Team I cant think of names for my Team

[Wafflez]

I rest in Peace,You rest in Peices. First Ou Rmt

Hi everyone .My names n00b lyf3(No that is NOT my real name if u havnt realized it).Well im pretty much a novice in competitive battle...Been about 6-8 months since i started competitive =P.Well this is the best team ive made so far and ive perfected it as much as possible for my playstyle.Just wanted to show what you guyz think and if you had any suggestions =P.Well here goes my first RMT :D

Oh and changes will be in bold...So NOW here goes my first Rmt


At A First Glance

Under the Magnification Glass (Microscopes are for nerds >.<)

(T3h 4w3s0m3n3s5) Swampert @ Leftovers
Torrent
252Hp/4 Spe/252Def
Relaxed
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Roar
Stealth rock

Good ol' Swampert.Most definitely my fav lead in the game.This guy can take hits like a champ and even survive stuff like explosion.The initial plan is to basicly set up rocks and then scout as much as possible.I usually get like 3-4 of his pokes revealed all of the time.Sometimes even all 6 while i only have to reveal 1-2.He also sometimes takes out stuff like mence,Heatran,Luke Etc.I mostly just roar wen i see them the first time cuz 90% of the time there not gona risk it and switch out and if i see them again...BOOM! Well mostly anyway unless that guy is conservative as hell.The Ev spreads let me take on physical hits better,specially keep those annoying mences in check.The 4 speed is much of a filler and is gona let me out speed other -Speed swamperts XD.The leads he looses to are REALLY less in number.The only time im forced to retreat are with Roserades and Brelooms (Ive seen like 2 of them as lead so far).I mostly just risk getting grass knoted with Infernape as for a few weeks i havnt seen much with knot and just set up mah rocks.If he uses fake out then im pretty safe cuz i doubt hes gona take knot instead of its Stabs.As you can oviously see the nickname is just retarted.I mean its like a man like blue thing....Theres not any witty nicknames to go with that =L.The nickname for this guy is also one of the main reasons im making this rmt cuz i really dont know any place where i can ask a stupid question like this.I doubt even such a sub-forum exsists here and even if it did i really dont think ppl would enjoy clicking a thread for such a stupid question =P.Please help?Il give cookies =].And with reserade and breloom i usually go to rotom to take the grass attack\Sleep and then act accordingly.Well i love this guy and if you ever face me in shoddy (Highly unlikely tho i dont like shoddy much.Why? Mostly cuz of the unhelpful team builder that takes ages to make a team in.)Well anyway..Time for top 10 leads =P

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:Well not much of a problem i just stealth rock 1st turn while he either switches or gets the rocks down himself.Then i mostly just go to Rotom to make sure i dont get exploded on.

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:Annoying -.-.....Well some of them carry knot nowadays so if thats the case no rocks for me =L.But if thats not the case then it goes something like this....I use rocks first turn while he either gets rocks down himself or taunts me.If its taunt then hes gona get his rocks the next turn so i use ice beam to waste the turn basicly.Then i go to Rotom to hopefully take the explosion.If thats not the case hes U-turning.

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: W\e dont care much.I get my rocks down he tricks me i switch etc etc etc.

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:Firstly i say Hi to my fellow muddy aquatic homie.Then i get my rocks up and he gets his.Then he either switches or roars himself.Just luck which one hits.

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:There ALWAYS going to Taunt.Why? There stupid like that.I just Ice beam which nearly k0s.Then the next turn i kill him with another while he gets his rocks down.

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:Ehh get rocks up then someone gets blown away (Cant remember who was faster).

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:I mostly just stay in if it has grass knot im dead...If it has Fake out then i get to get my Rocks up and yah go roaring.

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:Kinda annoying tbh.I usually go to rotom right away cuz i dont want swampy to be asleep.If its a hypnosis i go back to swampy.If its rocks i just spam discharges till it dies\Switches.

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:Dsnt bother me at all.He either gets his rocks down or switches to some kinda flier.If rocks is the case they just switch the next turn cuz theres a good chance of me Eqing that turn,so i roar away helping him do a double switch ;D.

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:Lulz.Love this thing so much.Its hilarious lol.I get my rocks up and let him do whatever the hell he wants.Sometimes i just ice beam for fun lol.Then i roar away and laugh for a while =].

(Swords n' Bulets)Scizor @ Choice Band
Adamant
252Atk/248Hp/8Spe
Bullet Punch
Pursuit
U-turn
Superpower

CBscizor.Honestly do i even need to explain this?Ive been in shoddy for like a week and ive already memorized his discription.But il explain a bit anyway cuz ive actually read that RMT rules post and they said to explain every member.Well this is CBscizor.The most used and probably most feared poke in the game.Also probably the best trapped in existance.Like EVERY other team hes very important for my team taking out threats like gengar,Mence,Ttar and fucking up anything that decides to try and take a hit from him.He also helps out swampert at scouting with U-turn which scares away those Roserades and then letting Swampert scout again.I honestly dunno why those 8 speed Evs are there.All scizor basicly needs is those Att evs.Since i had some left i put them on Hp.But still i was a bit curious so checked smogon and i found this....Im too lazy to read the description there which might have the answere to this mystery so yah.Fear him.

(Fear Factor) Gyrados @ Leftovers
Adamant
152hp/72Atk/96Def/184Spe
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Frustration\Return
Taunt

Teh God of the Sea =3.I mean how can you hate this guy?After a DD or Two U cannot stop him.The only reason a word such as 6-0 was invented was him (Well 6-0 isnt a word but yah u get the idea).I honestly dont want to explain ovious pokes like this buy w\e im boared and this is a great way to kill time.Well gyrados is one of my 2 bulky sweepers that after a Dd are simply overkill.Hes the REAL bulky water of my team as i mostly just scout with swampert till it dies cuz i really dont like him other than a lead for some reason.This is another Ev spreat stolen right from Smogon as every other will be.Then comes the only thing that dsnt make this team 100% standard.Return\Frustraion.Call i w\e you like just deppends on wether ur Emo or not.I found this in some RMT.Cant remember whose it was but i just loved it .It basicly gives you perfect type coverage (I think cuz i havnt seen any Not Very Effectives so far.) I rly likes the Ev spreads they came up with.The Hp and Def Evs are for me to survive in one of those "what if" Situations that i cant remember lol..But the speed lets me outspeed jolly ttars and starmies,gengar,latias and stuff after a DD.

(Faith)Latias @ Expert Belt
Timid
252Spe/252SpA/4Hp
Grass Knot
Surf
Draco Meteor
Hidden Powah! (Fire)
I started out with Magnezone in this slot.But then i found this team somewhere in the internet cant remember where which had almost the same team as the previous version of this team.I really liked his version so i copied tried it out.And it was awesome :D...So now i have Latias and Rotom in here.Well this is a bait latias set.The most prominent counter to a DDtar is no doubt scizor...This sole purpose of this set is to prevent that.The expert belt is to bluff a Scarf.Latias lures a lot of scizors so wen he decides to show up i simply k0 with Hp fire.Well yah sure Magnezone does it better but i prefer this cuz it keeps a lot of threats in check and gives me that awesome draco meteor.That thing is just monstrous. And I also get like a +21BP to it thanks to expert belt =3.The evs are just maximizing my speed and Spc.Att and the 4Hp lets me survive a +5 Jirachi Flash Cannon (Yah i was like HOLY SHIT wen she survived as well).I opt for Grass Knot over Thunderbolt cuz Swampert is THAT annoying.Besides stuff like suicuine gets hit harder with it anyway.I also really dont need to 4x Gyra cuz Meteor is just as awesome.The surf is pretty ovious taking out stuff like infernape.

(Made in China)Rotom-f\h\c\s\w @ Leftovers
Bold
252Hp/212Def/36SpDef/8 Spe
Rest
Sleep Talk
Discharge
Will-o-Wisp

Gota luv this guy.Hes just pure win.Well i needed a rapid spin blocker (I really enjoy fucking up mences and gyras) and something to take explosion.At the start i was using a gimmick gengar set but then i found this.The guy i stole Rotom and Latias idea from was using a SubCharge Rotom if i remember correctly.But i was having some problems with status so i opt for this one.The main reason i like him is cuz he just walls the fuck outa stuff like Metagross,Scizor (Wisp then laugh at 30% pirsuits) and a whole lot more.I also dont mind electivires getting in on the Discharges cuz it dsnt really matter cuz none of them has broken through this guy before unless you count the time WoW missed 4 times....Hes also my check to the whole Aquatic kingdom as well.The Evs max out his deffensive potential cuz i really dont take many hits from the special aspect anywayz.Besides i have like the two best special walls in the game..Latias and Ttar.Thanks to Twist Of Fate for suggesting this =PWell cant think of anything else to say =P.

(Rawrrrr) Tyranitar @ Lum Berry
Jolly
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
Crunch
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Dance


Saved the best for last.The main powerhouse of my team. This guy is a monster.After a DD it boosts his already Epic attack to "OMFGWTFBBQ11!!!1!"-ish levels.He has to be the best Dancer in the game and after machamp and scizor is dead can basicly sweep basicly the whole metagame. Crunch and Stone edge gives me that awesome Stab combinations and earthquake is for taking out most metals and stuff.Now for the million dollar question...Jolly or Adamant? Well this is basicly ur preferance. Wether you like a Ninja or a Knight or something like that.Adament gives you a huge power boost but jolly lets you outspeed +Speed Gengars,Starmies etc.I go for jolly because i really dont want annoying pokes like starmie to stop my rampage.Besides i think of it as If i take Adamant i get about a +50 dammage on my hit but if i take jolly I get to give another hit which is probably gona be something high.I keep lum berry on this guy mostly cuz i really cant find a lot of safe switches for him without getting some dammage in the process.So mostly what i do is go on rotoms and dance up when there probably gona wisp.This also works with a LOT of other stuff and it makes me almost copletely toxic spikes proof (I really dont get him out much mostly at late game so yah dont have to make more than 1 switch a lot) other than swampert but hes probably dead anyway who cares?Though i am seriusly considering a Bari Bari with Fire punch instead of EQ cuz Im having trouble killing them nowadays.Well Ttar has to be my most fav poke competetivewise.He has saved my ass tons of times and im pretty sure hes gona do it a lot more as well.

 

[Wafflez]

Threat List


Red=Dangerous.Can own my whole team if not taken care of properly.
Orange=A threat.Can cause problems if not take care of properly.
Green=Not a problem and isnt something to be worried about.Much....

Abomasnow:Well since there always a lead its kinda annoying to have to switch swampert.But other than that it can easily be taken care of by Scizor,Latias.

Aerodactyl: I usually Ice beam as 90% of the time there gona taunt.Now since there gona get k0d by the next ice beam they usually just get the rocks up and then die.Either that or Rocks first turn and taunt\switch(I doubt thatl ever happen) next.W\e dont rly care.

Azelf = Annoying >.>.Some are also carrying grass knot so could be trouble for swampy =L.But i just try for rocks and hope they try to predict the switch and get there rocks up as well.If they taunt i Ice beam 2nd turn and go to Rotom to take the U-turn,Explosion.I have yet to see a sweeper version but i rly dont think its much to worry about.

Blissey =Stupid Fat whore >.>.Well other than walling the living shit outa Latias i really dont see it as a threat.Its also a great oppurtunity for ttar to dance up\take the wave\toxic. And did i mention that its a fat whore?

Breloom=I hate this thing soooo much!!! But its rather a annoyance than a threat.Usually wen this thing shows up i go to rotom to take the spore.If hes not alive the next near useless member at that point.Then i have to take it out with Latias And Scizor.I usually have to get hit by a Focus punch or something like that as its probably gona Sub up when i go to scizor\lati.

Bronzong=I mostly just take it out with rotom as its the safest thing to do.I really dont like to see Latias getting blown up while i realize its heatproof.

Celebi=Well this thing is pretty annoying and causes problems sometimes but its not much of a threat and is easily taken out by Scizor.Really pisses me off if they have Hp fire >.<.I am thinking of making this orange tho..

Creselia=Meh...Tyranitar is a 100% counter to this thing as crunch is probably gona do some dammage and the sandstorm makes that moonlight to 25%.Gyra can taunt it and shut it down completely as well.Not a problem for Scizor either.

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Dragonite/Salamence=Well im too lazy to write it twice for them because there the same thing with a slight change in stats imho.Well namely DDmence is a big threat and can prolly sweep me easly if not taken care of.Well if he gets k0d by swampert than its a big relief.Even if i get to scout him then the 50% dammage hel have to work with for the double switch in also helps a lot.I usually just kill dancers with Bullet Punch but if Scizors dead im in big trouble...Ow and Mixmence isnt much of a threat and is checked by Latias,And scizor to some extent.Im also considering to make him into red.

Dusknoir=Lolz love seeing this guy.He has to be one of the best set up fodders there is for Tyranitar.I happily dance up while he tries to wisp me then proceed to rampaging.

Electivire=Lol having no thunderbolt on Latias has some advantages after all =P.The only way this guy can be a threat is after a mortar drive boost.But to get that mortar drive boost he has to face Rotom which will wall the living hell outa him =].Its really not a threat at all because theres no way electivires breaking through rotom.Well without Hax anyway..

Empoleon=Well this guy is pretty much checked by Rotom and Tyranitar (If necessary).But if it can get that pety or w\e boost im in trouble...

Flygon=Not much of a threat.Just see what it gets stuck on and act accordingly....Have yet to come across a non scarfed.

Forretress=I usually go to Rotom to spin block.Latias k0s with hp fire as well.

Gengar=Well yah oviously Scizor.So far havnt been in a situation where hes not dead but id probably be in trouble...Best thing i can do is speed tie with Latias.(They mostly run Hp fire).

Gliscor=Wel apparently i havnt had to face any scenarios where Swampert didnt kill it lol.But its not much of a threat and is easly handeled by Latias,Gyra and I guess scizor if hes switches into a Punch..

Gyrados=Well hes awesome when hes on my side.But when the enemy has one...Not so good.Have to take it out with Rotom And Latias but it does sweep my team once a while.

Heatran=Noob poke >.>.Easily handeled by Ttar,Gyra,Latias (If not scarfed).It mostly shows up on Rotom so if it is scarfed its probably locked into Its Stab fire type so not really a problem.

Heracross=Well not that much of a problem and can be handeled by Latias,Scizor.Basicly just act accordingly to what hes locked into.Have yet to face a non scarfed version.

Hippowdon=Well Swampy dsnt rly care.I rock he rocks then yah roar and stuff...

Infernape=Well a annoying lead....I just go to Latias as it can completely wall the lead.Sd ape and stuff arent all that threatening either imo.

Jirachi=Not much of a problem as a lead.Those Calm Minders got me by the balls a few times but thats just because i suck and my team handles him just fine.Scarfers are kinda annoying sometimes but that side effect of getting locked is gona bite them in the ass a lot of times.

Jolteon=Ttar can scare it away and dance up.Swampert (If alive) and Latias unless its scarfed.Kinda annoying sometimes if it gets in discharges.

Kingdra=Normally its not really a threat..But in Rain Dance teams has potential to sweep me.

Latias=Mostly with scizor.But sometimes i fall to my own trap and get hp fired.Ttar works great as well.If its scarfed then its even easier to kill tbh.

Lucario =Gyrados can pretty much wall the ones without stone edge.If it has Edge then that job goes to rotom. Latias can hp fire for the kill as well.

Machamp=Quite a pain in the ass.Rly bad for poor tyranitar as well =L.I usually go to Rotom and burn it and then its quite harmless for rotom to take down.I usually have to rely on Reveging with Bullet punch if is miss the wisp.A Stabbed Metor is gona hurt him as well.

Magnezone=Other than trapping Scizor and Threatening Gyra Like every other Electric type cant really do anything..

Mamoswine=Those endeavor leads arnt really gona do much as long as rotoms there.I havnt really faced one of these much.Gyra and preferably Scizor can easily take it out.

Metagross =I really dont understand why people like this thing so much.Just stupid imo.Well it aint gona do much when rotoms in the case walling every one of its moves.

Porygon2=These things are really annoying.I usually have to take it out with high powered moves like Draco Meteor and stuff.I think this deserves orage,What do you think? =P

Raikou=Earthquake i guess....I really havnt fought any so far.

Registeel=Other than spreading a lot of status it cant do much.I can easily take it out with Super Power and Earthquake.

Roserade=Well this has to be most deffinetly the most annoying lead.I usually go to rotom to take the sleep powder.But sometimes it gets down its TS's.Which is kinda annoying cuz Ttar gets left with no item.I usually take it out with U-turn and stuff.

Rotom(Any form)=Well works as great set up fodder for Ttar as they normally try to wisp.Scarfers can be countered accordingly to what there locked in.They dont like a Meteor in the face either.

Scizor =This isnt necessarily a "Threat".Its just bad news for ttar if not Lured and killed by Latias Or Rotom OR Gyrados (the luring part only goes for Latias).And with rotom i just wisp which isnt really killing it but if they get burned there preferably used as death fodder.

Skarmory=Well Gyra Taunts it making it useless.Ttar can 2hk0 after a dance.Latias and Rotom can Ohko.So not really a threat at all.

Smeargle=Another annoying lead...I go to Tyranitar to take the spore.The sandstorm takes out its sash.Then to Scizor (Not risking with it baton passing) and take it out.

Snorlax=Fat ass....Cant really do much to me tbh.Preferably Scizor(If no fire punch),Latias can take it out pretty easily tbh.Ttar can set up on it if not a curselax.

Starmie=Well this thing is deffiently a pain in the ass....I can set up with ttar on non hydro pump versions.Basicly i need something at full hp to kill it.Like Scizor takes hit kills with U-turn,Latias takes hit kills with Hp fire,Rotom takes hit kills with discharge...Well yah
Ow you really didnt believe that Hp fire did you?

Suicune=Prolly the biggest threat to my team....Life would be so much easier if a person called cromas (I think thats how u spell it) never existed >.< .Well the only way i can take out crocunes is if i have latias or rotom on when he switches...Other than that the next reliable way is trusty ol'hax =].Offensive cune is also annoying but not as much as a threat as the former.

Swampert=Hit it with stuff like U-turn.Mainly i use either Grass knot Or Super power.

Tentacruel=Aww there goes my Toxic spikes =L..Ow wait i dont have any toxic spikes >.> .Well i just go to rotom to hopefully catch a rapid spin then k0 back with discharge.The sad thing with these explanations is that they never work out..In a situation like this hes prolly gona switch to his electivire and freeze me with ice punch while i missed my Wisp bout 2 times.

Togekiss= Rotom, Latias, Scizor.Can scare it away by blffing a scarf on ttar i guess...

Tyranitar=Lead isnt a problem.Main method is to use Scizor.I can threaten this guy with practicly everyone...But sadly it can also threaten every single one of them back >.>...Choiced ones are handled according to what there stuck in.

Vaporeon=Well not a threat but kinda annoying.Rotom,Latias and Gyrados (Without Hp elec) can handle him just fine.

Weavile=Well Scizor can easily k0.Gyrados can also wall it i guess....

Zapdos=Tyranitar can handle it pretty easily.It wont like meteors a lot either...


Well thats my team.Im hoping to fix up the RMT further but prolly next week or so =P.Hope you guyz liked my team and dont forget to rate =P.And ow yah im not really good at English so plz forgive all spelling mistakes =P.

Note:If any pokemon is not mentioned in the threat list its pure accidental.Please inform me right away.

 

[Quickster]

Welcome to Smogon!
Look at other RMTs and see how they're laid out. If you can't lots of views AND lots of rates, it would be nice to see a nice RMT. Pictures help (arkeis has fantastic pictures imo), as does a Title,a Team Overview and a Final Look. Look at the eeveelution RMT and the "Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer" RMT. They are both well laid out and have fantastic presentation.

Onto the team,
Swampert is not a good lead for your team. Your team really enjoys Stealth Rock support, and Swampert isn't very reliable for getting them up, due to its low speed. I can see that your Swampert has a slight twist to the common Swampert lead: It has Roar. If you want to get reliable Stealth Rock, a fast lead like Azelf would be fantastic. If you want to get switches and SR, a trick lead would be great e.g. Metagross, Jirachi.
I have no problems with Scizor or Gyarados.
You seem to have put a Jolly Nature on your Latias. I'm sure you meant Timid.
Grass Knot seems redudant when you have Surf. Test out Thunderbolt or Dragon Pulse instead of Grass Knot.
Rotom-a is fine.
Tyranitar is fine but I'm questioning the item choice. You didn't say anything about it at all in the description.
Your Team seems extremely weak to Suicune, especially Offensive Cune and Crocune. Your only answer to Suicune is Latias, which is unable to defeat any Suicunes which carry Calm Min and Rest. I'm thinking of a way to solve that problem so I'll edit it in later.

 

[Wafflez]

Welcome to Smogon!
Look at other RMTs and see how they're laid out. If you can't lots of views AND lots of rates, it would be nice to see a nice RMT. Pictures help (arkeis has fantastic pictures imo), as does a Title,a Team Overview and a Final Look. Look at the eeveelution RMT and the "Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer" RMT. They are both well laid out and have fantastic presentation.

Onto the team,
Swampert is not a good lead for your team. Your team really enjoys Stealth Rock support, and Swampert isn't very reliable for getting them up, due to its low speed. I can see that your Swampert has a slight twist to the common Swampert lead: It has Roar. If you want to get reliable Stealth Rock, a fast lead like Azelf would be fantastic. If you want to get switches and SR, a trick lead would be great e.g. Metagross, Jirachi.
I have no problems with Scizor or Gyarados.
You seem to have put a Jolly Nature on your Latias. I'm sure you meant Timid.
Grass Knot seems redudant when you have Surf. Test out Thunderbolt or Dragon Pulse instead of Grass Knot.
Rotom-a is fine.
Tyranitar is fine but I'm questioning the item choice. You didn't say anything about it at all in the description.
Your Team seems extremely weak to Suicune, especially Offensive Cune and Crocune. Your only answer to Suicune is Latias, which is unable to defeat any Suicunes which carry Calm Min and Rest. I'm thinking of a way to solve that problem so I'll edit it in later.

All right il fix it up more but cant do it today cuz gota go soon =L.
Well ive tried all those other than metagross (Idk i hate it..A LOT) but I readlly dont want to have a lead just for one move.Thats pretty dumb in my honest opinion.I really enjoy the ability to scout the opponents team which i think only swampert and hippowdon can do most reliably.So yah swamperts staying ;D.I did try thunderbolt but swampert prooved to be really annoying without a solid move to take it out cuz everything i throw at it does like 30% at most.But il try bolt again and see how the swampert problem works =P.Yah ive seen the cune problem =L its a really annoying.I havnt faced many offensive cunes lately but i remember i got owned once by it not sure.But yah crocune is really annoying unless i have my swampert alive (highly unlikely) any suggestions?

 

[Wafflez]

Bump

 

[ToF]

Change up Swampert's EV spread to 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Sp.Def. You need way more defense EV's to take on LO DD Salamence better as well as Tyranitar. Contrary to what the above poster said in his rate, Swampert makes an excellent lead in today's metagame.

On Latias, Surf and Grass Knot are redundant, so I'd rather you remove Surf for Grass Knot. You can handle Infernape and Heatran nicely since you already have Gyarados, and Thunderbolt will help with your Suicune issues a bit more than Surf would.

I would just run max defense on Rotom-H, or LO Gyarados becomes a bit problem for your team. Run something like 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Speed with the same moveset you currently have to maximize physical defense. You don't really need the extra special defense because you're not protecting a lot of entry hazards like you would need on a stall team.

You have a pretty big LO Starmie weakness. Although nothing can really switch into its attacks, I recommend Scarfing Tyranitar to get the easy revenge-kill with Pursuit. Scarf Tar would also let you pick off lead Roserade's easy before they get both Toxic Spike layers out. Just seems to fit with this team better than DDTar IMO. Gyarados can cover most of your late-game sweeping needs anyway.

 

[Wafflez]

Change up Swampert's EV spread to 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Sp.Def. You need way more defense EV's to take on LO DD Salamence better as well as Tyranitar. Contrary to what the above poster said in his rate, Swampert makes an excellent lead in today's metagame.

On Latias, Surf and Grass Knot are redundant, so I'd rather you remove Surf for Grass Knot. You can handle Infernape and Heatran nicely since you already have Gyarados, and Thunderbolt will help with your Suicune issues a bit more than Surf would.

I would just run max defense on Rotom-H, or LO Gyarados becomes a bit problem for your team. Run something like 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 Speed with the same moveset you currently have to maximize physical defense. You don't really need the extra special defense because you're not protecting a lot of entry hazards like you would need on a stall team.

You have a pretty big LO Starmie weakness. Although nothing can really switch into its attacks, I recommend Scarfing Tyranitar to get the easy revenge-kill with Pursuit. Scarf Tar would also let you pick off lead Roserade's easy before they get both Toxic Spike layers out. Just seems to fit with this team better than DDTar IMO. Gyarados can cover most of your late-game sweeping needs anyway.

Thanks for the rate =]
Well i really dont understand whats up with swamperts and taking a +1 LO Ddmence lol.I mean that statement is everywhere :O...Ive tried running deffensively bulky pert but since i use it as a "suicide lead" to some extent (Idk im just not that conservative i guess?) so taking hits from both sides of the spectrum helps a lot =P.I really dont kno if my argument is or not cuz i still havnt gotten hang of this game all that well.But still il consider it..
Hmm..Never thought of that :O.Il deffinetly try it out.Good point on Rotom as well cuz tbh he dsnt have to take much hits from the special aspect.Il test that as well =P.And yah starmie is a bitch >.>.I basicly need something on Full health as starmie cant rly hope to k0 stuff like Scizor,Rotom and I think it cant k0 latias either...Im not sure tho.I usually have to sacrifise something to kill it.And dont reccomend to scarf ttar hes the best part of the team =O.I might try that as well if i get boared tho lol =P.Well thanks again for the rate

 

[pkmntrainerblue]

I got your PM and you got a pretty good team,
I looked at your team and thought hmmmm.... what could pose a problem then I realized you had a threat list.... so I saw you two largest problems dragonite/salmence and suicune. So now I want to rap this all up into one pokemon to take care of it at first I thought a Scarfgon but it can only 3HKO Suicune in the offensive crocune set then on the normal it will maybe be a 5HKO I looked at it and sighed this will not work and he works so well with Scizor. If you need a way to revenge Dragonite or Salamence if is still viable but he does not got anything on suicune Curse Suicune and your BULKYNESS!!!!!!!!!!!! GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well anyway onto another crack at this after going onto the StrategyDex and going to the Suicune counters part they said boosted physical attacks is what he hates as well at Jolteon and Zapdos (roost) so after thinking a while you could use the noobish but effective Gyrados Electravire Combo. But if you do not want that you could run a Specs Jolteon a choice Specs Jolteon does 91.1% - 107.4% to the more defensive Crocune so you can OHKO with Stealth rocks up and sandstorm if you do not have either you still have a chance to OHKO. Also you do 107.6% - 126.9% to the offensive Crocune so OHKO. I would just use the Specs set right out of the StrategyDex because I have never used it before. Also have HP ice to take care of your pesky dragon problem.

Well I hope you take my rate into consideration and it was a satisfactory rate. Gook Luck!

-Pkmntrainerblue

 

[Wafflez]

I got your PM and you got a pretty good team,
I looked at your team and thought hmmmm.... what could pose a problem then I realized you had a threat list.... so I saw you two largest problems dragonite/salmence and suicune. So now I want to rap this all up into one pokemon to take care of it at first I thought a Scarfgon but it can only 3HKO Suicune in the offensive crocune set then on the normal it will maybe be a 5HKO I looked at it and sighed this will not work and he works so well with Scizor. If you need a way to revenge Dragonite or Salamence if is still viable but he does not got anything on suicune Curse Suicune and your BULKYNESS!!!!!!!!!!!! GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well anyway onto another crack at this after going onto the StrategyDex and going to the Suicune counters part they said boosted physical attacks is what he hates as well at Jolteon and Zapdos (roost) so after thinking a while you could use the noobish but effective Gyrados Electravire Combo. But if you do not want that you could run a Specs Jolteon a choice Specs Jolteon does 91.1% - 107.4% to the more defensive Crocune so you can OHKO with Stealth rocks up and sandstorm if you do not have either you still have a chance to OHKO. Also you do 107.6% - 126.9% to the offensive Crocune so OHKO. I would just use the Specs set right out of the StrategyDex because I have never used it before. Also have HP ice to take care of your pesky dragon problem.

Well I hope you take my rate into consideration and it was a satisfactory rate. Gook Luck!

-Pkmntrainerblue

Thanks for the rate.
Well yah that suicuine is a pain in the ass...Lolz apprently i totally forgot to read the pokedex to see his counters >.>...Lol thanks for passively remiding me =P.Well tbh i really dont like the jolteon idea.But i am gona try out GyraVire =P.Hmm im also thinking of getting a scarfed Rotom.Trick should really screw it up.Well thanks again for the rate :D.

 

[Yilx]

Wow, first of all I'd like to say your team has the exact same line-up mine used to have. If you'd like, I can provide some advice.

I believe you could try giving your Latias a Choice Scarf/Specs set to cripple Suicune with a Trick.

@Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
Timid, 252 SPE, 252 SpA, 4 HP
~Draco Meteor
~Thunderbolt
~Grass Knot/Surf
~Trick

Although it might draw in Tyranitar or Weavile to come in and trap you with Pursuit, they won't enjoy a Draco Meteor to the face. Scizor and Metagross will also attempt to trap you, from my experience, but that's what the other moves are for; and the rest of your team, for that matter.

You could also stop it from setting up with Taunt from Gyarados and take the Surf with Latias or Tyranitar (if he hasn't gotten alot of boosts yet), and attempt to ward him off from there.

 

[Wafflez]

Wow, first of all I'd like to say your team has the exact same line-up mine used to have. If you'd like, I can provide some advice.

I believe you could try giving your Latias a Choice Scarf/Specs set to cripple Suicune with a Trick.

@Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
Timid, 252 SPE, 252 SpA, 4 HP
~Draco Meteor
~Thunderbolt
~Grass Knot/Surf
~Trick

Although it might draw in Tyranitar or Weavile to come in and trap you with Pursuit, they won't enjoy a Draco Meteor to the face. Scizor and Metagross will also attempt to trap you, from my experience, but that's what the other moves are for; and the rest of your team, for that matter.

You could also stop it from setting up with Taunt from Gyarados and take the Surf with Latias or Tyranitar (if he hasn't gotten alot of boosts yet), and attempt to ward him off from there.

Thanks for the rate :D.Well since i use Latias as more of a lure for Scizors which could really fuck up my plan for setting up a sweep with ttar so cant get a Scarf =L.Im planning on testing a scarf on Rotom tho =P.

 

[bluewooper]

Responding to thine PM

Swampert: I see the thinking in your lead set, but there is a better one. Swampert has impressive Hp and Def, allowing him to act as a bulky physical wall. Swampert should be your team's main physical wall, so I would maximize his defenses with a set of 252Hp / 4Atk / 252Def. This will maximize the phyiscal bulkyness and provide your team with a stable physical wall.

Scizor: This is a nitpick, but I can see this help you win a game in every 200. Scizor, IMO, should NEVER have any speed Evs, if it is of the Choice Band variety. The only reason you might want to have the speed Evs is to outspeed Vaporeon, which is handled nicely by Rotom-A, due to its being able to recover from poison. Speed Evs make Scizor lose to an opposing Scizor, because the first superpower will deal ~70%, while the second will OHKO, due to the lowered defense of the opposition. Or, when both Scizor U-Turn, the slower one will maintain the offensive momentum, which is very important for bulky offense. I would recommend a set of 156Hp / 252Atk / 100 SpD (Special Defense). This is the set I ALWAYS run for CB Scizor. Most of the pokemon Scizor counters (or traps) are Specially based, like Latias, Rotom-A, and Celebi. The additional special bulk will allow Scizor to take their attacks better.

Gyarados (really minor nitpick >.>): I like the set, and I think it is a better choice than the Offensive set.

Before I continue, I would like to point something out.

+

= Game Over

Why? Your only check to DD Salamence is Scizor. Scizor has a tendency to use Bullet Punch a lot during battle. Your choiced Scizor can thus get easily trapped by Magnezone (4x Steel Resist), and will be destroyed. With Scizor gone, Salamence can feel free to Dragon Dance, and then rampage with outrage.

Latias: with that little weakness pointed out, I will now provide you with a recommendation which will help defeat DD Salamence. Consider using a Scarf Latias. Scarf Latias makes a good revenge killer, as it will outspeed nearly everything with a +1 in Speed. A Timid nature is always preferred over Modest, because Timid allows you to outspeed +1 Jolly Salamence, which is the main point of Scarf Latias. The most common set is simply 4Hp / 252SpA / 252Spe, which maximizes Special Attack and Speed. a set of Surf / Thunderbolt / Draco Meteor / Trick will allow you counter all of the most frightening DDers around today. Adamant +2(!!) Gyarados is outspeed and meets a quick doom with Thunderbolt. A weakened Tyranitar can be picked off with a Surf. Salamence will be doused with Draco Meteor (do beware of the 10% miss chance, as it will come back to haunt you). Additionally, Latias is armed with Trick, which can put a stop to Crocune, and other pesky Stat-Uppers.
Do not assume that all is better with this new set. Due to the fact that Latias cannot switch attacks, Scizor and Tyranitar can Revenge effectively, especially if Latias has a -2 in Special Attack.

Rotom-A: I have always loved the Resttalk Rotom-A set. You are trying to maximize both Special Defense and Defense, which is the goal. However, there is a more effective Ev spread waiting for you. 252Hp / 120Def / 136SpD (Special Defense), with a Bold nature will maximize both Defense and Special Defense. Rotom-A is meant to be a mixed wall on this team, as Latias is the Special Wall with her monster 130 SpD (Special Defense), while Swampert is the dominant physical wall.

Tyranitar: DD Tyratnitar should not have a Lum Berry, as a Babiri Berry is more useful in preventing Scizor from ruining your sweep.

Good team, and I hope you make my suggested changes and improve it!

P.S: this is the first team I have rated in a month, at the least. :|

 

[Aircraft Cemetery]

Hi,

Got your message, so let's do this!
First of all, this team is already pretty decent. Besides Suicune most threats of the present metagame are covered quite nicely. However Dragon Dancers like Gyarados, Salamence and Dragonite can also become a problem. Offensive and defensive synergy of your team is good as well, so a few moveset changes should be enough to improve your team. Let's go into the details.

Swampert: It is a good lead for your team. Only two things I'd like to mention. First, use max Defense in order to take on opposing Dragons better. You said you wonder why everyone mentions this... well, mainly because it actually is nothing but necessary for Swampert to take physical hits as well as possible. You absolutely need Swampert to survive Mence's +1 LO Outrage or you can be screwed, as Scizor is only a semi-reliable Salamence check. Second, do not treat Swampert like a suicide lead. It is totally viable to lay down Rocks and start phazing until you know the foe's team better. But you shouldn't continue this until Pert is near to dead. You absolutely need it to support Scizor killing threats like DD Mence, D'Nite and Tyranitar later in the game. Your problems against those DDers could have originated in Swanpert being dead too early, so try to be a bit more careful.
As fas as the set is concerned, the only thing you should change are the EVs, 252Def and 4Spe along with 252HP will work. 4Spe EVs in order to outrun other Swampert, so you will be the first to Roar.

Scizor: This set is fine.

Gyarados: Bulky Taunt Gyara is indeed a good choice for your team. The only thing I would change is Return/Frustration to Stone Edge. Even though Stone edge has imperfect accuracy, it hits opposing Gyarados, salamence, Dragonite, Zapdos and many other flying foes for super effective damage, something Return won't achieve against any type. Both options provide great neutral coverage (Return+Waterfall is only resisted by Empoleon in OU, while Stone Edge-Waterfall is also resisted by Breloom) but Stone Edge's ability to hit some things foe SE is really appreciated. Also you don't have any other Rock move in your team.

Tyranitar: Great late game sweeper. In today's metegame you should always use Jolly in my opinion. Outspeeding Starmie, Azelf, latias, Gengar while at least reach a speed tie against Scarf tyranitars is just too importatn. Nothing to change here.

Rotom: Definitely use the Oven or Lawnmower appliance because even if you don't use it it's always handy to bluff their respective signature moves. Rotom-H will make Forretress run away while Rotom-C can bluff Leaf Storm, so Tyranitar and Swampert will think twice before switching in. As fas as the set is concerned I would use an EV spread of 252HP, 56Def, 200SpDef with a calm nature in order to take special hits better.In contrast to what has been said above, I think it is really important totake special hits well as this will help against offensive Suicune ans especially Life Orb Starmie, who will give you major trouble otherwise. With WoW you will still be able to take on physical attackers quite well. The moves are okay.

Latias: Your team is extremely weak to all types of Suicune. Therefore I would suggest changing your Latias set to a set that reliably beats Suicune one on one. Recently I've suggested this Latias in several RMTs, mainly because offensive Suicune is a common threat in today's metagame and many teams just can't handle it. This is the best solution against all forms of Calm Minders in the Game and if Tyranitar and Scizor are gone, this thing can sweep whole teams.
Latias@Leftovers
Timid-252HP, 176Spe, 88Def
-Dragon Pulse
-Calm Mind
-Recover
-Roar
You outrun all types of Suicune and will have little trouble surviving Ice Beams as you will always be the first to use CM and have access to Recover. Many times both of you will set up to +6/+6, which is when Roar comes into play leaving you at skyhigh special stats and making your opponents toss their mouses. The HP and Defense EV investment let you survive Scarf Tar's Crunch and Pursuit as well as Scizor's Pursuit. Scizor's Bullet Punch won't even 2hko, so you can freely Roar them out. True, you will be at pretty low health then, but how high is the chance that the pokemon you Roared in will be able to finish Latias before it just Recovers back it's health?

Hope my suggestions helped. Good Luck !

 

[Wafflez]

Responding to thine PM

Swampert: I see the thinking in your lead set, but there is a better one. Swampert has impressive Hp and Def, allowing him to act as a bulky physical wall. Swampert should be your team's main physical wall, so I would maximize his defenses with a set of 252Hp / 4Atk / 252Def. This will maximize the phyiscal bulkyness and provide your team with a stable physical wall.

Scizor: This is a nitpick, but I can see this help you win a game in every 200. Scizor, IMO, should NEVER have any speed Evs, if it is of the Choice Band variety. The only reason you might want to have the speed Evs is to outspeed Vaporeon, which is handled nicely by Rotom-A, due to its being able to recover from poison. Speed Evs make Scizor lose to an opposing Scizor, because the first superpower will deal ~70%, while the second will OHKO, due to the lowered defense of the opposition. Or, when both Scizor U-Turn, the slower one will maintain the offensive momentum, which is very important for bulky offense. I would recommend a set of 156Hp / 252Atk / 100 SpD (Special Defense). This is the set I ALWAYS run for CB Scizor. Most of the pokemon Scizor counters (or traps) are Specially based, like Latias, Rotom-A, and Celebi. The additional special bulk will allow Scizor to take their attacks better.

Gyarados (really minor nitpick >.>): I like the set, and I think it is a better choice than the Offensive set.

Before I continue, I would like to point something out.

+

= Game Over

Why? Your only check to DD Salamence is Scizor. Scizor has a tendency to use Bullet Punch a lot during battle. Your choiced Scizor can thus get easily trapped by Magnezone (4x Steel Resist), and will be destroyed. With Scizor gone, Salamence can feel free to Dragon Dance, and then rampage with outrage.

Latias: with that little weakness pointed out, I will now provide you with a recommendation which will help defeat DD Salamence. Consider using a Scarf Latias. Scarf Latias makes a good revenge killer, as it will outspeed nearly everything with a +1 in Speed. A Timid nature is always preferred over Modest, because Timid allows you to outspeed +1 Jolly Salamence, which is the main point of Scarf Latias. The most common set is simply 4Hp / 252SpA / 252Spe, which maximizes Special Attack and Speed. a set of Surf / Thunderbolt / Draco Meteor / Trick will allow you counter all of the most frightening DDers around today. Adamant +2(!!) Gyarados is outspeed and meets a quick doom with Thunderbolt. A weakened Tyranitar can be picked off with a Surf. Salamence will be doused with Draco Meteor (do beware of the 10% miss chance, as it will come back to haunt you). Additionally, Latias is armed with Trick, which can put a stop to Crocune, and other pesky Stat-Uppers.
Do not assume that all is better with this new set. Due to the fact that Latias cannot switch attacks, Scizor and Tyranitar can Revenge effectively, especially if Latias has a -2 in Special Attack.

Rotom-A: I have always loved the Resttalk Rotom-A set. You are trying to maximize both Special Defense and Defense, which is the goal. However, there is a more effective Ev spread waiting for you. 252Hp / 120Def / 136SpD (Special Defense), with a Bold nature will maximize both Defense and Special Defense. Rotom-A is meant to be a mixed wall on this team, as Latias is the Special Wall with her monster 130 SpD (Special Defense), while Swampert is the dominant physical wall.

Tyranitar: DD Tyratnitar should not have a Lum Berry, as a Babiri Berry is more useful in preventing Scizor from ruining your sweep.

Good team, and I hope you make my suggested changes and improve it!

P.S: this is the first team I have rated in a month, at the least. :|

Thanks for the Rate :D.
Well since EVERY'1s saying that i must fend of evil green dragons terrorizing thou's team i shall take thee's (thats probably all yours) suggestions on thou's Anti Evil Green Dragon.

Okay il try out that Ev spread =P.

+

=Game over UNLESS i get a critic Or he misses a meteor OR he misclicks and siwtches out mence OOORR his power suddenly goes off resulting in me waiting 5 minutes and then being declared the winner.
Mind you but it seems that Salazone (I think thats what you call it) is pretty much covered =].
Okay alright maybe hes not -.- ..But i usually just try to use U-turn early game to scout for zones but yah it is a threat...

For Latias...Tried it.Hated it =].I need to keep the bait set to lure out scizors for ttar...But i will admit its getting more and more popular so ppl are falling for it less and less........

Rotom=Well that was what i was keeping before..They both help out in differant occasions...Confused on which 1 to use now lol.

And you said about Bari Bari berry...Funny thing is if I was so worried of scizor WHY didnt i ever try it >.> .But then il have to get Fire punch i guess.Well il try it :D.

 

[Wafflez]

Hi,

Got your message, so let's do this!
First of all, this team is already pretty decent. Besides Suicune most threats of the present metagame are covered quite nicely. However Dragon Dancers like Gyarados, Salamence and Dragonite can also become a problem. Offensive and defensive synergy of your team is good as well, so a few moveset changes should be enough to improve your team. Let's go into the details.

Swampert: It is a good lead for your team. Only two things I'd like to mention. First, use max Defense in order to take on opposing Dragons better. You said you wonder why everyone mentions this... well, mainly because it actually is nothing but necessary for Swampert to take physical hits as well as possible. You absolutely need Swampert to survive Mence's +1 LO Outrage or you can be screwed, as Scizor is only a semi-reliable Salamence check. Second, do not treat Swampert like a suicide lead. It is totally viable to lay down Rocks and start phazing until you know the foe's team better. But you shouldn't continue this until Pert is near to dead. You absolutely need it to support Scizor killing threats like DD Mence, D'Nite and Tyranitar later in the game. Your problems against those DDers could have originated in Swanpert being dead too early, so try to be a bit more careful.
As fas as the set is concerned, the only thing you should change are the EVs, 252Def and 4Spe along with 252HP will work. 4Spe EVs in order to outrun other Swampert, so you will be the first to Roar.

Scizor: This set is fine.

Gyarados: Bulky Taunt Gyara is indeed a good choice for your team. The only thing I would change is Return/Frustration to Stone Edge. Even though Stone edge has imperfect accuracy, it hits opposing Gyarados, salamence, Dragonite, Zapdos and many other flying foes for super effective damage, something Return won't achieve against any type. Both options provide great neutral coverage (Return+Waterfall is only resisted by Empoleon in OU, while Stone Edge-Waterfall is also resisted by Breloom) but Stone Edge's ability to hit some things foe SE is really appreciated. Also you don't have any other Rock move in your team.

Tyranitar: Great late game sweeper. In today's metegame you should always use Jolly in my opinion. Outspeeding Starmie, Azelf, latias, Gengar while at least reach a speed tie against Scarf tyranitars is just too importatn. Nothing to change here.

Rotom: Definitely use the Oven or Lawnmower appliance because even if you don't use it it's always handy to bluff their respective signature moves. Rotom-H will make Forretress run away while Rotom-C can bluff Leaf Storm, so Tyranitar and Swampert will think twice before switching in. As fas as the set is concerned I would use an EV spread of 252HP, 56Def, 200SpDef with a calm nature in order to take special hits better.In contrast to what has been said above, I think it is really important totake special hits well as this will help against offensive Suicune ans especially Life Orb Starmie, who will give you major trouble otherwise. With WoW you will still be able to take on physical attackers quite well. The moves are okay.

Latias: Your team is extremely weak to all types of Suicune. Therefore I would suggest changing your Latias set to a set that reliably beats Suicune one on one. Recently I've suggested this Latias in several RMTs, mainly because offensive Suicune is a common threat in today's metagame and many teams just can't handle it. This is the best solution against all forms of Calm Minders in the Game and if Tyranitar and Scizor are gone, this thing can sweep whole teams.
Latias@Leftovers
Timid-252HP, 176Spe, 88Def
-Dragon Pulse
-Calm Mind
-Recover
-Roar
You outrun all types of Suicune and will have little trouble surviving Ice Beams as you will always be the first to use CM and have access to Recover. Many times both of you will set up to +6/+6, which is when Roar comes into play leaving you at skyhigh special stats and making your opponents toss their mouses. The HP and Defense EV investment let you survive Scarf Tar's Crunch and Pursuit as well as Scizor's Pursuit. Scizor's Bullet Punch won't even 2hko, so you can freely Roar them out. True, you will be at pretty low health then, but how high is the chance that the pokemon you Roared in will be able to finish Latias before it just Recovers back it's health?

Hope my suggestions helped. Good Luck !

Thanks for the rate :D.
Well yah changed the Ev spreads *In a redneck voice "to take on a +1DDmence Outrage."Well yah im improoving a bit more in conservation as well..For example:Before i used to roar till i die..Now i do sometimes keep him alive as a death fodder! Impressive isnt it .Well yah i should get to "Saving him for walling later" soon =P.

As for gyrados you see i seem to have not the best luck.And by not the best luck i mean i have the worst luck =L.I mainly took out Stone Edge cuz the misses were just really frustration.

Yep i keep jolly as well =P.

Lol i do infact use a lawnmower to scare away perts.I have that sprite there cuz while searching for sprites he was the 1 who came first lol.

Ppl seem to like offensive calm minder latias quite a lot...I will try it thanks .