Team Buuuuulk

Griiifin

At a Glance:
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Ahhh! After typing my whole RMT, my power went out and I lost all of it! So here's my retyped RMT, Team Buuuuulk! (Edits made in BOLD)

MetaGross:
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@Lum Berry
Adamant (+Att, -S.Att)
248 Hp, 232 Att, 28 Spe
-StealthRock
-Bullet Punch
-Explosion
-Meteor Mash

Why?
Ahhh Metagross, possibly my favorite lead of the current meta. With his bulk+attack he can most certainly hold his own. His moveset was based on his awesome STABs and stealthrock because I know he can safely put it out without risking himself, with his bulk. The Lum berry is so he doesn't get OHKO by a poor judgement of me, and switching into a fire mon before I can get out my Suicune. There's not much to say besides that, since there isn't alot of justifying to do because Metagross has saved me several times, and anyone who's played against him as a lead knows how dangerous he can be if used right.

Heatran:
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@Leftovers
Timid (+Spe, -Att)
252 Spe, 252 S.Att, 4 S.Def
Moveset:
-Substitute
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-Toxic

Why?
Yeah antimeta game! Considering I needed a fire mon, and heatran not only meets that, but if used right is the best antimeta mon currently, he was hard to resist. There shouldn't be alot of justifying this one, because Heatran is really a staple in current meta game. He has substitute to hide like the beast he is, Fire blast as a BADASS STAB fire move, toxic because I'm cool like that, and then Earth Power for really everything else. His EV's are put into get Speed, and increase his S.Att, because if he's using sub, bulk doesn't really matter at all.

Suicune:
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@Leftovers
Timid (+Spe, -Att)
252 S.Att, 252 Spe, 4 Hp
Moveset:
-Hidden Power Electric
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Calm Mind

Why?
Suicune was put on my team to replace Swampert, and I'm beyond statisfied with that decision. With Hp, allready ok bulk, and good predictions, I can safely get up 2/3 Calm Minds, and from there it's all over. I love suicune as a late game sweeper, though he was originally put on my team just for the water stab moves. His moveset is based on getting calm mind, and then mindlessly sweeping with surf as a STAB and Ice beam to take care of those pesky grass mon. If played right, he's a powerful sweeper, and I love him for that.

Flygon:
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@Choice Scarf
Jolly (+Spe, -S.Att)
252 Spe, 252 Att, 4 Sp.D
Moveset:
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Thunder Punch
-U-Turn

Why?
Flygon is a revenge killer, and he's good at what he does. Switch in, wipe 'em with either Outrage or Earthquake as STABs, U-Turn out. Simple, yet effective. I've been using Flygon non-competitevly since Sapphire, and I'm still loving him. His moveset is based on Revenge killing, so it naturally includes Outrage and Earthquake, especially since they're both STABs, and then U-Turn to switch out and still do damage on the way out.

Machamp:
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@Leftovers
Adamant (+Att, -S.Att)
252 Hp, 252 Att, 4 Spe
Moveset:
-Payback
-Dynamic Punch
-Sleep Talk
-Rest

Why?
I primarily use machamp to switch in and absorb statuses because when he rests they're all over-rided anyway, but besides that his other primary function is late game pre-sweeping. With his bulk+Hp EV's+ Rest, He can be an extremely useful tank/presweep is used right. Originally I wasn't to fond of putting him on my roster, but a friend convinced me and I'm not regretting it at all. His moveset should seem fairly obvious since I already explained rest, but Rest to absorb and regain as I tank, and sleeptalk to still do damage to set up for a sweep.

Scizor:
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@Leftovers
Adamant (+Att, -S.Att)
252 Att, 248 Hp, 8 Sp.D
Moveset:
-Bullet Punch
-Swords Dance
-Superpower
-Roost

Why?
Ohhhh hoooooow I looooooove thisssssss mon. Probably my favorite current pokemon, with his bulk of 252 Hp and good predicting I can safely get in a couple of Swords Dances, and from there it's game over. With 252 Hp and Roost, he's quite hard to take down, and he just flat out destroys most of everything, and I have superpower for if they try and wall me. I love this mon so much for his ridiculous damage if he's set up right I throw him in just about all my teams, and this one wasn't an exception.

That's really it, so please leave suggestions telling me what to improve on, all constructive criticsm is good, so please don't hold back. Thank you all in advance.
 
It actually looks pretty solid. Can you think of anything off the top of your head you have trouble with?

Thunder Punch is on Flygon to get rid of waters, right? How is that working out? With Choice Scarf, it should be fast enough, but how about Choice Scarf Starmie? How does the set fare against defensively strong waters? Do you switch out?
 
IMHO, you should replace the EV's on suicune, from the current set to a bulky set. Bulky waters are win. And, you really have NO bulk whatsoever on your team, aside from Scizor to some extent.

So, I would replace your current Suicune spread with


252 Sp.Atk/252 Def/4 Spe

The reasoning behind this that that Calm Mind already boosts your Sp.Def, so you don't need EV's in there, but Def EV's will allow you to survive physical moves such as Thunderpunch, STAB Close Combat, ect.

252 Sp.Atk for the power boost, and 4 Spe to outspeed other suicunes with 4 HP instead of speed, and the same nature.
 
Just scrolled through your team, a few nit-picks.

Metagross want Explosion, aftwer he rocks, he might take down the other lead, if not... ALLAH!

Machamp... 4 Sp. Def EV's into Speed would help, as you then outspeed some Blissey, and in Sp. Def it doesn't prevent any KO's.

Scizor, same as Machamp, however take 4 out of HP, so as not to have a Stealth Rock number. (248/252/8) And finally, LO over Leftovers.

Good Luck on the team!
 
Your Suicune's EVs are so messed up. You're still more or less an offensive Suicune with 252 Sp. Atk EVs and a Timid nature. Either stick with your old Calm Mind offensive set with max Sp. Atk and Speed or use CroCune if you want max Def and Calm Mind.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp. Def
-Surf
-Calm Mind
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

This set is bulky to take on many physical threats, and Calm Mind boosts your already impressive Special Defense. After a few Calm Minds, this thing can sweep unprepared teams. This can be your go-to pokemon for many physical threats.

Good luck!

-ShinyAzelf
 
Allright, I'm gonna try out my old Suicune, and CroCrune and see which one works out better with my playing style and team.
 
Hello. Decent team. I think I have a few suggestions that might improve it furthermore. The first thing that stands out to me when I look at your team is the lack of reliable switch-in to Fighting- type moves. This is basically caused by the fact that none of the members on your team resist Fighting- or are immune to it. This will automatically make threats that utilize this type, such as Infernape, Lucario and Breloom among many other, problematic as anything that switches into a CC for example will take huge amounts of damage. The first thing you can do to alleviate this weakness is to change Suicune's EV spread to 172 HP / 112 SpA / 224 Spe. The speed EVs will allows you to outspeed Adamant Lucario as well as Breloom and Jolly Gyarados and hit them with the approriate move while retaining some bulk to take hits. Offensive Suicune is meant to be a fast hard hitter, so I would strongly advocate this spread or a standard 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe. Now, out of Metagross, Heatran, Suicune, Flygon, Machamp and Scizor, Machamp is the most replaceable. In Machamp spot, a Tinkerbell Celebi will work best. The moveset is (Modest nature): HP Fire | Thunder Wave | Leaf Storm | Rest / Recover with 232 HP / 244 SpA / 32 Spe as an EV spread and LO as an item. Not only does it provide a Fighting- type resist and a Breloom and Suicune counter (which you lack), but it also has excellent synergy with the rest of your team, completing a F/W/G core and the Cele-Tran combo.

Ok, so my next suggestion will be changing Scizor to the CB version over the SD one. Use the following set of moves: Bullet Punch | Superpower | U-turn | Pursuit with a CB. The reason why I am suggesting CB Scizor is because it packs more immediate power, a stronger Bullet Punch to revenge kill threats like DD Dragonite and the fact that CB Scizor pairs really well with Scarf Flygon. With U-turn being on both their movesets, prediction will be much easier and you will easily take control of the match and switch-in and out accordingly.

As for minor changes, I think you should consider using Explosion instead of Toxic on Heatran. Explosion suits this kind of offensive much better than Toxic and gives Heatran some sort of wall-breaking capabilities and can come in handy in some tricky situations as a last resort. Toxic is mainly for bulky waters but your team handle those quite well especially with Tinkerbell Celebi on the team that can take advantage of those bulky Water- switch-ins to start it's offensive onslaught or spread paralysis. If you do decide to opt for Explosion, go for a Naive nature to avoid lowering your attack. Stone Edge is also a decent alternative over Thunder Punch on Flygon as Celebi + Suicune cover bulky Waters really well while Stone Edge hits Zapdos for SE damage and can prove to be useful in a lot of difficult situations.
 
Nosferalto said:
Hello. Decent team. I think I have a few suggestions that might improve it furthermore. The first thing that stands out to me when I look at your team is the lack of reliable switch-in to Fighting- type moves. This is basically caused by the fact that none of the members on your team resist Fighting- or are immune to it. This will automatically make threats that utilize this type, such as Infernape, Lucario and Breloom among many other, problematic as anything that switches into a CC for example will take huge amounts of damage. The first thing you can do to alleviate this weakness is to change Suicune's EV spread to 172 HP / 112 SpA / 224 Spe. The speed EVs will allows you to outspeed Adamant Lucario as well as Breloom and Jolly Gyarados and hit them with the approriate move while retaining some bulk to take hits. Offensive Suicune is meant to be a fast hard hitter, so I would strongly advocate this spread or a standard 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe. Now, out of Metagross, Heatran, Suicune, Flygon, Machamp and Scizor, Machamp is the most replaceable. In Machamp spot, a Tinkerbell Celebi will work best. The moveset is (Modest nature): HP Fire | Thunder Wave | Leaf Storm | Rest / Recover with 232 HP / 244 SpA / 32 Spe as an EV spread and LO as an item Not only does it provide a Fighting- type resist and a Breloom counter, but it also has excellent synergy with the rest of your team, completing a F/W/G core and the Cele-Tran combo.

Ok, so my next suggestion will be changing Scizor to the CB version over the SD one. Use the following set of moves: Bullet Punch | Superpower | U-turn | Pursuit with a CB. The reason why I am suggesting CB Scizor is because it packs more immediate power, a stronger Bullet Punch to revenge kill threats like DD Dragonite and the fact that CB Scizor pairs really well with Scarf Flygon. With U-turn being on both their movesets, prediction will be much easier and you will easily take control of the match and switch-in and out accordingly.

As for minor changes, I think you should consider using Explosion instead of Toxic on Heatran. Explosion suits this kind of offensive much better than Toxic and gives Heatran some sort of wall-breaking capabilities and can come in handy in some tricky situations as a last resort. Toxic is mainly for bulky waters but your team handle those quite well especially with Tinkerbell Celebi on the team that can take advantage of those bulky Water- switch-ins to start it's offensive onslaught or spread paralysis. If you do decide to opt for Explosion, go for a Naive nature to avoid lowering your attack. Stone Edge is also a decent alternative over Thunder Punch on Flygon as Celebi + Suicune cover bulky Waters really well while Stone Edge hits Zapdos for SE damage and can prove to be useful in a lot of difficult situations.
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Ok, I read through this, and I decided to replace Machamp with a Rotom to be immune to Ground, Normal, and Fighting. What're are your views on this? i.e. Movesets, Natures, EV's. With that change I might also switch my Suicune to a CroCune set. Do you think that that's a good idea?
 
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