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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 ( NEW SURVEY UP, POST 20,700 )

With Sceens taking over as seen by Vert's incredible OLT run, and with uses from the likes of Ewin, Giannis, and ABR... Which screen setter do you prefer and with what set?

:Deoxys-Speed:
I very much prefer it, and the option to run hazards as last slot is great, as you do not need to put another mon like Iron Treads or Samurott-Hisui somewhat awkwardly. Psycho Boost is still great ofc, and I have also seen other options like Thunder Wave and Teleport.

:Ninetales-Alola:
Poor winrate but part of the earlier screens, around WCoP. With the option to run STAB moves, Veil, Encore, but also Snowscape and Roar. Blizzard is another option, as is running max SpA rather than HP

:Zamazenta:
Still very well disguised, and we have seen it do great while running a variety of moves such as Steel Beam, Roar, Heavy Slam, Close Combat

:Dragapult:
Dying down again after the initial boom during OLT, but still somewhat around
I really enjoyed using the Nasty Plot Tera Blast Ground set Storm Zone made for Ninetales-A. Freeze Dry + TB Ground is pretty scary even off of base 81 Special Attack and that set is good at luring a lot of its standard checks like Gholdengo,
 
I really enjoyed using the Nasty Plot Tera Blast Ground set Storm Zone made for Ninetales-A. Freeze Dry + TB Ground is pretty scary even off of base 81 Special Attack and that set is good at luring a lot of its standard checks like Gholdengo,
i wonder if tb fire wouldn't be better. the coverage is decidedly worse and the rocks weakness is bad but the steel resist gives you an even bigger edge over ghold, scizor, and iron crown, while also letting you snipe corv. thoughts?
 
i wonder if tb fire wouldn't be better. the coverage is decidedly worse and the rocks weakness is bad but the steel resist gives you an even bigger edge over ghold, scizor, and iron crown, while also letting you snipe corv. thoughts?
I assume it has something to do with :heatran: Heatran's flash fire hindering tb fire Atales perhaps but I think the viable ground types available like :great-tusk: Great Tusk or :landorus-therian: Lando-T could help ease the situation but then again, I assume :heatran: will first set up rocks and that would hurt :ninetales-alola: Atales a lot if it switches in again both pre and post-tera (assuming :great tusk: was spinblocked by :pecharunt: Pecha or :gholdengo: Ghold and the switch mu games begins after that).
 
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i wonder if tb fire wouldn't be better. the coverage is decidedly worse and the rocks weakness is bad but the steel resist gives you an even bigger edge over ghold, scizor, and iron crown, while also letting you snipe corv. thoughts?
I assume Ground is used specifically for Gking as it resists Poison, hits it SE, and is immune to twave. Also Heatran which is now OU, and potentially to catch Thunderclap.
 
some meta thoughts

:ting_lu:
+ Ting-Lu is still a top tier mon but pain split Hatt being top 10 in usage and higher usage of grasses (Tealpon, Apple, Rilla) does tank its performance in the meta.

:deoxys_speed:
+ NP aren’t as good rn lacking defensive utility other plotters have (Torn, Rai, etc) but it’s the best screens setter and the extra utility puts it above Ayy Tales. Screens is trending upwards again with how many cracked ass abusers exist.

:pecharunt:
+ Not sure why Pecha dropped last slate, it checks the big 3 physical mons (Zama/Dnite/Waterpon) and NP re-gained traction during OLT and SCL.

:hydrapple:
+ Hydrapple is legit A- material. Walls every Wellspring lacking Play Rough and sees frequent usage on Sand which has seen an upwards trend. It’s a fantastic breaker and Tera abuser that’s feeds off of Zama/Ting/Ghold BOs.

:walking_wake:
+ Booster SpA Wake is super slept on. A lot of offenses drop to it after an Agility and still puts in work against bulkier structures.

:tyranitar: :excadrill:
+ Lots of Sand on the ladder. Will it last? Idk, but Ttar’s defensive utility coupled with its impressive progress making capabilities (Knock + Sand) has been looked at more. CB nearly 2HKOs everything, even Dozo drops to CB 2 Stone Edges with Tera Rock.

:ogerpon:
+ Tealpon is rly good rn despite the spam of birds and Kyurem. A particular set I’ve become fond of is SD Encore.
 
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