The former, 2.66, is what I’m told is correct. Everything will be confirmed in the coming days, but it’s the assumption I’ve been working with in my head anyway
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Resource SV OU Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread
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Are the Paradox Pokemon considered to be separate species from their base counterparts (whether in game or by Smogon) or more akin to Regionals? For example, would using Iron Thorns + Tyranitar trigger a species clause, or could I place them on the same team (ignoring viability just for the clarification)?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1717122886
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I encountered an odd glitch(?) on turn 20 of this battle. A Tera-Flying Roaring Moon clicked Roost and lost its Flying typing, but when hit by Corviknight's Body Press the damage dealt was super-effective? Is this just a visual glitch, or could it be that a Terastalized mon that loses its Tera typing reverts to its base typing? And if that is the case, is that cartridge-accurate?
Not sure if this is the right thread, but I encountered an odd glitch(?) on turn 20 of this battle. A Tera-Flying Roaring Moon clicked Roost and lost its Flying typing, but when hit by Corviknight's Body Press the damage dealt was super-effective? Is this just a visual glitch, or could it be that a Terastalized mon that loses its Tera typing reverts to its base typing? And if that is the case, is that cartridge-accurate?
When a pure Flying type uses Roost, it's Flying typing is actually replaced by Normal. This means it is weak to Fighting and immune to Ghost. This is unique to pure Flying types; Pokemon with secondary typings just lose the Flying type for the turn.
they are considered to be different species, so running both Iron Thorns and Tyranitar in the same team for example is allowed. You can check if a team is valid or not by using the Validate button beside the format in teambuilding if you're unsure
Species Clause count by dex number. If two Pokemon share the same dex number (Rotom-Wash and Rotom-Heat) they are the same according to species clause. None of the paradox mons share dex numbers with their base, so all of them are unique.they are considered to be different species, so running both Iron Thorns and Tyranitar in the same team for example is allowed. You can check if a team is valid or not by using the Validate button beside the format in teambuilding if you're unsure
Speed tiers thread?
It’s being worked on currently and will be up in the near future
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-speed-tiers.3711207/ they’re actually up now, thanks to AtraX Madara
does anyone know if eviolite works on ursaring or not?
ursaluna hasn't come yet,but it will come eventually so I want to know if they made eviolite to work on ursaring or not.
ursaluna hasn't come yet,but it will come eventually so I want to know if they made eviolite to work on ursaring or not.
Don't know if this is too loaded a question for the Simple thread, or even if there's an answer yet but
Does the council tend to wait for a Lull in Bans/Removal tests before trying Reintroduction suspects? Or do they tend to just survey opinions and sentiment after any given action for what to act on next?
Mainly curious about the prospect of how long after later stuff like Home reintroduced it would take to maybe see "bad Ubers" evaluated in OU like some people are speculating for Zamazenta after the massive rise in power level (Not a request just wanted to put an example forward while explaining). Would this be something that has to wait until there are no potential concerns for Suspects, or only until there are no "definite" suspect plans for existing mons (the former being things like Weavile, Drag, and Melmetal in Gen 8, which had a lot of iffy talk among players, but didn't receive suspects until the latter's near the end which was heavily "don't ban" anyway)
Does the council tend to wait for a Lull in Bans/Removal tests before trying Reintroduction suspects? Or do they tend to just survey opinions and sentiment after any given action for what to act on next?
Mainly curious about the prospect of how long after later stuff like Home reintroduced it would take to maybe see "bad Ubers" evaluated in OU like some people are speculating for Zamazenta after the massive rise in power level (Not a request just wanted to put an example forward while explaining). Would this be something that has to wait until there are no potential concerns for Suspects, or only until there are no "definite" suspect plans for existing mons (the former being things like Weavile, Drag, and Melmetal in Gen 8, which had a lot of iffy talk among players, but didn't receive suspects until the latter's near the end which was heavily "don't ban" anyway)
Suspects will likely come in a couple of weeks once the most egregious, super-majority inducing Pokemon are taken out of the equation.
We just had two unanimous bans and we may have another slate with a couple more. But sometime soon after that, we may be getting closer to a normal setting depending on how the tier develops.
Speaking of “just survey opinions and sentiment”, we also will likely use public surveys to gauge some matters come time for potential suspects as well, so everyone’s voice can be heard to an extent!
For the record in case my phrasing came off as rude (apologies if it did), what I meant here was less the idea the council "just" listens to what players are saying or loud about or anything, and more if there's an order like "remove problems, and only then try testing things back down" vs "Opinion leans towards ST-ing X down to OU more of ST-ing Y out of OU, so maybe we'll test X first"
I'm probably rambling to make sure I phrase this right as someone without a huge history of Suspect participation or following.
Nah you were not at all rude, it’s just not a set-in-stone process. Like Pokémon, our processes and best practices continually have to evolve.
Rn the idea is to ban the clearly broken things that will waste time for suspects and stunt metagame progression, and then look into the prospect of managing Tera and more controversial, closely contested Pokemon. I just can’t assign specific values and lengths to each of these phases quite yet
where can I see the usage of each pokemon?
Usage stats will likely come out at the end of the month
Blissey or dodge Hydro Pump basically. It’s busted
Long discussion, which is based off of forum posts, firsthand experience, and anything else brought to our attention. I am always reading metagame discussion (and posting in it, as many of you can see) and then being transparent about where we are at in order to function as a bridge between council and community. This keeps everyone in the loop as much as possible.
When the council says they are watching the effects of Tera on OU, does that mean it’s an all-or-nothing observation over the entire mechanic? Are things like considering only allowing Tera on original types (ex. Chien-Pao can only be pure Dark or pure Ice if it transforms) on the table? I read the On The Radar post and found it unclear.
We have an open mind; it is not necessarily all-or nothing over the entire mechanic. It was purposefully vague so we do not lock into anything prematurely. We are not committing to any line of action on a core mechanic within the first week.