I’m sorry, but it seems the forum thread has turned hostile.
This will be the last thing I write to you about Glaceon.
All I can say to you is my investigation uncovered Glaceon to be a Bulky Ice - Wall Breaker.
I tested my theory by simulating a Pokemon Battle situation.
The Pokémon I used in the simulation was Amoongus.
Amoongus is a popular Pokémon in OU.
Amoongus is a Wall Pokémon which could see play on Stall teams.
Amoongus is a Grass/Poison Type.
Glaceon Prey’s on the following:
- Wall Pokémon
- Dragon, Flying, Grass, or Ground Types.
The Pokémon Amoongus matches the Prey criteria.
The Pokémon Amoongus is Wall & a Grass Type.
The Simulation began!
- Amoongus on the Pokemon Battle Field
- Glaceon hard switches into Amoongus
What does Amoongus do to Glaceon?
All Damage Calculators indicate it would take 5 to 6 hits for Amoongus to kill Glaceon.
0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 88 SpD Glaceon: 81-96 (24.2 - 28.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 88 SpD Glaceon: 67-81 (20 - 24.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
A lot of people said Ice Type is bad defensive type because it only resist Ice.
The truth is the Ice Typing is irrelevant because the Pokémon you switch Glaceon into do no damage.
The only thing Amoongus could do against Glaceon is cripple it with Status Condition.
- Toxic
- Paralyze
- Sleep
Status Condition’s will not work on Glaceon because she could run the Move Rest.
The Move Rest would cancel any status condition a Pokémon like Amoongus could do.
In addition to all the above, Glaceon could threat Amoongus with very devastating attacks.
0 SpA Glaceon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Amoonguss: 222-264 (51.3 - 61.1%) -- 91.8% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Glaceon Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Amoonguss: 174-206 (40.2 - 47.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery
A lot of people said Glaceon Speed at only 65 made her to slow to handle other Pokémon.
People didn’t think about the Speed “Wall” Pokémon have.
Amoongus has 30 speed
Glaceon has enough speed to run circles around Amoongus.
Furthermore, Glaceon has the move Calm Mind.
Glaceon could use Amoongus as set up fodder to not only kill Amoongus, but other Pokémon as well.
Glaceon could be very dangerous if allowed to boost up.
Ladies & Gentlemen
- I did an investigation on Glaceon stats
- I did an evaluation on Glaceon move pool
- I did a summary on what Glaceon role as Pokémon was as well as what her nature Prey might be.
- I did a Battle Simulation showing people how Glaceon would behave vs. a Pokémon which is her Prey.
- I did Test in the Simulation showing Damage Calculations to further demonstrate how Glaceon abilities to counter these Pokémon are absolute.
If your still not convinced Glaceon is Good Pokémon, Than you never will be!
Nothing anyone tells you or shows you will ever change your mind because you have created a prejudice against Glaceon.
It’s sad that a person who doesn’t even like Glaceon had to be the one to defend Glaceon.
The prejudices and hostility toward Glaceon has made the subject uncomfortable to talk about.
It’s a shame because now people will never know why Glaceon is the “Key” Pokémon for Snow Teams.
A missed discussion opportunity.
My research on Glaceon was very extensive.
I uncovered how Glaceon interacts on regular team and how Glaceon would interact on snow team.
I didn’t even get a chance to share my findings about Glaceon on a snow team.
To bad, Players will simply have to do their own research.
They will have to uncover the secret knowledge for themselves.
Showing Glaceon beating Amoongus doesn’t help anything. Of course Amoongus has a poor matchup against Glaceon, it’s a slow Grass type.
When showing the potential of a Pokémon, you have to explain its strengths that it has over Pokémon occupying a similar role, and even just justifying why you would put it on a team. Why would I use Glaceon over, say, Baxcalibur? Baxcalibur has an extra STAB and better stats, including better speed which it can boost further by using Dragon Dance. Baxcalibur can be very threatening if it gets off a DD, meanwhile Glaceon gets outsped and killed by one of its 4 weaknesses, 3 of which are to very common attacking types. Why would I use Glaceon over Chien-Pao, which is immediately threatening with its 120 Attack+Sword of Ruin combined with a great 135 speed. Also, both of these Pokémon have great coverage. Glaceon‘s best coverage is Shadow Ball, which completely does not address Ice’s resists.
Going more broad than the Ice type comparisons, why use it as a Calm Mind sweeper? It’s coverage makes it very hard to use outside of as cleanup, and stuff like Iron Valiant can fulfill the role of a CM cleaner better(you can also spam Tera Ghost DD Pult up and down the ladder, wink wink).
Go on the ladder and give me some actual proof that Glaceon can do something, because currently I see no reason to use it over other options.
