To be honest, I never agreed with Bellossom's ban from ZU and I think people just see it as "an annoying element that doesn't bring much to the tier" but honestly it's worse than oricorio-F which i never saw as broken either. From my POV they're the kind of mons that set up a quiver dance or two and then fail to sweep.Sense the tier discussion forum is dead.
Anyone thoughts on? It recently got banned from zu and there's a pattern of people not using a low tier until its bl and than finding out it's broken (Ru oricorio pom-pom and Gyarados)
Frosmoth w/ hail support is much less susceptible to "anti-cheese" imo. Meanwhile, even in ZU, Oricorio-F's biggest issue is that it can't really setup on anything, and if it does, it will eventually need to hit a hurricane to hope for a 2HKO, since there is no shortage of good water types in the tier.
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A -> A+ Our current "tera makes it broken" mon. Some want it banned, with or without snow.
A- -> A/A+ The other top snow sweeper, but still deserving of A-rank otherwise as one of our top hazard controls.
A- -> A It's always been a huge offensive threat, except now there's no more Wo-Chien to stop it.
B- -> B/B+ It really benefits from losing pretty much all the mons that rose to NU.
B -> B+/A- It just hard switches into so many relevant mons. And that gives it all the more chances to set up hazards or Coil.
B -> B+ Annoyingly soft checks a lotta stuff with it's high bulk and annoying utility. Yes, I'm looking at you Thunder Wave.
B- -> B/B+ See above.
B- -> B Grassy Terrain is slightly better than before, and you're gonna need this monkey to pull it off.
B- -> B Another Grassy Terrain team mon, and it's debatably the best Unburden option we have.
C+ -> B- A solid trade mon, it can also be really hard to switch into without a Milotic on your team.
C -> B- This just feels like a mon that is popular to hate on. Sure it's not at its peak, but the utility, specifically hazard control, is great in the current meta.
C -> C+ I don't support it dropping last update, it can easily be used over Uxie for Healing Wish support or as a more offensive SR setter.
C -> B- Spikes are good :P
A -> A- Checks stuff less reliably than we anticipated, and one of it's biggest resists, Pawmot, has Ice Punch for it.
B -> B- Only rose due to a couple hype tour matches, fell from B+ last shift and I think it deserves another fall.
B- -> C Cool in theory with Milotic being a thing, but too meh in practice to usually justify over other stuff.
B- -> C/C+ Pretty much just used on terrain, and I know I said to raise some terrain mons, this is not one of em.
C -> UR This is the kind of mon that can put in work in a match every blue moon but doesn't have enough going for it to actually justify being ranked.