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The Counter Game

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@ Aggron
Bronzong @ lefties
Relaxed; 252 HP, 180 def, 76 att
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Hypnosis
- Trick Room
0 Speed IV

Comes in on any move and does a lot with EQ, not sure if it OHKOs. Resists everything too. :)

EDIT: Damage: 62.06% - 73.05%
Okay, 2hkoes with EQ.


Rampardos@Choice Scarf

Jolly

HP 6/Atk 252/Spd 252

EQ
Head Smash
Stone Edge
Brick Break

Moldbreaker and EQ hit Bronzong.
 
That Rampardos isn't a counter to the Bronzong bejlash posted, especialy if it had Trick Roomed before (lol at Scarf + Jolly here). Assuming that, Bronzong will be going first and Gyro Ball is a OHKO on Rampardos on the switch in and EQ a 2HKO, so Rampardos wouldn't even have a chance to attack. Even if you don't assume Trick Room, Gyro Ball will still murder it on the switch in and since Bronzong has a chance to survive the 2HKO by EQ (in this case even if it doesn't won't matter), he'd also be able to hit Rampardos on the switch with EQ, survive his foe's own EQ, and finish it off with another EQ.
There's also Hypnosis which Rampardos won't like at all.


@ Bronzong

Zapdos @Leftovers
Calm 252 Hp/ 220 SpA/ 36 Spd
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- T-Bolt
- HP Ice

Imune to EQ, resists Gyro Ball (pretty sure it's not even around max power) and can take the sleep. A rip off from the analysis (couldn't be bothered to think up something else, sorry, I should be asleep by now), except with SpD switched to SpA so it can 3HKO with T-Bolt, since the SpD EVs don't matter here anyways.
 
@ Zapdos

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
252 atk, 252 spd, 6 s.atk
Admant nature
- Shadow Sneak
- X-Scissor
- Return
- Swords Dance

Immune to Zapdos's attacks. Can Swords Dance up and KO it when its good and ready.
 
Rodger's Shedinja:

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Impish@ 252/4/252/0/0/0
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Slack Off

Comes in on bascially anything, and nukes poor old Shedinja with Sand Stream. Nuff said.
 
Rodger's Shedinja:

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Impish@ 252/4/252/0/0/0
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Slack Off

Comes in on bascially anything, and nukes poor old Shedinja with Sand Stream. Nuff said.

Bronzong@Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EV Spread: 252 HP/100 Def/128 SpA/24 Attack
Nature: Sassy
-Explosion
-Psychic
-Grass Knot
-Rest

Can switch in on any attack, and Grass Knots for the KO.
 
@ Bronzong

Heatran @ Specs
Modest; 252 SpA, 216 Speed, 40 HP
- Fire Blast
- Overheat
- Earth Power
- HP Ice

Resists everything and OHKOes with Overheat/Fire Blast.
 
@heatran

Snorlax @ leftovers
adamant; 252 hp, 252 attack, 6 sp. def
Thick Fat
Earthquake
Return
Rest
Sleep Talk

Thick fat lols at fire blast, overheat, and hp ice, while ohkoing you back with earthquake.
 
@Snorlax

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Timid; 116hp/140spatk/252spd
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Fighting
Substitute

Comes in, Subs, Calm Minds and wins.
 
@Snorlax

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Timid; 116hp/140spatk/252spd
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power Fighting
Substitute

Comes in, Subs, Calm Minds and wins.


Gengar@Black Sludge

Timid

6 hp/252 spatk/252 spd

Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Gengar are stronger and faster than Mismagius and OHKO it with Shadow Ball i think.
 
Gengar@Black Sludge

Timid

6 hp/252 spatk/252 spd

Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Gengar are stronger and faster than Mismagius and OHKO it with Shadow Ball i think.

Weavile@Focus Sash
Trait: Pressure
EV Spread: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 HP
Nature: Jolly
-Aerial Ace
-Ice Punch
-Night Slash
-Brick Break

Switches in, Sash takes effect and OHKO's with Night Slash.
 
Spiritomb@Leftovers
252 hp / 128 sp def / 128 def
Bold
Wil'o'wisp
Pain split
Hidden power fighting
Shadow ball

Heracross@Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EV Spread: 104 HP/252 Attack/152 Speed
Nature: Adamant
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash

Heracross can take a Shadow Ball and HP Fighting, and is waiting to be Will-O-Wisped to activate Guts and it's Bulky enough to stay in the battle longer because of its HP EVs. Megahorn can 3KO Spiritomb with those EVs given.
 
Uh, Heracross "can't" take 2 Shadow Balls. Regardless,

Staraptor @ Weakening-rock berry
Jolly 252/252
Brave Bird
Close Combat
U-Turn
Whirlwind

lol Megahorn resist.
 
Uh, Heracross "can't" take 2 Shadow Balls. Regardless,

Staraptor @ Weakening-rock berry
Jolly 252/252
Brave Bird
Close Combat
U-Turn
Whirlwind

lol Megahorn resist.

Wrong. Heracross can take 2 Shadow Balls. The third Shadow Ball KO's it. But I guess your right that it isn't really a counter, because right before It tries to hit the third Megahorn it's KO'd.

Anyways,

Cresselia@Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EV Spread: 252 HP/252 Defense/4 SpA
Nature: Bold
-Charge Beam
-Ice Beam
-Rest
-Light Screen

Comes in and 2KO's Staraptor with Ice Beam.
 
Props for not thinking Rest always needs Sleep Talk to be effective.

Jirachi @ Choice Specs
Modest 252/252
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Fighting]
Water Pulse

Even if you Light Screen on the switch, it's going to take quite a few Charge Beams and not a lot of Shadow Balls to end it.
 
Props for not thinking Rest always needs Sleep Talk to be effective.

Jirachi @ Choice Specs
Modest 252/252
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Fighting]
Water Pulse

Even if you Light Screen on the switch, it's going to take quite a few Charge Beams and not a lot of Shadow Balls to end it.

Garchomp@Choice Band
Trait: Sand Viel
EV Spread: 16 HP/252 Attack/240 Speed
Nature: Lonely
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Stone Edge
-Fire Blast

1 Psychic isn't enough to KO Chomp....and one EQ from Chomp OHKOs the hell out of Jirachi.
 
Garchomp@Choice Band
Trait: Sand Viel
EV Spread: 16 HP/252 Attack/240 Speed
Nature: Lonely
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Stone Edge
-Fire Blast

1 Psychic isn't enough to KO Chomp....and one EQ from Chomp OHKOs the hell out of Jirachi.
Bronzong @ Leftovers
Bold@ 252/0/128/128/0/0
Calm Mind
HP Ice
Psychic
Luster Cannon

Blocks all of Garchomp's attacks, CM's to prevent FB from killing it and KOing with HP Ice.
 
@ Bronzong

Houndoom@choice specs
Modest
252 sp. atk, 252 sp. def, 4hp
-Overheat
-Flamethrower
-Dark Pulse
-hp grass

Can switch in on hp ice or psychic, and can OHKO after on bronzong CM.
 
Dugtrio @ Choice Band
Adamant 252/252/6
EQ
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace
Sucker Punch

Flamethrower resist. EQ you to dead.
 
I just ran a calc on flamethrower on duggy, and it will always OHKO min/min dugtrios, since ground doesn't resist fire attacks. anyway,

Swampert@chesto berry
Impish
252 hp, 252 def, 4 atk
-Curse
-Rest
-Waterfall
-Earthquake

Switches in on preferably stone edge, ohkos with waterfall.
 
I just ran a calc on flamethrower on duggy, and it will always OHKO min/min dugtrios, since ground doesn't resist fire attacks. anyway,

Swampert@chesto berry
Impish
252 hp, 252 def, 4 atk
-Curse
-Rest
-Waterfall
-Earthquake

Switches in on preferably stone edge, ohkos with waterfall.

Yep, a Flamethrower from a Modest Specs Houndoom does indeed OHKO a Dugtrio. Anyways, to the Swampert..

Cresselia@Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EV Spread: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
Nature: Bold
-Rest
-Charge Beam
-Energy Ball
-Ice Beam

Immune to STAB EQ, and can take 4 Waterfalls with 1 Curse set up. 2KO's Swampy with Energy Ball.
 
@ Cresselia

Pinsir @ Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Mold Breaker ability
Admant nature
- X-Scissor
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Heracross Lite. Now with STAB Bug attacks. 2HKO's with a CB STAB X-Scissor.
 
@ Cresselia

Pinsir @ Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Mold Breaker ability
Admant nature
- X-Scissor
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Heracross Lite. Now with STAB Bug attacks. 2HKO's with a CB STAB X-Scissor.

Flygon@Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EV Spread: 252 SpA/252 Speed/4 HP
Nature: Timid
-Draco Meteor
-Earth Power
-Fire Blast
-HP Electric

Immune to Stone Edge and EQ (Damage Wise), survives Close Combat and X-Scissor by 4 HP and OHKOs Pinsir with Fire Blast.
 
Flygon@Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EV Spread: 252 SpA/252 Speed/4 HP
Nature: Timid
-Draco Meteor
-Earth Power
-Fire Blast
-HP Electric

Immune to Stone Edge and EQ (Damage Wise), survives Close Combat and X-Scissor by 4 HP and OHKOs Pinsir with Fire Blast.

Starmie@ Expert Belt
Jolly 252 Spped 252 sp.attack

- Ice Beam
- T-Bolt
- Surf
- Psychic
 
Starmie@ Expert Belt
Jolly 252 Spped 252 sp.attack

- Ice Beam
- T-Bolt
- Surf
- Psychic

1. Not a counter. SpecsFlygon OHKOs Starmie with Draco Meteor, even at its weakest Power..
Defender HP: 262
Damage: 287 - 337
Damage: 109.54% - 128.63%

2. Why would you run Jolly on a Special Sweeper? I know you meant to put Timid.
 
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