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nardd said:
Have you ever tried switching that weezing into a modest heatran's STAB overheat?

@heatran

dragonite@lefties
252hp 252spdef 6att
-earth % Cbr>-outrage
-sub
-fireblast
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Sorry, but could you write this out again, I can't tell what the four moves are.
 
im pretty sure its

dragonite@leftovers
252hp/252sp.def
earth power
outrage
sub
fire blast

reposting this to promote discution, come on people reply.

someone should ask choop to edit this into the first post.
1. no sheddy
2. no ubers

what do people think about focus sash, explotion, OHKO moves, evation increceing moves? maybe even blissey? all those are considord cheap by some people in this game, or banned from standerd play.
i think OHKO moves, and evation + moves should be banned, but the others are fine.

and what % chance of wining does the counter have to have? 50%? a bit low, many pokes could come in and hit with inacurate moves/brighpower + sub hax or stuff. 70%? sounds good to me, maybe a bit too low still, i like 75% or 80%. 100%? well most moves do not have 100% acricy so a pokemon would have to have all 100% moves. if its 100% then what beats draco metior C specs kingdra? it can 1KO bliss with a crit, so bliss is not a total counter.
 
No, the set is:

Dragonite @ lefties
252 HP / 252 spdef / 6 HP
- Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Sub
- Earthquake

Dragonite cannot learn Earth Power.
 
Steelix,

Solrock @ Leftovers
Naughty, Levitate
252 HP/ 252 Atk/ 4 Spd
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Overheat
-Cosmic Power

Survives Explosion, or takes about a 4KO from Stone Edge, then raises its defenses a bit and KOs.
 
Solrock,

Pinsir @ Choice Band
Mold Breaker
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Close Combat

Overheat does 72~, X Scissor/EQ for the OHKO.
 
Shadowhawk11 said:
Solrock,

Pinsir @ Choice Band
Mold Breaker
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Close Combat

Overheat does 72~, X Scissor/EQ for the OHKO.
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Gligar@Leftovers
Impish 252 Def/252 HP/6 HP
- Aerial Ace
- EQ
- Roost
- Knock Off
 
Gligar,

Glalie @ Leftovers
252 HP/ 252 S.Atk/ 4 Spd
Modest, Ice Body
-Substitute
-Hail
-Blizzard
-Dark Pulse

Takes a 3KO from EQ if Gligar is reeeally lucky. Easy KO.
 
Emu said:
Gligar,

Glalie @ Leftovers
252 HP/ 252 S.Atk/ 4 Spd
Modest, Ice Body
-Substitute
-Hail
-Blizzard
-Dark Pulse

Takes a 3KO from EQ if Gligar is reeeally lucky. Easy KO.
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Happiny@Leftovers
Serene Grace Bold 252 Def/252 HP
- Calm Mind
- Softboiled
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt

Pretty gay, i know.
 
Hahaha, that's cunning, as Shedinja would eventually die to struggle recoil.

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Calm
252 HP/124 SpAtk/128 SpDef/6 Speed
Nasty Plot
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
HP: Fighting
 
Karrot said:
Hahaha, that's cunning, as Shedinja would eventually die to struggle recoil.

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Calm
252 HP/124 SpAtk/128 SpDef/6 Speed
Nasty Plot
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
HP: Fighting
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Honchkrow@Leftovers
Insomia
Adamant 252 Attack/252 Speed
- Drill Peck
- Toxic
- Steel Wing
- Pursuit
 
At Articuno,


Lanturn - Leftovers
Ability - Volt Absorb
Nature - Modest
EVs, HP-204, Defense-152, Sp.Atk-152.

Moves,
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Bolt
- Surf

All of those attacks do diddly squat, T-waves, then T.Bolts to death.

EDIT: Oh snap, too slow.
 
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