Team Sceppie: An OU RMT

Krommetje

I was playing with my team in UU and by accident I began playing OU with it. I was losing terribly but when I send out Sceptile and saw that it killed 4 of the pokes I suddenly realized that it was a pokemon that can play in OU. So I tried it out in a team I already had and I noticed that many people weren't prepared for a high speed grass pokemon with good attacks. So there I started on making a new OU team that was build around sceptile.

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Now I needed a pokemon that has good synergy with sceptile. A fire type pokemon that can take the ice and fire type attacks that hurts sceptile. Who other than Heatran can have that role

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Now I needed a pokemon that can break stall teams who can otherwise mess up this team. I immediately taught of MixMence because all stall teams carry SkarmBliss. So there I had the third pokemon on my team
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Since I always play attacking and I carry on almost all of my teams a good ghost pokemon that can take exploding pokes and normal and fighting attacks I tried Rotom-H. But he didn't worked out quite well and I replaced it with Gengar

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Now that I had 2 special sweepers and one physical sweeper who needed to set up before it could attack I tought of a physical who could revenge kill and sweep with ease. Scizor was the one I choose. Because with its 592 attack and Bullet punch matched with technician and stab it can almost always kill at least one poke and in most cases even more

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Now that my team was almost finished I only needed a good lead. And I always use the same lead so I took Metagross.

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So now I had my six team members I started thinking of movesets.

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Metagross (M) @ Occa Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 244 HP/232 Atk/32 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Stealth Rock

EQ and Meteor Mash form the core of the moveset. Bullet Punch for finishing. Stealth Rock does he needs to set up. Occa Berry so it can at least last one fire attack to kill for example an Infernape

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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Earth Power
- Flamethrower


Heatran has great Synergy with sceptile because they resist each other's weaknesses. Overheat to kill the very common Metagross and Jirachi leads. HP Grass for swampert and other water types. Earth Power to kill Heatran and Flamethrower for sweeping if I don't want to lose power every turn

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Sceptile (M) @ Liechi Berry
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Leaf Blade
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake

Sceptile.. A really underestimated pokemon. Strategy is simple. Just use swords dance and start sweeping. If you know for sure that the oppenent doesn't have pokemon with priority moves use substitute to get the Liechi Berry boost. Leaf Blade and Earthquake have good type coverage. The only problems are Zapdos and in rare cases staraptor
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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Just the common Scizor set. It has great synergy with almost my whole team except Metagross and Sceptile. U-Turn is for scouting. Superpower to have a powerful fighting attack and Persuit to kill psychic and ghost types. Bullet Punch is the core of its moveset and can kill with ease

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Salamence (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 80 Atk/176 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Brick Break
- Roost

MixMence is an outstanding Stallbreaker who can otherwise outstall my team. Brick Break for Blissey and Fire Blast for Skarmory. Draco Meteor is the strongest attack it has. Roost to recover the LO damage so it can keep sweeping.

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Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Explosion
- Focus Blast

Gengar is an amazing special sweeper. With Choice Scarf boosting its good speed to outstanding speed. Shadow Ball is the core of it's moveset. Thunderbolt for Gyarados and Skarmory. Explosion kills alot of pokemon. Focus Punch for type coverage

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Well this is my team I would like some rates and good hints. I will try every suggestion that is made if they aren't ridiculous except for exchanging Sceptile since he is the core of the team

Right now I have a 32-9 Win-Loss Ratio. One of the lost battles is a connection error and most of the lost games where when I started using this team and wasn't used to it yet.
 
Definetly use Focus Blast over Sucker Punch on Gengar, Sucker Punch is terrible on him because

1)Shadow Ball hit's everything SP does and has STAB and works off his SpA
2)You've already got a Scarf, so priority isn't needed
3)You really waste coverage

Also if you keep Explosion I'd switch to a Naive nature
 
I'd replace Sucker Punch with Focus Blast or Trick. I'm not seeing the point of priority on it. It's unstabbed, comes off of a weak physical attack, and the only thing it would help against would be Scizor, who is runs the only priority that damages you and is resistant to it anyways. Trick helps cripple walls and Focus Blast 1hko's Tyranitar and does a good amount to Steels and Blissey. It's up to you what you choose.
 
You have a major infernape problem on this team. My suggestion is a bulky water type like suicune or vaporeon. (More vaporeon sense it can go in as a wish support and a gyarados counter, which your team doesnt have.)
 
I changed it. Some other hints than Sucker Punch now since that was a mistake in making my team and I didn't replaced it

Gyrados I can counter with Heatran's explosion or Salemence Draco Meteor but yes an Infernape can kill my whole team and the only counter I have is Heatran who will be killed easily. Who do I need to change do you think
 
Instead of a bulky water you could consider Latias over Gengar. Latias is the #1 Infernape counter switching in on anything bar a physical nape's u-turn. In my experience, Latias counters basically every thing a bulky water does but has the added bonus of being much faster, resistant to electric and immune to spikes, t-spikes and ground moves. You already have a scarfed pokemon on your team in Heatran and having two isn't really helping you too much. Having two Dragons on the same team may seme like a bad idea but you have three steels which can take all the ice and dragon attacks thrown at them. Just a suggestion. Oh and Sceptile doesn't resist fighting, it is neutral against him.
 
Ok. I taught it resisted it. But I will try Latias out tommorow morning. Im just having a huge winning streak.

Wich moveset for Latias. I was thinking of the scarf set or the calm mind set. Choice scarf is good with trick it can give it to a blissey or skarmory
I dont really like set up pokes. I always use just one
 
Hey, I really like this team. I can see issues with Sceptile not being able to sweep some common Pokemon, but since it's your main Poke, I'll ignore it and make some other suggestions. By now, Metagross leads are all too common and other Gross leads fail to stop the other, they both just get SR up. But what if you could KO their lead, SR with Gross, AND live to die another day?

What I suggest is simply re-arranging your team and making minor adjustments that will help you out in the long-haul. Okay, we'll start with Gross..

Metagross @ Occa Berry
Adamant
246 HP, 232 Att, 32 Spe
~Meteor Mash
~Earthquake
~Stealth Rock
~Thunderpunch/Explosion

The EVs allow it to outspeed Skarmory and Vaporeon without really changing much. The reason Bullet Punch is eliminated is because I suggest that you use Heatran as a lead and bring this in afterwards.

Heatran @ Choice Specs
Modest
~Overheat
~HP Grass
~Earthpower
~Dragon Pulse/Flamethrower/Explosion

This is what you should lead with IMO. You know that Occa Gross always carries? Well, you will outspeed and KO regardless. If they switch, any resisted Pokemon is still taking a beating, losing at min. half their health. HP Grass of course knocks out Swampert and puts a dent into other bulky waters. The other moves are either self-explanatory or entirely equally useful, so it's up to you to choose.

Why run it this way?
Basically, both Heatran and Metagross will survive past the first showdown (ie: beating lead), so now you're at an advantage with 6 Pokemon vs their 5. Then, Metagross can come in whenever you choose, and get SR up. Thunderpunch will KO gyara, who fails to KO you after 1 DD with any attack, but it also does 38% min to Skarmory and more to Vaporeon. Explosion of course, will kill almost anything, and do about 65-75% to Skarm is you need to finish it off.

Other:
Gengar's Explosion doesn't really seem worthwile without any sort of boost and a negative nature. I'd suggest HP ice in its stead, elsewise DD mence can destroy your entire team. Also, it compliments the coverage with the other moves. Also, unless you think Gyarados is going to be able to get 2 Dragon Dances on you, there's no point to run Timid over Modest. That extra power could be useful, especially when Gross can take care of Gyara with 1 boost.

Hope I helped!
 
I've tested Scarf latias and CM latias on my team but it doesn't work well..

Now im gonna test the changes between Heatran and Metagross. Thanks Dragonites for those hints
 
You must realize though that Sceptile outspeeds Infernape and kills with EQ. Heatran can switch into anything besides CC and outspeed with scarf and KO it. Gengar outspeeds and kills it after some entry hazard / life orb damage. Even Scizor's Bullet Punch hurts Ape in a pinch, especially after a CC defense drop. But yeah, I guess scarf Ape could be a problem? He is easily played around.

Props for using Sceptile. I have been using him as a Sub Seeder on a UU hail team. He is a cool poke. GL with the team
 
Infernape will lose 12% of its health when switching in. If it is not scarfed I outspeed with the aforementioned pokes and OHKO it
If it scarfed and it uses HP ice to kill my salemence it needs to switch out since HP ice doesn't work on Heatran, Metagross and also doesn't OHKO's Gengar. If he than switches back in he loses 12% again and I can kill it with scizor's bullet punch. That will cost me 2 pokes or in some cases 1.

Also I tried ScarfLatias over Gengar and I think that Gengar is slightly better. Latias is just as fast as Gengar and has higher defence. But Gengar has a movepool that fits better into my team.

So I don't really think ScarfApe is a big problem

Im playing a lot with the team now and I see that my scizor hardly ever kills anything that another pokemon can't cover. It's so widely used that everybody has an appropriate counter for it. Anybody knows a good pokemon to replace it??
 
Personally, I'd rather use a 3-attacks Swords Dance Sceptile @ Expert Belt.

Use Dragon Claw or Rock Slide in place of Substitute. If they switch in their Salamence on your Swords Dance turn (and rocks are up), you can OHKO Mence with a +1 Dragon Claw. You even have a small chance of OHKOing it without rocks, if I recall right.
 
I highly support using Dragon Claw and Expert Belt instead of this set, or else Latias, Dragonite and Salamence can cause your Sceptile way too much trouble.

I think without it your sweeping coverage could be just a bit too small
 
I don't think you should replace your Gengar, but I think it would prefer a Life Orb and HP Fire/Ice over Explosion. And seeing as you're using Metagross as a pseudo Nape counter, why not replace it with an actual Nape counter, like Tentacruel.

Tentacruel@Leftovers
Calm/Liquid Ooze
252 Hp/120 Def/136 Sp. Def
-Surf
-Rapid Spin
-Toxic Spikes
-HP Electric/Sludge Bomb

If you don't feel you need a spinner, you can replace Rapid Spin with Knock Off or another attack. The main thing is a reliable Infernape counter that can set up entry hazards, which could benefit a Sceptile sweep greatly.

Consider replacing Liechi Berry with Life Orb and Substitute with X-Scissor to hit Psychic-types or Rock Slide to hit Flying-types. Dragon Claw also works for neutral coverage on almost everything.
 
Well since everybody says it I will try out sceptile without Substitute

This set
Sceptile(M) @ Life Orb
Swords Dance
Dragon Claw
EQ
Leaf Blade
 
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