Team Suicide Silence

[Sephiroth32194]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, (although not too far), the 2nd generation of Pokemon was raging. Everyone was playing either Pokemon Gold or Pokemon Silver. There were certain Pokemon that were popular, and certain Pokemon that were ignored. Scizor was one of the Pokemon that was popular. In the 3rd generation, Scizor became an ignored Pokemon, and it carried over to Diamond and Pearl. Recently, Pokemon Platinum was released, and it was discovered that Scizor had a new toy to play with: Bullet Punch. Scizor has become immensely popular now, and so teams must find a way to counter it. This team has done a wonderful job of doing just that, and it has done the job of sweeping as well. There are a few minor changes I would like to make though, so I'll ask you all. Please rate my team!

Team Suicide Silence

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Nickname: Destruction of a Statue
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant (+Attack -Special Attack)
EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Gyarados has been the #1 used Pokemon on my team. Once it gets 1-2 Dragon Dances up, it becomes almost impossible to kill without a Scarfing Pokemon or a priority move. Waterfall comes with a handy flinch rate that can serve useful when I'm faster than almost everything. Stone Edge > Ice Fang here because I would rather have power over accuracy.

Makuhita @ Leftovers
Nickname: Hands of a Killer
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Adamant (+Attack -Special Attack)
EV Spread: 252 Attack/180 Defense/76 HP
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Payback

Hariyama has been one of my main Scizor counters. Once I get a Substitute, I can choose a move according to the matchup. If a Scizor or any other Steel/Rock/Normal type is out, I can Focus Punch. Ice Punch hits Salamence, Flygon, and Togekiss, and Payback hits those pesky Psychics and Ghosts who try to revenge kill me. Thick Fat helps me switch into certain things, like a Heatran without Choice Specs. The 180 Defense EVs help me survive physical hits, which helps with my Scizor counter-ability.

Azelf @ Expert Belt
Nickname: Unanswered
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid (+Speed -Attack)
EV Spread: 252 Special Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Energy Ball
- Flamethrower

Azelf serves as my revenge killer and special sweeper. With a Timid nature, it outspeeds a lot of things, including Timid Gengar. With Nasty Plot, I boost my Special Attack to a monstrous number, and I begin to sweep. This set covers the most amount of things, as Energy Ball hits Hippowdon and Tyranitar, Flamethrower hits Magnezone and Lucario, and Psychic hits Gengar, Machamp, and anything that doesn't resist it.

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Nickname: The Fallen
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Calm (+Special Defense -Attack)
EV Spread: 252 HP/252 Special Defense/6 Defense
- Thunder Wave
- Roost
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere

Ah yes, the old Haxkiss is back. With Thunder Wave and Air Slash, the opponent only has a 30% chance of attacking. I take advantage of this by occasionally Roosting (if I need to), and the potential Aura Sphere for Magnezone, Rhyperior, and Jolteon. The EVs help me be a special sponge for my team, and it also allows me to take SOME physical hits.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
Nickname: Green Monster
Ability: Poison Heal
Nature: Jolly (+Speed -Special Attack)
EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
- Spore
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch

Breloom has helped me win multiple games by stalling, as well as sweeping. Spore incapacitates the opponent, and either forces a switch, or causes them to stay in and hope they wake up. During that turn, I normally use Substitute to help set up. After that, I tend to Leech Seed to recover more health, and Focus Punch hits a lot of things. If I happen to run into a Ghost type, I'll normally Spore and Leech Seed, then switch out to a preferable counter.

Slowking @ Leftovers
Nickname: A Dead Current
Ability: Own Tempo
Nature: Calm (+Special Defense -Attack)
EV Spread: 252 Special Defense/212 HP/44 Special Attack
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Slack Off
- Light Screen

Sadly, Slowking is my questionable member on the team. It hasn't done much for the team aside from set up a Light Screen that doesn't last too long, and one or two kills on unsuspecting Gyarados with Hidden Power. Slack Off helps me recover health, and the EVs turn me into a special wall.

Anyway guys, please focus your attention to Slowking, as he is the member that needs the most help. I am willing to replace him for anyone that you think I need. Thanks for reading! :D

~Sephiroth32194~

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Credit to Pokemon pictures - www.arkeis.com
Credit to nicknames - Suicide Silence & their album The Cleansing​

 

[Pory]

I think Vaporeon can go in place of Slowbro although you still have an electric weakness here. Azelf isn't bulky and your only resistor to electric is Breloom, and he can't take too many hits. If you're focusing on keeping Breloom, you might want to replace Togekiss because if he paralyzes a pokemon, you may need to spore that same one later on. You can go for a Zapdos since he carries Heat Wave for Scizors and can survive bullet punch. He also resist electric attacks coming at Gyarados. Most electric attacks go towards him so you might want to consider some electric resistance or not keep him as a lead since Trick Gengars are common and they carry t-bolt.

 

[WaffleChan]

Azelf learns Grass Knot which hits everything on this side of Lanturn harder than Energy Ball, as well as hitting Starmie for the same damage.

I'd go with Bold on Togekiss, as well as investion some EV's into defense, it makes a huge difference when the likes of Gyrados try to Stone Edge you.

Besides that nice team, I don't have much time so I only could skim over it, I love Slowking glad to see its getting some use, IMO it's one of the best Toxic inducer's in the game. Though adding Swampert over Slowking would give you an electric resist and a reliable phazer if you choose to use him that way.

One last thing why is your Haryama name Makuhita? xD

 

[AbsolDeath]

Just a quick suggestion, not much.

As you have x4 Electric weak (Gyara) and x2 Electric weak (Togekiss) you may as well throw Swampert on your team as both Slowking and Swampert are water types. Plus, you get an electric immunity, can set up entry's PLUS you can roar (if you so choose to).

Told you it'd be a quick one, hope I helped.

 

[Sephiroth32194]

I think Vaporeon can go in place of Slowbro although you still have an electric weakness here. Azelf isn't bulky and your only resistor to electric is Breloom, and he can't take too many hits. If you're focusing on keeping Breloom, you might want to replace Togekiss because if he paralyzes a pokemon, you may need to spore that same one later on. You can go for a Zapdos since he carries Heat Wave for Scizors and can survive bullet punch. He also resist electric attacks coming at Gyarados. Most electric attacks go towards him so you might want to consider some electric resistance or not keep him as a lead since Trick Gengars are common and they carry t-bolt.

Thanks Snorlax, I think I'll replace Slowking with a Swampert since the other guy's comment made more sense (electric resist :P) and I will replace Togekiss with Zapdos. ^^

 

[Sephiroth32194]

Azelf learns Grass Knot which hits everything on this side of Lanturn harder than Energy Ball, as well as hitting Starmie for the same damage.

Thanks, I'll go with Grass Knot. :D

I'd go with Bold on Togekiss, as well as investion some EV's into defense, it makes a huge difference when the likes of Gyrados try to Stone Edge you.

Still not sure how many EVs to put in Defense, but I'll change the nature.

Besides that nice team, I don't have much time so I only could skim over it, I love Slowking glad to see its getting some use, IMO it's one of the best Toxic inducer's in the game. Though adding Swampert over Slowking would give you an electric resist and a reliable phazer if you choose to use him that way.

Thanks for pointing that out to me, I never really thought about Swampert before. I'll replace Slowking with that. :D

One last thing why is your Haryama name Makuhita? xD

Lol, I think I was thinking about Makuhita when I copied the picture to the forums. My bad. XD

 

[IceTime]

a few comments, if Hariyama is there purely to counter Scizor, then I don't think he is needed. I'd recommend a Zapdos, because as of now Yanmega screws things up pretty badly, bar Togekiss which it will switch out on anyway, since it can't KO with Air Slash and will get TWaved. Consider Explosion over Energy Ball if Tyranitar and Hippowdon aren't that much of a problem, the surprise kill is often worth it, and can change the flow of the match. Otherwise, I feel in this situation Grass Knot is better than Energy Ball anyways. Your team is mainly special based, and will have a tough time getting past Bliss, especially if she is throwing around Thunder Wave, considering Breloom won't like it if its interfering with Poison Heal and Gyarados won't like it if it's DDing for nothing, if you keep your current team, there's 2 ways to play around this

1. get breloom out early and use him to stop Blissey
2. get one poke paralysed and keep using that poke to switch in for paralysis (bad)

because of this, i'd recommend a Swampert, who can provide SR and a reliable switch in to Blissey. Standard Physical set works, although if you want to go MixPert i won't stop you. Celebi and the like won't bother you too much considering you have Togekiss.

hope i helped.

 

[Tanner]

I don't rate many teams so take this with a grain of salt, but you have a major Normal weak. Lead Azelf is guaranteed a kill with Explosion even with Intimidate on all but Hariyama (76%-90%). I'd consider a Forretress or Metagross in the last spot. Both can take hits that knock the rest of your team flat with their excellent resistances. Forretress provides Stealth Rock and Light Screen (assuming you want to keep it). Metagross provides enormous damage and a solid priority move.

 

[Solidus]

Ok this team doesn't look that bad but a couple of fix ups here and there and it'll be good to go. You're really weak to SubRoost Zapdos any way you see it. It can easily stall you out and the Pokemon in your team that can reliably wall it is Togekiss who can't possibly hope to cause any kind of damage to Zapdos with Air Slash and Aura Sphere. Another possibility is bringing Slowking in and setting up Light Screen, but no one in their right mind would bring Slowking out when Zapdos is in play, so that's out of the question. I'll get back to your Zapdos counter a little bit later, but for now I'll address your problems starting from the top.

First off I would change a couple of things on Gyarados. The combination of Waterfall / Earthquake / Stone Edge is unreliable because you won't be able to hurt Grass types effectively. I say run Ice Fang over Stone Edge to fix this problem. You'll lose coverage against Flying types this way, but it's worth it against Celebi and the like, trust me. Unless you're using a BulkyGyara or a Sleep Talk variation move set then you don't have a lot of use for Leftovers. Drop them and go for a Life Orb instead so you can have that extra bit of power.

When it comes to using Hariyama, I always consider Machamp as the superior Fighting type. I'll admit that Hariyama somewhat outclasses Machamp in the bulkiness sense of logic, considering Thick Fat which allows it to take special hits better and his excessive amount of HP that makes it hard to take down. It's often there to play the role as a defensive pokemon. I'm wanting you to go for a more offensive role, thusly taking out Hariyama and using Machamp in that spot. A CB Machamp will do a great job:

Machamp @ Choice Band
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 128 Spe / 128 HP
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
~ Close Combat
~ Thunder Punch
~ Ice Punch
~ Payback

This set effectively plays the role of a huge physical threat. Basically the EV's are set to ensure that you outrun minimum Speed Skarmory who can hit Machamp hard with a STAB Brave Bird, but with you attacking first it shouldn't be a problem since Skarmory will go down quicker. Close Combat is preferred over Dynamic Punch since it hits harder and the drop in defense isn't a big deal because you'd normally proceed to switch out after you use it. Thunder Punch is there mainly for Gyarados. Ice Punch enables you to hurt Gliscor who you otherwise wouldn't be able to hurt, as well as being your primary attack against Dragons. Payback is obviously there to make Ghosts/Psychics suffer.

Ok for Azelf there are a few things I want to change. Drop Expert Belt for a Life Orb instead. Run Explosion over Nasty Plot so you can go out with a bang especially against an annoying Blissey who could pose a problem for you. Run Grass Knot > Energy Ball so that you can hit Tyranitar harder. I'll explain further, but let me get into the actual moveset:

Azelf @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 36 Atk / 252 SpA / 220 Spe
Naive Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
~ Explosion
~ Psychic
~ Flamethrower
~ Grass Knot / U-turn

The main thing I changed with your original set was abandoning Nasty Plot for Explosion because your team is too focused on Special Attacking, and at least you have a physical attack to work with when you have no further use for Azelf and want to go out with a final blow. The last slot is up to you and as I said earlier, Grass Knot is for Tyranitar's who are a threat to Azelf or U-Turn for scouting and wearing down switch ins, your choice. Going along, Togekiss looks fine for the most part but like I said you aren't going to do anything to SubRoost Zapdos. That being said, I want to get to your Zapdos counter. Take Breloom out and use Electivire instead:

Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Naive Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Punch
~ Cross Chop
~ Earthquake

Along with being your protection from Zapdos, Electivire has great synergy with Gyarados, mainly because Electivire will be getting Motor Drive boosts often alongside Gyarados. Thunderbolt is the preferred STAB move since it hits harder against Skarmory, but Thunder Punch is an option because it tends to hit Water Pokemon harder, especially against CM Suicune who can boost Special Defense at will. Depends on your preferences. Ice Punch hits Salamence/Gliscor/Flygon as well as Zapdos, Cross Chop takes down Blissey and Snorlax, and Earthquake to hit every other Pokemon that your other moves couldn't hurt. Lastly, Slowking doesn't look like a big deal as far as being problematic is concerned but you can possibly replace it with a SR'er or Wisher like Swampert or Vaporeon. Than again, it doesn't seem too necessary but just throwing out suggestions.

I hope this advice helps you, and good luck with your team! =)

 

[blasphemy1]

With all of the electric weaknesses on the team(3) I think you should replace Slowking with an Electivire. Not only does Electivire absorb electric attacks, but it gains a speed boost from them, and potentially can stop a SpecsJolt from running through this team, which is quite easily accomplished, seeing as your special "tank" is electric weak. Definitely replace Slowking with Electivire.

EDIT: I wanted to assure you that Breloom has absolutely no chance of beating Jolteon, as Timid SpecsJolt's Thunderbolt easily 2HKOs, while all you can do is Spore, and they will probably just switch out.