....Take there life away, leave them nothing left inside

Catch 22

....When your own have died and theres no more pride, when your heart is broken a thousand times, is that enough?

^^Awesome Disturbed song

INTRO
We humans can be so predictable, we follow certain trends and make it a standard in everything we do. We are sheep who follow one person who thinks of an excellent idea and then copy it or tinker with it and make it slightly different or just change it to a different poke with the same intent the original had (im talking about lead Aero to lead Azelf etc). Ive decided to take advantage of the predictableness (is that a word?) as far as leads go. Hm lets see, what are some common leads? Gyarados, Bronzong, Gengar, Azelf, Aerodactyl, Weavile etc. Ive been toying with the idea of countering or defeating all in one lead. And ive been successful with the lead and providing a solid core for the rest of my team. Granted its far from perfect, but that doesnt mean it hasnt been successful.

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INFERNAPE@ CHOICE SCARF
Ability: Blaze
Ev's:36Atk/ 252 SpA/220 Speed
Nature: Rash
- Overheat
- U turn
- HP ice
- close combat

Nearly every first turn ill u turn to scout out my opponent, does its job nicely.

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STARMIE @ Lefties
Ability: Natural Cure
Ev's: 176 HP/220 Speed/ 114 SpA
Nature: Timid
- Surf
- Recover
- Thunderbolt
- Rapid Spin


A much needed spinner for this team, and gyara counter standard stuff here.


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CELEBI @ LEFTIES
Ability: Natural Cure
Ev's: 252 Hp/ 220 Def/ 36 Speed
Nature: Bold
- recover
- reflect
- grass knot
- t wave


Does a great job at paralyzing the foe and is a decent garchomp counter with reflect up aswell as taking care of gyara with ease

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GYARADOS @ LIFE ORB
Ability: Intimadate
Ev's: 80 Hp/252 Atk/ 176 Speed
Nature: Adament
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

An excellent and key player to this team, intimidate is vital and stops most physical sweepers in there tracks. You could say this team handles Gyara's counters very well, Magmortar and Zapdos and T tar can easily take Vaporeon, Starmie, and Celebi with ease.

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Snorlax @ CHOICE BAND
Ability: Thick Fat
Ev's: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 SpD
Nature: Careful
- Pursuit
- Body Slam
- Eq
- Brick Break

This thing is a beast. It stops physic and ghost types in its tracks. Proviides nice bulk to the team and catches the opponent off guard alot
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Ev's: 252 HP/ 128 Atk/ 128 Special Defense
Nature: Sassy
- Hypnosis
- SR
- Explosion
- Gyro Ball

Adds nice support and resistances to this team. I dont think anyone else coud fit this spot any better actually.

Well, theres my team guys. If you see any major flaws or have any concern or yo have any criticism, please post it.
 
I had to post just because you made that "Enough" reference.

I really like that magmortar btw, I might try that.
 
I can attest to how surprising that Magmortar can be. However, if people catch up, you might be in problems.
Anyway, I don't like Tyranitar in this team. As good as it is, its Sand Stream combined with 3 SRock-Weak Pokemon might give you a bit too much residual damage in the long run.
 
A CB heracross or CB garchomp might work in its stead with heracross you get pursuit which was what i was aiming for. think that may work?
 
Lifeorb gyara with stone edge kills you aftern one Dragon Dance...
Perhaps use 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 Spd on Starmie, that lo gyara can't ohko and/or replace tyranitar with thunderwave / reflect celebi. Also Garchomp is quite dangerous because lo gyara can't do much against it, especially in sandstorm and your Bronzong has no physical Defense :/ You could use the 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SDef and bold to counter Garchomp with Bronzong.
But Celebi>Tyranitar seems to be a good thing, because it helps against Gyarados, Garchomp and the rare Stone Edge Lucario, who also is quite dangerous.
 
ok this is kind of confusing, but ill try to make sense of it. If i give starmie a bulkier set, will thunderbolt ohko? Would a life orb work in place of leftovers for starmie. Why would i make bronzong bold? if anything id make it relaxed....celebi and zapdos pretty much accomplish the same thing. But i think ill use celebi inplace of zapdos. With the set of grass knot, reflect, recover, t wave. which leaves me with 5 pokes. Magmortar, gyara, starmie, celebi, bronzong. come to think of it, a hariyama might work well as my 6 poke. any opinions?
 
well, I'm really confused right now, so, uh, I'll just work from what you've got on the first post, which is magmortar / starmie / zapdos / gyara / bronzong / tar.

aight, what I notice off the bat is that if magnezone can get a sub anywhere he pretty much kills a member of your team. also, lo gyarados rips you apart after a dd, as he outspeeds and kills pretty much everyone (starmie does not outspeed or live). also, cb tar isn't that great of an idea with LO gyarados and whatnot, so I think we need to take him out too. aight, so let's take out tyranitar and replace him with a cblax. gets rid of the ghosts and psychics with pursuit, deals big damage, comes in on special hits, etc etc. a scarfape over magmortar gives you the ability to beat all the same leads, except gyarados, as well as giving you the ability to revenge kill fast stuff and get u-turn for scouting. celebi over zapdos helps you to beat out bulky waters that ruin ape and gyara's fun as well as an electric resist, so you might want to toy with that idea. just food for thought.

Infernpe @ Choice Scarf
Evs: 36 Atk / 252 SpA / 220 Spe
Nature: Rash
- Overheat
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Hidden Power Ice

Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
Evs: 4 hp/252 Atk/252 SpD
Nature: Adamant
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Brick Break / Rock Slide
- Pursuit

Celebi @ Leftovers
Evs: 252 Hp/220 Def/36 Spe
Nature: Bold
- Leech Seed
- Grass Knot
- Thunderwave
- Recover
 
hm, that looks pretty good stathakis. I mainly wanted to use magmortar just to show off its novelty set. thanks for the help, im going to test it out now :)
 
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