For clarity, not just when Terastallized. As long as Ogerpon is holding a Mask, it's all the time.
even better then I explained
counterpoint: any psychic type move ever + dandori issue
Could you elaborate? I've used sneasler and, while what is essentially better Hawlucha is pretty scary, I find the eternal dilemna of setting up Attack or Speed really gets you in this fast-paced metagame. Often I feel forced into 50/50s where I essentially just guess whether the opponent is going to switch to BE Valiant and I should CC and then Gunk Shot or switch to Ghold and I should SD and then Lash Out next turn to KO. If I predict wrong and SD on the Valiant or CC on the Ghold, I'm forced to switch out because they can KO or cripple Sneasler. I also found that Sneasler has a plethora of midgame checks that can take it on when healthy- Landorus-T(usk) are the biggest ones ofc but also Garchomp, Dragapult, Moth, Rotom, etc. that can all switch in relatively safely on Sneasler regardless of what it does and force it out. Most of these Pokemon are frail, so Sneasler can eventually beat them, but they make it so that Sneasler can't just set up immediately and win. We also have 2 excellent defensive poisons, Pex and Glowking, which can wall any Sneasler that doesn't commit to Tera Ground. It's also not the best at switching in due to low defensive stats. So, yes, sneasler is pretty scary to stop once it has gotten into the sweep, but I find its numerous flaws make it hard to find opportunities to get into that position.
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One: why woul you use lash out on this Mon? Two: set up damage, it is more helpful in the long run. SD + CC + White Herb + Unburden has huge sweep potential, Acrobatics should always be your fourth move with Flying tera, removing ground and flying weakness while getting STAB on Acrobatics. I always run DC over Gunk, 100 percent accuracy with 50 percent chance to para, poison, or sleep is better than 80 percent accuracy with 30 percent chance to poison.
As a sneasler enjoyer in Terrain, I do see the frustration. It can be easy for it to sweep. On the flipside, it only gets one chance to sweep and has insane 4MSS leaving it walled by something, whether it be Ghold, Zapdos, Glowking, etc. Defensive Teras from pokemon like ursaluna also can force it into 50/50s and the defense lowering effect from CC will leave it vulnerable to priority. I think it is a great Pokemon, but balanced by the support it needs (terrain setter), being 1 time use, and needing to deal w/ 4mss.
Minor question in this mix, does Glowking stop Sneasler since you mentioned you run Lash Out? Its part Psychic typing undercuts the resistance to Sneasler's STABs at that point even unboosted.
counterpoint:
The thing is, the best Sneasler sets will always set up speed if you give them a turn. Balloon Sneasler needs to simply eat a u-turn. Herb Sneasler either clicks Close Combat or eats an intimidate. Seedler being the most braindead of them all because there isn't a single other decent terrain setter in the current pokedex means that one wrong prediction against these teams, one incorrect move based on info you currently have or were conditioned into and the game is over. And yeah there's an argument that all of pokemon has been like that for a long time, but very rarely to the extent of Sneasler. Sure there was Volcarona, some of the UB's in gen 7, and Hawlucha in gen 7 and 8, but at the same time, none of them were baseline strong enough to instantly win the game, there had to be at least one turn of setup involved. Sneasler, on the other hand, is absurdly strong even at +0, has the movepool to muscle through checks (i.e. ice punch for glando), and doesn't necessarily have to succeed with an unburden sweep to still be a threat, it's still absurdly fast. But still, you should always assume it's unburden Sneasler until you have information to the contrary. With no info, an unknown Sneasler set applies immense pressure even when it's not out because you always know that if you fuck up, or if they double switch at the right time, the game has a chance to be over immediately.
counterpoint: 252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs 252 HP / 204+ Def Hatterene: (70.4 - 83.6%) and 16.67% Chance Sleep: no way to strike back
Oh sorry, I didn’t mean for it to be innipropriate
counterpoint use Gholdengo
I don't even wanna know what someone just posted, but if its something sus to do with Ogerpon I really do not want to know
It get's it when not tera'd cuz of it's item. The masks boost all of it's offence by 20%, it has nothing to do with tera.
it was me posting the bad lip sync ”imma hit you in the head with my stick” in reference to ivy cudgel
It'll be at bare minimum a month. The meta is less than a week old, and we need to sift through the meta and find what is broken. Once those are gone, mons that weren't good have a chance to find a niche. It'll be probably another week until a viability list is created. Once new toy syndrome dies down and people settle on what's good, then a ranking will be created.
