ok, it'll be fine
but it's not a safe counter
but it's not a safe counter
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A Pokemon that can switch into a Pokemon, that's what the original post says, so that's what I go by. But I was just saying, don't take back your counter on my account.
Well then it really just depends what dusknoir is going to use but then again if dusknoir switching into froslass its dead too so I guess its a double KO possibility depending on who switches meaning they counter each other so it is still considered a counter in my eyes. It may not be a complete counter in every way but it's still a counter.
but in our game
dusknoir is out, so therefore, froslass loses out
dusknoir is the poke to counter
dusknoir is out, so therefore, froslass loses out
dusknoir is the poke to counter
We could go so far back to a bunch of posts that didn't take the switching part in to consideration but since it's not really needed lets give another counter to my counter's counter. I see now that my counter cannot switch in to any of dusknoir's moves so you are right my counter is not a counter to dusknoir but also I could just shift the EVs to defense and/or HP to eat 2 shadow punches so there. It survives :naughty:.
Okay, we can discuss it all day, but I'm going to counter Dusknoir since Frosslass does not do so successfully according to the rules (which say that you must switch in to the previous Poke and KO it before it KOs you).
Entei @ Choice Specs
Modest, Pressure
4 HP/ 252 S.Atk/ 252 Spd
-Fire Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Extrasensory
-HP Ice
Sooo, Focus Punch does a third at max, otherwise less. Fire Blast (or Shadow Ball) is a 2KO, and even though Pain Split is annoying, Entei will come out on top.
Entei @ Choice Specs
Modest, Pressure
4 HP/ 252 S.Atk/ 252 Spd
-Fire Blast
-Shadow Ball
-Extrasensory
-HP Ice
Sooo, Focus Punch does a third at max, otherwise less. Fire Blast (or Shadow Ball) is a 2KO, and even though Pain Split is annoying, Entei will come out on top.
O.o ok... but lets say I switched the speed evs to defense and changed nature to Bold? Bah anyways I just waisted like 10 minutes of calculations for dragonite o well. I'll continue with the other pokemon.
Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/ 252 Def / 6 SAtk
~Moonlight
~Calm Mind
~Hidden Power Ground
~Thunder Wave
Please don't hate me. A legendary for a legendary. Survives explosion and calm mind moonlights the rest of the moves while t waves heatran and HP ground's him.
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Ice Fang
Walled.
Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/ 6 Def / 252 SAtk
~Moonlight
~Calm Mind
~Ice Beam
~Thunder Wave
Walled lols. (Not same cress I replaced HP ground with Ice Beam for I'm pretty sure at least a 2HKO or most likely a OHKO and switched EVs.
Bronzong@leftovers
Levitate
Bold
252/128/82/48 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF/SP.ATK)
HP Ice
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
resists AA and ice fang, immune to EQ, hits back with HP ice
DAMN YOU, i was beaten to it
Levitate
Bold
252/128/82/48 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF/SP.ATK)
HP Ice
Calm Mind
Psychic
Shadow Ball
resists AA and ice fang, immune to EQ, hits back with HP ice
DAMN YOU, i was beaten to it
Cresselia @ Leftovers
Calm
252 HP/ 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
~Moonlight
~Calm Mind
~Hidden Power Fire
~Thunder Wave
Seriously give me something that Cress can't counter by switching around nature, evs, and one moveslot.
oh yea
mixerupt FTW
Camerupt@expert belt
Solid Rock
Adamant
252/176/82 (HP/SP.ATK/ATK)
Eruption
Earthquake
Stone Edge
HP Dark
what now...i just countered a cressy with camerupt
anyways, immune to twave, takes NFE from HP fire, will KO before it gets KO'd
well, that bronzong did counter your cressy anyways
mixerupt FTW
Camerupt@expert belt
Solid Rock
Adamant
252/176/82 (HP/SP.ATK/ATK)
Eruption
Earthquake
Stone Edge
HP Dark
what now...i just countered a cressy with camerupt
anyways, immune to twave, takes NFE from HP fire, will KO before it gets KO'd
well, that bronzong did counter your cressy anyways
Here it is:
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful@ 76/144/36/0/252/0
Curse
Rest
Boldy Slam
Crunch
Shrugs off any of Cressy's attacks all day long(even HP Fight), Curses up and kills with Crunch.
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful@ 76/144/36/0/252/0
Curse
Rest
Boldy Slam
Crunch
Shrugs off any of Cressy's attacks all day long(even HP Fight), Curses up and kills with Crunch.
@Snorlax
Aggron
@Leftovers
252Hp/252ATK/6def
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
Substitutes don't break against body slam or crunch. Focus Punch to the face. If you can predict curse you can punch on that too or while 'lax rests.
Aggron
@Leftovers
252Hp/252ATK/6def
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
Substitutes don't break against body slam or crunch. Focus Punch to the face. If you can predict curse you can punch on that too or while 'lax rests.
you guys were supposed to counter camerupt, which i think snorlax does...but not 100% sure
Cresselia @ Leftovers
Modest
252 HP/ 252 SAtk / 6 SDef
~Moonlight
~Calm Mind
~Hidden Power Water
~Thunder Wave
Seriously that was a poor counter im sure cresselia could have even killed that thing even with hidden power fire. Anyways HP Dark with expert belt doesn't even do crap nor does full health Eruption (which is stronger than HP Dark without expert belt) with such low SPAtk but hey im not going to ask you to switch your counter or that its crap like some people. Anyways crap Hit Points + crap SDef + x4 Weakness + Hidden Power Water = crap where camerupt used to be standing.
camerupt has base 105 sp. atk, and base 100 atk
since when are those stats crap
at least give props for someone using a camerupt over some OU poke
since when are those stats crap
at least give props for someone using a camerupt over some OU poke
Lols they were so mad at my cocky cresselia they wanted it to die 3 times. There crap Sp.Atk when you look at the nature and Evs. Camerupt doesn't even kill cress and you guys didn't give me props for using froslass nor did you point out that camerupt isn't a counter to cress like you guys pointed out that froslass isn't a counter. Ya i'm still mad about that. Anyways props to you non OU user *claps*.
you know what
Cressy@leftovers
Bold
252/176/56/22 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF/SP.ATK)
Calm Mind
Psychic
HP Fight
Shadow Ball
counters any cressy all day
Cressy@leftovers
Bold
252/176/56/22 (HP/DEF/SP.DEF/SP.ATK)
Calm Mind
Psychic
HP Fight
Shadow Ball
counters any cressy all day
Ok... so where do we go on from here....
Uh, no. Camerupt has great special attack power. HP fire v. HP Dark = lol
Anyway:
@Cresselia (HP water + thunderwave)
Quagsire
Impish (though it doesn't really matter)
Water Absorb
Leftovers
252HP/252DEF/sp.DEF
-Toxic
-Stockpile
-Earthquake
-Protect
Toxic, and a bunch of others to lol and screw around while cresselia sits their dumbfounded.
edit: ah, beat.
Anyway:
@Cresselia (HP water + thunderwave)
Quagsire
Impish (though it doesn't really matter)
Water Absorb
Leftovers
252HP/252DEF/sp.DEF
-Toxic
-Stockpile
-Earthquake
-Protect
Toxic, and a bunch of others to lol and screw around while cresselia sits their dumbfounded.
edit: ah, beat.
uhhhh
i guess we can say cressy's a bitch and leave it at that
or find something to counter it, which will most likely be blissey, who'll then be countered by hopefully heracross, then some counter from there, and we move on
we're onto my cressy...
i guess we can say cressy's a bitch and leave it at that
or find something to counter it, which will most likely be blissey, who'll then be countered by hopefully heracross, then some counter from there, and we move on
we're onto my cressy...
Cressy@leftovers
Calm
252 Hp / 252 SDef / 6 SPAtk
~Calm Mind
~Moonlight
~Thunder Wave
~Shadow Ball
I'm too lazy to calculate and it's going to be a long battle but my cress will come out on top.
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