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The Clown and The Serpent (Peaked #2)

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Ahh, Conkeldurr and Gyarados, two extremely dangerous threats that can easily sweep teams. They balance each other out on the offensive spectrum almost perfectly in the rain; Gyarados being able to decimate almost any wall with Substitute + Dragon Dance, including Rotom-W. Conkeldurr can defeat Skarmory as well as annoying steel types such as Ferrothorn. However, that's for later on.

First off, this is easily the best team I have ever made, devastating several great teams in it's great journey to the top. It brought me into a new realm of ladder rankings (1600 rating), and peaked #2 on the BW OU ladder.

PS: Gyarados is the main sweeper and devastator for this team, so that's the reason why his image is basically twice the size of Conkeldurr (or it's because it was a cool picture...).

Things in Red are changed:

The Team
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Team Building Process
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Woah, bet you didn't see this coming (If you did, then good for you). Now, sub DD Gyarados works best in rain; sadly, I could not use Kyogre. Because of this, I'm forced to stick with a small green toad...this thing is supposed to win me games?

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Alright, now that I have the rain and my two main pokemon, it was time to decide whether I wanted a full out offensive team or a balanced one. I decided balanced would be the best way to go, especially since I had made Heavy Offense in every one of my recent teams. Now, for balanced, you need walls. I noticed that I had no safe switch-in for Rotom-W, Thundurus, and electric type pokemon in general. Gastrodon has always been one of my favorite pokemon in 5th gen (I used him ever since I started playing 5th gen...you know...before literally every single stall team started using it? x.x)

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Now, I needed entry hazards. I also needed some sort of physical wall, and something to take grass moves. All signs point to Ferrothorn, so that's what I went with (it can learn both Spikes and Stealth Rock so I was free to choose for my last).

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Now, the last poke I decided on was one of my favorite sweepers, who happened to form a trio with my other two sweepers. This mysterious sweeper is...Sub CM Jirachi (ik, ik, I'm so original right?)

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And so, the team was complete.

In Depth
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Rachi (Jirachi) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Wish
- Thunder
- U-Turn
- Iron Head


Specially defensive Jirachi covers several of my weaknesses very well, including Nasty Plot Celebi, CM Virizion, and Specs Tornadus. Thunder is chosen over Body Slam since it can devastate the likes of Skarmory and deal good damage to Rotom-W, making it easier for my Gyarados too sweep. U-Turn provides me with momentum, and can act as a psuedo-phazing move in combinations with entry hazards.

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ConkelDERP (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Mach Punch
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Payback

Conkeldurr is a truly underrated pokemon in 5th gen. It can wipe out entire teams, and works as a great offensive partner for Gyarados. Pokemon like Rotom-W and other special attackers are walled by Ferrothorn + Gastrodon, making it that much more useful. Conkeldurr is also my Terrakion and Excadrill check, and can serve as a great status absorber for my team. Once Gliscor is out of the way, Conkeldurr becomes much more deadly, especially since it can beat Skarmory 1 on 1 if it has a Bulk UP (outside of Whirlwind). It also beats Forretress, Jellicent, and many other physical walls.

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Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Power Whip
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Ferrothorn provides my team with much needed entry hazard support, and can wall some physical threats while also being able to easily take on many special attackers on in the rain. Thunder Wave lets Ferrothorn status incoming pokemon such as Scizor, Thundurus, and Terrakion, while Power Whip provides it with a powerful STAB move that can devastate the likes of Gastrodon and Quagsire. I chose a 252 HP / 252 Def spread since Ferrothorn is my main physical wall, and since Ferrothorn can still beat many special attackers in the rain (Gastrodon is an amazing wall on the special side as well). Ferrothorn also serves as my lone steel type, being able to switch on powerful Draco Meteors from the likes of Latios and Hydreigon.

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Politoed (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 12 HP / 252 SAtk / 244 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Psychic
- Perish Song
- Ice Beam

Scarf Politoed is my favorite version of the green toad. Choice Specs Politoed hits very hard, but I prefer scarf since it gives me a good revenge killer that can still hit hard in the rain. Hydro Pump is my main STAB move, and hits extremely hard in the rain, allowing me to weaken my opposition in combination with entry hazards. Ice Beam with a Timid Nature is used in order to outspeed and KO +1 Adamant DD Dragonite (assuming Multicale is not activated); it also lets me dent Latios and decimate Salamence. I never really found a point in using Focus Blast, as Ferrothorn takes it like a champ regardless, so I used Hypnosis instead. Most of the time, I just use Hydro Pump so it is not that big of an issue; Psychic lets Politoed score a surprise KO on Toxicroak, who think they can set up quite easily on it. 12 HP EVs let me live +2 LO Sucker Punch from Toxicroak 100% at full health, while still allowing me to retain enough speed to outspeed standard Dragonite. I most often use it on the switch so that I do not basically lose the game if I miss. Perish Song rounds out the set by providing me with a way to stop opposing pokemon such as CM Reuniclus and CM Latias that I have allowed to set up for some reason, and can often frustrate the opponent. Oh, and it also provides me with rain support to help most of my team out.

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Triton (Gyarados) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Waterfall
- Bounce
- Dragon Dance

The beast in it's true form. I first saw this set when Scofield played Panamaxis for the World Cup, and it is undoubtedly a beast. This is a variation of Phillip7086's set though, as I run Moxie over Intimidate. While it becomes somewhat harder to set up Substitutes, I personally find that it is worth it. Moxie puts a ton of pressure on my opponent, knowing that if they let something die, they will be facing a +1 Gyarados in the rain (usually with a Substitute up as well). It also works extremely well against Rotom-W, as I can sub up, take Volt Switch, and often times KO the switch-in next turn. This allows me to get an attack boost, and continue the cycle for however long I desire (or until I am too low on HP to use Substitute). Gyarados in the rain only needs about 2 attack boosts to OHKO standard Rotom-W with Waterfall, so it is not that difficult to decimate it, and the opponent's team. Skarmory takes massive damage from it's Waterfall was well, and has to be wary of the flinch chance; Gliscor, Jellicent, and non-Volt Switch Forretress among others are easy setup fodder for this behemoth. That's the best part about it: it is extremely easy to setup. Once this Gyarados gets set up, it becomes extremely difficult to stop, and often forces my opponent to sacrifice many pokemon in order to have a chance of stopping it, gaining me a huge amount of momentum.

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UMAD BRO? (Gastrodon-East) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic

Gastrodon is the bane of rain teams, being able to defeat most of rain's sweepers 1 on 1 quite easily. He serves as my special wall, being able to wall the likes of Heatran, Starmie, and Rotom-W. Ferrothorn takes the grass type attacks that cause him problems, making him even more of a threat; it'll take more than one Grass Knot / Hidden Power Grass to slay this beast regardless. Earthquake is chosen over Earth Power because it lets Gastrodon defeat and deal more damage to several noticeable threats compared to Earth Power, such as Tentacruel, CM Jirachi, and Volcarona (hits harder then Scald after Volcarona gets Quiver Dances up). Storm Drain allows Gastrodon's special attack to exceed 300, allowing it to dent the opposition with a rain boosted Scald. Toxic and Recover round out the set by letting Gastrodon heal off damage and hinder opposing walls / tanks. Max defense and HP allow Gastrodon to tank physical hits as well, which is very useful seeing as Jirachi can already take on special attackers such as Latios and Celebi quite easly.

Thanks in advance for all the rates!

Threat List:
Terrakion-Arguably the largest threat to my team. It basically forces me to sacrifice a pokemon if it comes in on Ferrothorn or Gyarados; CB Versions are the most deadly as they can decimate several members of my team with ease. Politoed can outspeed it, Ferrothorn can status it if my opponent overpredicts and Power Whip it, Gyarados can Dragon Dance and OHKO with Waterfall, Gastrodon and Jirachi can hit it hard, and Conkeldurr can defeat it 1 on 1. I just have to play around it for now.

Quagsire-Defeats 2/3 of my sweepers, but I can usually take it out with Gyarados (assuming I have rain up) due to Substitute (Quagsire 2HKO's my sub at best with Scald / Ice Beam) + Bounce Paralyze + Waterfall Flinch.

That's basically all of the threats that I have fought that cause me major problems.[/hide]

Importable
Rachi (Jirachi) @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Thunder
- Wish
- Iron Head
- U-turn

ConkelDERP (Conkeldurr) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 136 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Mach Punch
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Payback

Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Power Whip
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Spikes

Politoed (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 12 HP / 252 SAtk / 244 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hydro Pump
- Psychic
- Perish Song
- Ice Beam

Triton (Gyarados) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Waterfall
- Bounce
- Dragon Dance

UMAD BRO? (Gastrodon-East) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Toxic
 
Sup tmo,

Your teams are always top class, and this one is no exception. However, the biggest issue I find with this team is its susceptibility to hazards of all sorts. Gyarados will take 25% from rocks, limiting its ability to set up a sub and get a DD off, while Politoed will get worn down from having to constantly switch into Terrakion and the such to check them. There isn't really much to do that wouldn't harm the synergy of the offensive/defensive cores, so an extremely basic fix to this would be to use Wish on Jirachi over Substitute. This will allow you to recover 202 HP points to any mons in the team, which is well over half for most of the pokemon on your team, effectively negating 2 rounds of SR switchins for gyarados. I understand that Jirachi is capable to sweeping entire teams for you, but the benefit of Wish will make it a very good team player, since it kind of sticks out to me a little as not fitting into the team, especially when there are no Tspikes around to support.

Also a relatively minor change you can make is using Gyro Ball + Relaxed on Ferrothorn, but it is really a matter a preference, whether you want to hit Dragon types harder, or cripple Latios / Hydreigon. Really nice team from a great rater, congrats on the peak man and good luck!
 
Sup tmo,

Your teams are always top class, and this one is no exception. However, the biggest issue I find with this team is its susceptibility to hazards of all sorts. Gyarados will take 25% from rocks, limiting its ability to set up a sub and get a DD off, while Politoed will get worn down from having to constantly switch into Terrakion and the such to check them. There isn't really much to do that wouldn't harm the synergy of the offensive/defensive cores, so an extremely basic fix to this would be to use Wish on Jirachi over Substitute. This will allow you to recover 202 HP points to any mons in the team, which is well over half for most of the pokemon on your team, effectively negating 2 rounds of SR switchins for gyarados. I understand that Jirachi is capable to sweeping entire teams for you, but the benefit of Wish will make it a very good team player, since it kind of sticks out to me a little as not fitting into the team, especially when there are no Tspikes around to support.

Also a relatively minor change you can make is using Gyro Ball + Relaxed on Ferrothorn, but it is really a matter a preference, whether you want to hit Dragon types harder, or cripple Latios / Hydreigon. Really nice team from a great rater, congrats on the peak man and good luck!

Yeah, I noticed that when I was laddering. I've never tried Wish + CM Rachi, but everyone says it's good so I'll try it out. Thanks for the rate :P
 
NIce Team! I like that combination but isn't CM Reuniclus a little problem? Just thinking lol Good Luck :)
 
NIce Team! I like that combination but isn't CM Reuniclus a little problem? Just thinking lol Good Luck :)
Not really, actually. If worse comes to worse, I can Perish Song it with Politoed and force it out so it can't sweep me if it gets up too many Calm Minds. Although, I rarely ever need to do that, as Jirachi can beat it 1 on 1 relatively easily with Psyshock, especially if one factors in Focus Blast's shaky accuracy. Gyarados 2HKO's it with Waterfall in rain as well.
 
Pro.

Bro, 10 star team with boss coverage. As long as you play well everytime, you good. Also, to peak #2, i can guarantee this team is going to be used by others.
 
First of all, Solid team and I like how you made defense turn into offense which is very hard, so I will call this team Bulky Offeense. Specs
Rotom-W is a major threat because it can 2HKO your Politoed with Thunderbolt in the rain. Ferrothorn is also 2HKO by a Specs Modest Hydro pump by Rotom. Conkeldurr is OHKO by Hydro pump + Rocks. Gyarados is OHKO by Thunderbolt hands down then Landoorus can proceed to 2HKO Gastrodon with Earthquake. Also it doesn't matter if you perish song it because Twave doesn't ruin rotom in rain because with specs he is already slow. Two counter Rotom Can you put in Leech seed instead of Spikes on Ferro because it stops you from getting your team wiped and you could Powerwhip along the lines for a bit more assurance for the kill. CM Jirachi can also be very helpful.

SOLID team, it reminds me of my last stall I used lately.
 
Hey ShakeItUp, nice team you got there.

There's nothing i could suggest to change in your team, since this is one of the best rain teams i've seen, especially paired with a very good offensive core.

But still, i would like to nitpick on your ferrothorn set. You don't have leech seed on this set, which also means after switching into a few Draco Meteors / Outrages you'll eventually lose a lot of HP. Leech Seed over Thunder Wave is an option since keeping your ferrothorn at good health is a must for this team.

And yeah, that's about it. Good Luck bro.
 
First of all, Solid team and I like how you made defense turn into offense which is very hard, so I will call this team Bulky Offeense. Specs
Rotom-W is a major threat because it can 2HKO your Politoed with Thunderbolt in the rain. Ferrothorn is also 2HKO by a Specs Modest Hydro pump by Rotom. Conkeldurr is OHKO by Hydro pump + Rocks. Gyarados is OHKO by Thunderbolt hands down then Landoorus can proceed to 2HKO Gastrodon with Earthquake. Also it doesn't matter if you perish song it because Twave doesn't ruin rotom in rain because with specs he is already slow. Two counter Rotom Can you put in Leech seed instead of Spikes on Ferro because it stops you from getting your team wiped and you could Powerwhip along the lines for a bit more assurance for the kill. CM Jirachi can also be very helpful.

SOLID team, it reminds me of my last stall I used lately.
First off, no one runs Thunderbolt on Rotom-W; they all run Volt Switch. Gyarados can DD up, substitute, take Volt Switch, and proceed to decimate the opponent's team. I need Spikes for more hazards as they greatly help my team out; Power Whip can take out Rotom-W as well. Gastrodon absolutely walls it (unless it runs HP Grass, and I can take one regardless if someone does run one), so I don't see the problem. I don't see why I would leave Gastrodon in on a Landorus, let alone switch it in so I could be 2HKO'd by Earthquake ._.
 
Looking at your team, what do you do when facing Bulkup/Sub toxi. It looks like your only real checks are perish song and jirachi, who doesnt really like having to take drain punches just to break a sub. That set also beats gyarados 1v1. Other then that this team is really impressive, and its not even a true weakness.
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Looking at your team, what do you do when facing Bulkup/Sub toxi. It looks like your only real checks are perish song and jirachi, who doesnt really like having to take drain punches just to break a sub. That set also beats gyarados 1v1. Other then that this team is really impressive, and its not even a true weakness.
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Jirachi can take it out with Psyshock; it's pretty weak compared to the SD set; most people do not expect Psyshock, especially after they have seen Water Pulse. This makes it very easy to take down.
 
Nice team, this team has most of OU's top threats covered. A Tinkerbell Celebi carrying Earth Powercould give your team some problems. With Leaf Storm, it takes out everyone on your team except Ferrothorn and Jirachi, who can't do anything back. Thunder Wave isn't gonna do jack shit with Natural Cure. Jirachi loses due to Earth Power. Currently your only means of defeating it is to Bounce with Gyarados and hope the opponent is a retard and doesn't switch out. I suggest running Signal Beam over Psyshock. Yes I'm serious Signal Beam. You get to run double confusion, which could win you a lot of matches just off confusion hax. Signal Beam hits everything you mentioned you use Psyshock for except Blissey and Jellicent. But what's Blissey going to do to Jirachi? Just get to +6 and hit away. The team is built around Conk and Gyara, both who lol @ Blissey anyways. Jellicent is a bit more problematic, but you should be able to play around it with Conk and Ferro.

As well, everyone on the team takes a beating from Landorus except Conkeldurr, who really can't do anything back. Since you've already got Conk dealing with Excadrill and Terrakion. You can afford to run a more defensive spread on Politoed to beat Lando. Since I've opened up a slight Jellicent weakness, you can patch it up by jacking M Dragon's Politoed set. Rotom-W still won't like switching in due to Toxic.

Politoed @ Leftovers
Drizzle
Bold
252 Hp/ 156 Def/ 64 SpA/ 40 Spe
Scald
Toxic
Perish Song
Ice Beam/ Protect
 
First off, congrats on your MAJOR success with this team, ShakeItUp. 1600 is unreal!

The only problem I see is defensive coverage. Since Ferrothorn is your physical wall and Gastrodon is your special wall, a Physical Fighting Sweeper (CB Terrakion) or a Special Grass Sweeper (Virizion) seems like a menace to this team. Gastrodon cannot tank SpecsHurricane from Tornados, either.

With your case with CB Terrakion, it's quite an underrated threat (CScarf is more common methinks), so it may not be worth the trouble. The good thing about this team is that all of your members can hit Terrakion hard. One thing you can try is investing some defensive EVs into Gastrodon. It's not as outrageous as you think. Gastrodon has large HP, and diverting ~80 EVs from HP to Defense wouldn't affect Gastrodon's special sponging, while making a huge difference for it to absorb odd physical abuses. For instance, with 84 EVs in Defense it drastically reduces Jolly CB Terrakion's chance of scoring an OHKO with Close Combat (58% -> 20%). May come in handy at times.

Making Jirachi specially-defensive imo is helpful. It prevents your entire team from being 2HKOed by Tornados, for one, and Wish and paralysis support will come in handy. Conkeldurr would especially appreciate Wish, because from my experience it gets banged up quickly (most players dont let Conky punch heal :/) It can still lure and weaken Gliscor for Conkeldurr with Water Pulse, or it can use Healing Wish to fully revive one of your mons, especially Gyarados, for a second chance. The latter move can be pretty clutch at times, especially for teams without Rapid Spin support. Water Pulse's main advantage is its ability to hit Magnezone hard when Jirachi gets trapped, as well as not being easy set-up bait for Excadrill, so both moves are legit. I believe that the support that this Jirachi provides compensates for losing one of your offensive mons.

Jirachi:
Iron Head | Thunder | Wish | Healing Wish / Water Pulse / U-turn
252 HP | 4 Atk | 252 SDef | Careful / Sassy Nature

Like Gastrodon, it does not need to be fully specially-defensive to tank special hits. You may very well go mixed defense and invest in its Defense to take hits from the likes of Terrakion better. Despite having 1-2 Special moves, Careful is the preferred nature. With only 20 EVs you can outrun some important threats, such as Modest SpecsToed / Adamant Breloom / Modest Magnezone. You may even want to play the speed creep game and nail a 3HKO on Gliscor with Water Pulse before it can touch Jirachi (48 EVs recommended)

Thanks for sharing your team, ShakeItUp!
 
This is a really solid team i remeber watching you use it on ladder,

I would recommend the use of leech seed on ferrothorn for extra recovery and it may also help out your other team mates with the recovery as your team seems quite susceptible to hazards.

Congrats on the high ladder peak
 
Sup dude,excellent team and it's ladder performance clearly reflects that.When I first skimmed through this RMT I couldn't help but notice how Terrakion weak it is.However,no team is perfect and even the best of the best have one if not more weaknesses.To fix that Terrakion weakness I'd reccomend Slowbro(252 hp 252 def 4spdef,Scald,Slack Off,Psychic,Ice Beam/Thunder Wave/Toxic) over Gastrodon.All Gastrodon really does is check Rotom-W and Thundurus.You can still check the former by changing Ferrothorn to a slightly specially defensive variant and the latter can be revenge killed by Scarftoed.On a smaller note,it also benefits from rain like Gastrodon and can hit harder with better coverage and higher base Spa.

You forgot to mention Ferrothorn as a check for Quagsire(albeit a shaky one as it stands a chance of getting burnt) and most people run more hp evs than spe evs on NPCelebi so you don't need to risk a 2HKO/3HKO with HP Fire on Ferro.(under rain ofcourse)just to paralyse it;you can Bounce on it straight away.Hope I helped.Good job peaking #2!
 
Specs Tornadus rips you apart by coming in for free on Conkeldurr and simply spamming Hurricane. Your only mon that avoids a 2HKO is Jirachi, who still takes a nasty 40%, can only manage a 2HKO in response, and doesn't have any way to recover HP - in fact, he's only going to be weakening himself with the use of Substitute. Nasty Plot Celebi is also threatening as hell; Ferrothorn's Thunder Wave + Gyara's Bounce isn't a surefire check because Cele has Natural Cure, so all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.

Changing Jirachi to a specially defensive variant
not only fixes these two problems, but it also gives you another viable Stealth Rocker, meaning you can drop Ferrothorn's SR for Leech Seed. Rachi's extra paralysis support also makes your Conkeldurr alot more devastating.

You mentioned that Terrakion gives you trouble, and I agree; Landorus is also a problem, as is Excadrill [although his dependence on sand being up slightly hinders him]. To fix these problems, try running Intimidate on Gyarados. Moxie is cool and all but it looks like more of a convenience than a necessity, since you've got a ton of entry hazards backing you up. With Intimidate, you soften up these threats' attacks before pivoting to Conkeldurr on the rock-type attack, allowing you to defeat them while taking minimal damage in the process.

Just a few things I think are worth trying, nice job hitting 1600! gl
 
Thanks for all the rates and compliments guys :P
I'm trying out the specially defensive Jirachi atm, but 1 major problem is that it makes me extremely weak to Toxicroak. I think it's worth it though in the long run though, but if anyone has any ideas how to fix that weakness it would be appreciated. ATM, I'm running a set of: Thunder / Wish / Iron Head, and for the last slot I'm testing: Stealth Rock / Protect / U-turn. I'm also testing out the Intimidate Gyarados and a more physically defensive version of Gastrodon.
 
Yea, people make fun of Toxicroak, but it's actually really tough to beat once you let it dance up. Intimidate on Gyarados certainly helps, but not quite.

I think the best option would be to send Politoed on the Swords Dance and kill it with Psychic. +2 LO Sucker Punch only has a slim chance to OHKO. Probably over Perish Song, since you shouldn't have problems with CM Latias and Reuniclus with your specially-defensive Jirachi. You can drop Politoed's Speed to 260, letting it still outrun +1 DNite while providing 2 pts in health. This will let you invest 12 EVs into HP instead of 4, preventing Toxicroak from killing Politoed with +2 Sucker Punch (84-99%).

Sub + Bulk Up / SubPunch Toxicroak are less devastating, so a combination of Gyarados's Intimidate before they set up a Substitute, and then a switch to Jirachi. Jirachi can then spam Thunder and paralyze it.

I preferably would leave SR to Ferrothorn, since Jirachi can do so much more with its movepool. Water Pulse seems ideal, because otherwise half of your team is walled by Gliscor, but the momentum provided by U-turn and the great utility of Healing Wish is also hard to ignore.
 
Alright, thanks Pocket, I'll try that out. I'll use Psychic over Hypnosis though, as I use Perish Song much more often than Hypnosis, which misses 3/4ths of the time anyway.
 
Sub + Bulk Up / SubPunch Toxicroak are less devastating, so a combination of Gyarados's Intimidate before they set up a Substitute, and then a switch to Jirachi. Jirachi can then spam Thunder and paralyze it.

I preferably would leave SR to Ferrothorn, since Jirachi can do so much more with its movepool. Water Pulse seems ideal, because otherwise half of your team is walled by Gliscor, and Gliscor can use Jirachi to restore whatever health it lost during its bout with Conky. However, the momentum provided by U-turn and the great utility of Healing Wish is also hard to ignore.
 
Great team, idk if you remember but I saw you get 2nd in a tourney with this team yesterday. Man, that gyarados really is good. Not much to rate here considering that the team has given you #2 ranking on the leaderboards.
 
Great team, idk if you remember but I saw you get 2nd in a tourney with this team yesterday. Man, that gyarados really is good. Not much to rate here considering that the team has given you #2 ranking on the leaderboards.
I played in a tourney? ._.
Idr, but if I did, I just joined it for fun, not trying to seriously win or anything :P
Thanks though dude :P Gyarados is truly a boss.
 
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