Synergies and Me! An OU RMT.

Ninjarabian

Devoloping this team hit one major snag- and that was when I had 5 pokemon fit together, and no priority. I tried to fix it with the best I could think of, but if you have any suggestions, PLEASE, for the love of god, tell me! I'll use it the best I can.
I tried my best making this team and making this post. I went through hours of effort and digging trying to fit a decent team together, and hope you feel satisfaction from helping me make it better. All suggestions will be appreciated, concidered, and hopefully used to improve my chances.

All changes will be in BOLD.

The Team:
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Concerns thus far: Wow look at the slowness of this team, that could be a problem, and I only have one priority user. Hopefully the bulkyness will make up for it!​

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Gaia
Holding: Lum Berry
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe/6 HP
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Clear Body
~Bullet Punch
~Stealth Rock
~Earthquake
~Explosion
Synergies:
Absorb Rock attacks flying at Zapdos and Gyarados.
Eats toxic to stop stallers.
Secondary blocker of Ice at Breloom and Grass at Suicune.​
Gaia is the Goddess of Earth, and my Metagross. I put her here instead of Lucario because she can Stealth Rock, AND she does the job that Lucario was doing better than Lucario, except for the off time that I got a Swords Dance in. He still does the same functions, being an absorber of those off moves that no one else resists, but has Bullet Punch for STAB priority, Stealth Rocks for awesomeness, Earthquake for coverage, and Explosion because I can. Not sure if that's the set I can use, let's here your input.
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Indra
Holding: Life Orb
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP
Nature: Timid
Ability: Pressure
~Thunder Bolt
~Heatwave
~Hidden Power [Ground]
~Roar/Haze
Synergies:
Primary blocker of Grass at Suicune.
(P)hazer, those help everyone.​
Indra is the God of Lightning, my Zapdos. I chose Zapdos because I need something that could attack very well and (p)haze. I chose the Thunder Bolt, Heatwave, HP Ground set for maximum coverage, and mostly for it's awesomeness. I'm not sure whether to choose Roar or Haze, that's where you're supposed to help. Any suggested changes in the moveset will be concidered, too.

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Thor
Holding: Expert Belt
EVs: 76 Atk/252 SpA/180 Spe
Nature: Mild
Ability: Motor Drive
~Thunder Bolt
~Hidden Power [Grass]
~Flamethrower
~Cross Chop
Synergies:
Eats EVERY electric move... hopefully.
Blissey killer, opening the floor for Zapdos.​
Thor, the God of Thunder, is my Electivire. He's got AMAZING synergy with gyarados and to a lesser extent Suicune. I chose the mixxed set because I don't like being walled by the likes of Blissey. Super Effective alot, so I chose Expert Belt instead of Life Orb.
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Leviathan
Holding: Charti Berry
EVs: 252 Atk/4 HP/252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Intimidate
~Waterfall
~Dragon Dance
~Stone Edge
~Earthquake
Synergies:
Pulls electric moves for Electivire.
Resists all attacks super effective to Metagross.​
Leviathan made a godly appearance in the Final Fantasy series as a giant water serpent that basically just raped everything, and is my Gyarados. I love DDers, and Gyarados seemed to fit into my team the best. I'm not sure what item to give him, because Life Orb would sap his health away really fast with the Stealth Rock weakness, and he needs that health to set up. Waterfall and EdgeQuake for maximum damage with great coverage. This guy is a great switch in from Metagross and draws electric attacks for Electivire to eat.
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Hypnos
Holding: Choice Scarf
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe/6 HP
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Effect Spore
~Seed Bomb
~Stone Edge
~Spore
~Super Power
Synergies:
Revenge kills
Eats Rock Attacks
Hypnos, the Diety of Sleep, is my Breloom. I needed this guy for revenge killing and countering nearly everything. If he can't kill it, he can put it to sleep, so I can switch in the correct counter. Seed Bomb and Super Power for STAB, Stone Edge so I don't get walled by every flying. and Spore because, well it's a Breloom. Trying to find a better name for this guy.
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Poseidon
Holding: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
Nature: Bold
Ability: Pressure
~Surf
~Calm Mind
~Rest
~Sleep Talk
Synergetic with:
Draws electric attacks for Electivire.
Absorbs status.
Poseidon, the God of the Seas, the Suicune. I chose this guy because I had a problem with status. I picked the CroCune set because I think it works better than the Sleep Talk set, and it absorbs status. This guy is amazing at stall wars, he beat a Vaporeon and a Blissey from full PP in one match, making them both kill themselves with struggle.
 
I could see possibly a mixape giving you a hard time, but other than that everything fits together nicely. Good job making the team.
 
I suggest using this electivire set. its more effective and walled by less than the standard one.

Electivire@Life Orb/Expert Belt
Mild
76 atk/252 sp atk/180 speed
-Flamethrower
-Cross Chop
-Thunderbolt
-HP grass/ice
 
Buckeye5865 said:
I could see possibly a mixape giving you a hard time, but other than that everything fits together nicely. Good job making the team.
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Thanks, any suggestions on an easy way to eat Mixape?

tonmon said:
vaporeon can get walled by milotic or ludiculo
protect is a good choice but also toxic or HP electric
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hmm Toxic might work, but doesn't Milotic carry resttalk alot?

Bogmire said:
I suggest using this electivire set. its more effective and walled by less than the standard one.

Electivire@Life Orb/Expert Belt
Mild
76 atk/252 sp atk/180 speed
-Flamethrower
-Cross Chop
-Thunderbolt
-HP grass/ice
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hmm... I like. I do already have a few EQers anyway! AND if I did that I could switch Lucario to a physical set!

OR I could even go farther and put Metagross over Lucario... he's bulkier, that's for sure.
 
Ninjarabian said:
Thanks, any suggestions on an easy way to eat Mixape?
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Just with careful prediction. A mixape is extremely easy to kill, that is if you can get a hold of it. Not one set can completely ohko everything you have without setting up with something. The biggest threat that i could imagine sweeping through your team is just nasty plot with fire blast and grass knot. Your vaporeon is a pretty descent counter because a np'd grass knot won't ohko, and you can ohko back with surf. So i guess mixape isn't that big of a problem now that i think about it, but you could have problems if it comes out late game.
 
Buckeye5865 said:
Just with careful prediction. A mixape is extremely easy to kill, that is if you can get a hold of it. Not one set can completely ohko everything you have without setting up with something. The biggest threat that i could imagine sweeping through your team is just nasty plot with fire blast and grass knot. Your vaporeon is a pretty descent counter because a np'd grass knot won't ohko, and you can ohko back with surf. So i guess mixape isn't that big of a problem now that i think about it, but you could have problems if it comes out late game.
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Good deal, thanks for the input bro =)
 
Hey it's Fate posting. I saw the team earlier today, but didn't get a chance to post, so here goes.

I really think Gliscor is a bit Lack-Luster in the current metagame. Zapdos takes the Insect/Fighting moves well, and has better type coverage. For this reason, I suggest a defensive spread on Zapdos with Thunderbolt/Heat Wave/[Ice]/Roost. Also, Gliscor would be better off a Timid Scarf Heatran. Heatran offers a plethora of resistances and a very useful immunity to fire. Timid outruns other Modest ones and Skymin.

Vaporeon would enjoy being a Restalk Suicune, which handles your Status Problem. You can also throw Roar in over an attack, if you really see a need to PHaze, but you won't need it much in the current meta.

I hate to change a team so much, but I also think Lucario would be better off as a utility Metagross with Meteor Mash or EQ/Bullet Punch/SR/Explosion. SR will really help with Skymin/Salamence/Zapdos/Gyarados. Bullet Punch will prove invaluable in the fast metagame, and Explosion will leave a dent in things when Metagross gets to low to take any hits anymore, and Meteor Mash or EQ depending on what you want to hit. Ice Punch/Thunderpunch are both options too.

Electivire, although not the best of sweepers, offers your team a handy Electric Immunity, and can sweep teams late game with a speed boost. If you find it to hold you back too much, Celebi or Tangrowth may be an option. Tangrowth offers an accurate sleep move in the form of Sleep Powder. Celebi, although unsound in theory with all the Scizor, offers Screens, Leech Seed which can help you with stall wars, has T-Wave to punish incoming Heatran and Scizor, is a decent counter to Gyara, and has a reliable recovery move. It also completes the synergy of Celetran. I'm not sure if it would work in Platinum, but it's definitely worth testing if you ever have the time.
 
Star Shaper said:
Hey it's Fate posting. I saw the team earlier today, but didn't get a chance to post, so here goes.

I really think Gliscor is a bit Lack-Luster in the current metagame. Zapdos takes the Insect/Fighting moves well, and has better type coverage. For this reason, I suggest a defensive spread on Zapdos with Thunderbolt/Heat Wave/[Ice]/Roost. Also, Gliscor would be better off a Timid Scarf Heatran. Heatran offers a plethora of resistances and a very useful immunity to fire. Timid outruns other Modest ones and Skymin.

Vaporeon would enjoy being a Restalk Suicune, which handles your Status Problem. You can also throw Roar in over an attack, if you really see a need to PHaze, but you won't need it much in the current meta.

I hate to change a team so much, but I also think Lucario would be better off as a utility Metagross with Meteor Mash or EQ/Bullet Punch/SR/Explosion. SR will really help with Skymin/Salamence/Zapdos/Gyarados. Bullet Punch will prove invaluable in the fast metagame, and Explosion will leave a dent in things when Metagross gets to low to take any hits anymore, and Meteor Mash or EQ depending on what you want to hit. Ice Punch/Thunderpunch are both options too.

Electivire, although not the best of sweepers, offers your team a handy Electric Immunity, and can sweep teams late game with a speed boost. If you find it to hold you back too much, Celebi or Tangrowth may be an option. Tangrowth offers an accurate sleep move in the form of Sleep Powder. Celebi, although unsound in theory with all the Scizor, offers Screens, Leech Seed which can help you with stall wars, has T-Wave to punish incoming Heatran and Scizor, is a decent counter to Gyara, and has a reliable recovery move. It also completes the synergy of Celetran. I'm not sure if it would work in Platinum, but it's definitely worth testing if you ever have the time.
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Thank for posting dawg=)
That being said, I was thinking of adding a scarfer, however a swap of Gliscor for Heatran would throw me way too far to the special side. But maybe a difference scarfer could be placed there.

I was never a fan of Restalkcune, but IF I did switch that, I could possibly pull something to put a Jirachi in with wish passing.

I was waiting for a confirmation to the Lucario subject, and you gave me that, so thank you.

Electivire, to me, is like a sign of my good playership. He can be an ace or a 2 in a game of war, depending on how well I read the game and the opponent, so I think I'll keep him in there. Celery is pretty nice though, I'll play around and see if he does anything.
 
HUGE UPDATE:
Switched Metagross for Lucario.

Smaller updates:
Changed EV spread on Gyarados to deal with Skymin better.
Thinking of a way to get a different wish user, or use a RestalkCune instead of Vaporeon.
 
Tentacruel would fit in well to help you with Infernape, Ludicolo and Milotic. a Sub/Poison Jab/Hydro Pump/Knock Off set could work with a SDef orientated EV spread.
 
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