Team A7X

[Nirvana]

Overview: Ok guys it's been a while since i last made a RMT. But with the new Plat improvements, I couldn't help but try to make a new team using the advantages that most Pokemon gained during this little improvement. Anyways this team will be mostly offensive, with a little "Syn"ergy involved. The goal of this is mainly to rid the opponent of all his counters to my sweepers using these pokemon. That'll open up a sweep for the DD Mence or the SD Scizor. Here's the team

Changes will be marked in a different color font

M. Shadows

Gengar@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
Levitate
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

Trick
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power (Ice)/Focus Blast
Thunderbolt/Focus Blast

My lead. It serves as a great Pokemon to start off a battle with its already immense speed, now being complimented with an awesome amount of special attack. I gave it Trick though for slower leads that will be really hindered by it. Also i'll use it if I suspect a Sash'd lead. (Bronzong/Azelf) I am not really fond of Focus Blast's accuracy AT ALL, so that's why i pretty much gave it all of its signature attacks except Focus Blast. However, if it's THAT important i'll consider trying to work with the accuracy.

Zacky Vengeance

Zapdos@Leftovers
Bold OR Calm Nature
Pressure
252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe OR 252 HP / 220 SpD / 36 Spe

Thunderbolt
Heat Wave
Hidden Power (Grass/Ice)
Roost

A defensive Pokemon of mine. I'm thinking of whether I should use it as a special wall or a physical wall though. With Heat Wave I've ditched Light Screen and Toxic. This also allows for a little more coverage. I'm still debating over Ice/Grass Hidden Power though. So far im thinking Grass though.

The Rev

Heatran@Life Orb/Leftovers
Modest Nature
Flash Fire
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 HP

Lava Plume
Earth Power
Stealth Rock
Dragon Pulse

I admit this moveset's a little flawed. But I needed someone to be able to successfully lay out rocks and Heatran can do it perfectly. I gave it Lava Plume over Fire Blast because I really enjoy having a nice burn here and there to ruin physical sweepers. Dragon Pulse is obviously for Dragons and provides an awesome amount of coverage that Earth Power and Lava Plume take care off. Thing is should i go for the extra power with Life Orb or the extra endurance with Leftovers?

Johnny Christ
Suicune@Leftovers
Bold Nature
Pressure
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA

Surf
Calm Mind
Rest
Sleep Talk

A new addition to my team to get rid of that accursed Mamoswine. I've never tried it before but it seems so godly against anything that doesn't resist water. I consider it the TRUE Johnny Christ because it seems a little close to invincible lol.

Synyster Gates

Scizor@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
Technician
232 HP / 252 Atk / 24 Def

Bullet Punch
Swords Dance
Superpower
X-Scissor

This is one badass bug. Technician STAB Bullet Punch has 90 BP, making it the most powerful priority move (besides a STAB Sucker Punch). Combined with a Swords Dance it annihalates anything that can't resist steel. Superpower is also a blessing, as now it can almost match up to it's bug rival, Heracross in the fighting type department. X-Scissor is also a reliable STAB move that can kill Psychic types and Dark types that annoy me. Truly one of the most awesome improvements to the metagame. (also it was my favorite Pokemon since G/S so that's a real blessing for me lol.)

The Deathbat (or Death Dragon lol)

Salamence@ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Fang/Stone Edge
Earthquake

Another freaking beastly improvement for one of my favorite pokemon. Outrage DD Mence is a complete onslaught on any unprepared opponent. And with all the anti-steel pokemon on my team, it usually is completely unstoppable. The only thing bad about this is that it takes even more spotlight away from my favorite Dragon (Dragonite).

Anyways that's the team. I know there's prolly a buncha holes everywhere, but I think it has reasonable type coverage and type weaknesses. I just need help on some moves and items so please make any suggestions necessary to making this team unbeatable!

 

[Stathakis]

never been a fan of tran and magnezone on the same team =/
also, define synergy, since you just kinda throw the word out there without really describing what you're trying to accomplish, other than battering the enemy team.

aaanyways this team is horridly weak to mamoswine, and well actually anything that can get its hands on ground/ice will really screw you up. this means scarftran especially, as well as scarfgross, lo/specs skymin, etc. and to further your troubles, this just kinda feels like 6 pokemon slapped together mindlessly, which is great and all as long as you put a little thought into it. so lets assume you intend to batter the opponent until salamence or scizor can pick up the scraps or whatever. so, in terms of stuff, I'd scarf heatran so that you can revenge kill stuff after gengar's scarf is gone. this also gives you some way to revenge kill skymin and mamoswine after they try and come in. imo magnezone does absolutely nothing for this team really, other than just compound your fucking massive mamo weakness, so imo it needs to go, seeing as you really any problems at all with steels >.> so if you take him out you have a free spot. and you can use that free spot for something like crocune, who not only helps you to take on things like heatran and mamoswine, but also absorb status for the team and sweep in and of himself half the time. now, with these changes, you have the advantage of being able to deal with ice sharders, as well as a solid form of revenge killing should gengar trick away his scarf. speaking of which, should blissey try any funny business, she has no place trying to fight this team, and niether does deoxys-s, two things that may hamper your sweepers a bit. with magnezone gone for a solid defensive pokemon, you arent left as vulnerable to things like mamoswine and scarftran who plagued you earlier. and it seems that aside from the occasional zapdos, lately teams have been very weak to crocune. now, of course looking at it again, you really don't like zapdos too much, so consider stone edge > fire fang on salamence to kill off zapdos without getting locked into outrage, which makes life so much easier for suicune and scizor. also, on mence go jolly as well, seeing as you really do have to outspeed some of the big threats after a dd, like duggy and whatnot, and most if not all zapdos before the dd, allowing you to do big damage to it as well. dunno what else to say, it looks like any run of the mill offensive team that'll work just fine if played by anyone with half a brain.

 

[Nirvana]

all right dude thanks. it was kinda slapped together mindlessly, but I did put SOME thought into it. I think crocune would be a great addition to this team though. (why is it always mamoswine that harms my teams greatly -_-) but ill go update it as soon as i can and thanks

 

[Zephiel]

I like this team. It's quite similar to ones I make.

However, your Heatran is begging for a Scarf. This can be solved by making your lead this:

Metagross @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Jolly (+Spe, -SpA)
- Trick
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- filler

Uses Trick, sets up Stealth Rock, then Explodes. It's pretty great.

Another big problem I see here is the huge vulnerability to Electric moves and pokemon, such as Zapdos. Nothing in your team resists Electric. You could consider a Mamoswine with Substitute or Stealth Rock depending on your needs.

Mamoswine (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 172 HP / 136 Atk / 196 Spe
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
- Substitute
- Ice Shard
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Also now Mamoswine don't run CB as much in my experience, so you might like to try this:

Suicune @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric]

Sweeps teams like no tomorrow.

Another thing you could do is replace Salamence and Suicune with a Kingdra which has become quite the beast:

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -Spe)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

This one I am not so sure about however. This will free you a slot.

If you decide to test these, don't just mindlessly put them on this thread. Try them out first.

 

[Stathakis]

jesus when you replace 4 pokemon you're basically making a new team >.>

 

[Zephiel]

If you had read carefully, you'd know that I was offering options. Not telling him to change his whole team.

 

[Nirvana]

lol thanks for all the suggestions guys. I totally forgot that Kingdra also now has the DD+Outrage combo. I think i may experiment with that if this team doesn't do so hot. I'll consider all those options but I picked Gengar as a Trick Scarf because even if I dont trick, it can still put the Scarf to awesome use

 

[Stathakis]

If you had read carefully, you'd know that I was offering options. Not telling him to change his whole team.

I'm pretty sure that you don't have to tell anyone that "locune is an option" or "mamo is an option." I'm pretty sure they know that it exists. and since you didnt really provide any good reasoning, If I was the OP, I'd be like "does this crackpot take me for an idiot? does he think I don't know these sets exist? he may as well link me to the analysis rather than post sets that have hardly anything to do with my thread"

to suggest 4 pokemon, you'd better have some really good reasoning, because otherwise you may as well just be like here I'm suggesting that you use these options over your current team, which tbh is basically saying, here I think you should change 4 pokemon on your team without giving you more than a sentence of explanation.

 

[Zephiel]

When did I mention he had to change all 4 pokemon in his team? I gave him several options and choose the ones which he liked (all of those were common options on offensive teams, so I gave him those options in order to improve his team, I was merely reminding him of those options), and he didn't like the Metagross idea. I'm not stupid enough to realise that he would change all 4 pokemon in his team in a single post without good convincing, making him change 4 pokemon in his team wasn't simply my intention. You're talking as if you can read my mind. In fact, Suicune and Kingdra shouldn't even be together. They're both water types and have very little synergy.

If I was the OP, I'd be like "does this crackpot take me for an idiot? does he think I don't know these sets exist?

Every serious battler knows nearly all OU sets. However, while most team raters would give suggestions in proper words, I thought I was doing him a good thing by giving it in format.

If we continue on your logic, that means that team rating is for nothing, because you can't suggest options. Yes, I know that they know all the options! But we have to remind them, THAT is the point of team rating. You're talking like team rating is making fools of other people.

 

[Stathakis]

but when you suggest four guys without any explanation, it doesnt seem like you add anything to the team, because all you're doing is reminding him of ou sets, which, as we both agree, he no doubt knows. team rating is telling people why they should use the sets you suggest, not just listing off sets.

 

[Zephiel]

team rating is telling people why they should use the sets you suggest

That's exactly what I was doing.

I was giving explanations.

However, your Heatran is begging for a Scarf. This can be solved by making your lead this:

Uses Trick, sets up Stealth Rock, then Explodes. It's pretty great.

That is an explanation. He's not stupid. He can understand that. That's more than enough explanation.

Another big problem I see here is the huge vulnerability to Electric moves and pokemon, such as Zapdos. Nothing in your team resists Electric. You could consider a Mamoswine with Substitute or Stealth Rock depending on your needs.

I suggested Mamoswine because of Electric types. That is an explanation. I also said that he could put Mamoswine with Stealth Rock if he takes it from Heatran. An explanation, once more.

Sweeps teams like no tomorrow.

Instead of replacing Suicune with another pokemon, I suggested that he go far more offensive. With Life Orb and 2 more moves, do you really think I need to explain myself?

Another thing you could do is replace Salamence and Suicune with a Kingdra which has become quite the beast:
This one I am not so sure about however. This will free you a slot.

I said that he could replace Salamence (which is very fragile and vulnerable nowadays with Scizor, Mamoswine, Stealth Rock flying around) and Suicune (they don't work together as they are both water types and lack synergy) with one single pokemon, in order to free up a slot. While you may say that this part had little explanation, I can easily retort, saying that

This one I am not so sure about however.

On that one, it means that he could try it if he wanted to, he didn't have to.

 

[Zephiel]

No way! Don't replace Heatran! He has vital resistances and he's amazing in Platinum. He also has good synergy with Scizor.

Mamoswine would really help you with Zapdos and Jolteon, like I mentioned before.

I dislike Salamence, it's weak to Stealth Rock and extremely vulnerable, even when it's bulky.

 

[Nirvana]

you're right even though Mence saved my ass last time, i think i might remove it since people will expect it a lot more. I'm also considering a dual screen deoxys as a lead

 

[HD]

I'd love to know why your running SD and Defensive EVs with SuperPower.
Replace SuperaPower with BB, because your wasting SDs and defensive EV by using SP.

 

[Nirvana]

well i was just using Superpower because of its higher BP. i was thinking that DS would cancel out the Superpower but i guess it DOES work in the other way a lot more