Surf is literally better in pretty much every other scenario. The only times Shuriken is ""better"" is if you NEED a priority move, or know a Pokemon is going to be Sashed and you want to try and nuke it anyway.
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, why does Gren run Dark Pulse over ice beam? It already has stab hydro pump and the ice coverage is significantly better
Gen 5 OU is terrible so idk if I agree with that one
gren is fast enough that it prefers power over priority. the only relevant things that naturally outspeed it are:
I find it hard to definitively say Gen 5 is a bad tier (mostly because BW are two of my favourite games), but, to bring it back to SV OU, I personally feel like the meta is going in the right direction when it comes to balancing it, the only mon that I think is banworthy left in the tier (apart from Gambit), is Baxcalibur (The ghosts: Drag and Ghold and the fairies: Enam and IVal are definitely top-tier right now but I don't think they are banworthy).
Evolite Duraludon becomes real. I hope you're all happy.
genuinely forgot that existed
maybe it's 600 and they're finally upgrading it to pseudo-legendary like it deserves (its design is way cooler than dragapult's and it absolutely got shafted)
Kingambit went up to 550 over 490, for the category of "Pokemon where an Evo wasn't too necessary" in terms of statline. I could see 550-560 since that's also where stuff like Volcarona sit. Evolution might be more of a Scizor type where it's reallocating stats rather than adding a lot of them.
Not just Solarbeam, but it also functions like Meteor Beam as well.
Too early to tell, until we have the BST and moves in front of us
Stamina and sturdy So unless it’s stat distribution is god awful it’ll probably be OU Capable.
