Fire
Also the OP says both Stone Edge and Diamond Storm dispite Diamond Storm being the same thing except more accurate and exchanging a high crit rate for a 40% chance to lower defense or something like that. You should probably remove Stone Edge from the notable moves gained list.
Alse that Coil Tangrowth set would be even better with Sacred Fire
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If we want to discuss it right now, it would probably be better for one. Because 2 gives you everything you need to sweep with like Alakazam (Tail Glow + Dark Void)
Though this makes me think...until we come up with a ruling...how does Sweeper Male Meowstic sound? I don't know if anyone suggested it or not.
Meowstic (Male)
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Speed
Tail Glow
Dark Void
Psyshock
Dark Pulse/Energy Ball/Thunderbolt
Of course the crux of this set is Prankster Dark Void. The only other Pokemon that can do it is Mega Banette but I think I heard Prankster doesn't work on the turn you mega evolve (the time you'd want to use Dark Void). The problem is that Meowstic (in particular the Male Meowstic) gets jack shit for coverage and it could use extra moveslots since the first two moves are downright required. The problem is, each of the last three moves takes down some important Pokemon (for example Dark Pulse: Celebi, Energy Ball: Krookodile, Thunderbolt: Bisharp). You could forgo Psyshock for it, but then the blobs will wall you and a part of me really hates not using STAB. You can also run Shadow Ball, but the only thing that'll do is allow you to hit Fairies neutrally which, with the exception of Mawile, Klefki, and Mr. Mime gets hit neutrally by Psyshock. All of which Thunderbolt can do instead...
The only thing that the Female Meowstic's moveset would have provided would have been Stored Power, but without Prankster Dark Void it's not worth it at all.
Too bad it doesn't get Baton Pass. It could have been decent with it.
A few things to say. First, Chandelure has Infiltrator, yes. If a Pokemon has abilities in 5th gen but not anymore, they stay in 5th gen. Second, evasion clause is still up, so no Double Team shenanigans. And finally, it's true Diamond Storm is better than Stone Edge, I was kind of exhausted at the time of typing that. lol That has been changed.
Yeah, I think we should discuss Spore/Dark Void + Tail Glow now.
Diamond Storm has a 50% to raise your own defense, not lower opponents defense
Also I am more considered about Jirachi, we just gave it 100% burn Sacred Fire, 100% special attack boosting Fiery Dance, and 80% accuracy dropping Night Daze
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Fire blast/Blue flare is to take care of physical walls like Meggron.
Anybody that wants to battle or even talk about SEmon just pm/challenge me in the Other Metas room. My username is TheAmazingFlavio.
This might sound like a not-so-fun idea, but what if we don't include unreleased hidden abilities? It would be a quick fix that works, but will basically make Serperior obsolete, though Serperior may or may not be very centralizing due to Contrary with Leaf Storm and V-Create to throw around, as DizzyDancer's replay showed us. So what I'm asking you guys is do you want to ban unreleased abilities or ban Serperior entirely? Pick your poison.
imo ban contrary serperior because its not like overgrow serperior is making an impact
Mega-Banette with topsy-turvy might become quite common
Edit: Meowstic too
I'd ban Contrary Serperior because other not-as-threatening Pokemon like Feraligatr and Emboar will be obsolete and not as good as they can be.
And most other Hidden Abilities aren't as threatening as Contrary, like Sturdy Regirock.
also just throwing it out there the doges got water and volt absorb along with flash fire, volt absorb raikou get hyped