The greatest religious prophets have all been trolls of the highest caliber

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Look at Zeno of Elea. He intellectually bested anybody that dare argue against his master Parmenides with such ferocity that he was universally decried a Sophist and rejected from the pissant academic community. Centuries later, Calculus was invented to try to come up with a decent refutation of his arguments.

Look at the great Sikh gurus, with their fiery denouncements of the flaws of other faiths and their pronouncement of Jains as sniveling morons. Look at Jesus, nagging and trolling the Pharisees so much that they stapled him to a cross. Look at Moses having so much control over his followers that he makes them do absolutely hilarious things like strap boxes to their heads and arms and wave about. Socrates was the quintessential troll, showing the hypocrisy of a nepotistic aristocracy solely by acting like a jackass and banging little kids.

Trolling doesn't mean lying. Trolling is a method, a style of rhetoric and action. Richard Dawkins is on the other side of amorality, but he is trolling too. Is he an effective troll? Yes, absolutely. Does he believe every word he says? Yes, absolutely.

Without the troll style of rhetoric a prophet couldn't possibly have interested anyone. Largely, religion has resigned itself to completely avoiding any truth about race or history in favor of a new kind of "gentle" religion that cannot offend anyone. This is essentially a quiet death to the words and actions of Christ, which were explicitly about resisting subjugation at the hands of world Jewry, and a death to faith's role in social justice at large.
 
to be honest, I don't understand how this gross oversimplification of reality is necessary or informative other than "oh cute, that's a funny way of looking at things." that said, oh cute, that's a funny way of looking at things.
 
Abuse:

I represent the new God.
He has not yet revealed His name, but He prefers the male pronoun to the female one. A dream came to me and told me it was androgynous to please everyone, something like Chris or Alex or Kelley.

In this new era, we shall have a colorblind society free from racial quotas. We will not kill black, latino, and potentially gay children in cold buildings to appease radical savages who have turned on their own nature. We shall never again ravage families by making them the dependent class of a fat, bloated state that supplants fatherhood with the promise of ever greater sums of stolen treasury from the productive, who work in earnest and zeal for the greatness of humanity.

We shall overcome the blind political correctness of the past and embrace a new era where we can define where life begins, but refuse to define humanity as the cause of all global ills just because we can replicate the farmer's almanac on a computer screen. We will stop making excuses for people who know damn well the cause and effects of the basic human procreative act instead of bullshitting people that we left our minds back in 1973.

This age shall no longer pit black against white, man against woman, rich against poor, Marxist against Hitlerist against Stalinist against Communist against straight-jacket Collectivist against Mussolinist! Barriers between the collectives of the world shall fall until only the individual is recognized as the building block of society.

Amen (yes it is!) I say to you, it will be a golden age where all the trials and tribulations of race and class that have haunted and degraded our previously corrupt society will be vanquished.

Follow Him, and He shall lead you to the light!


@moot: maybe this is a fitting template?
 
moot said:
so when are you going to invent your own religion
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It's not really my thing. I doubt I could really outdo L. Ron Hubbard and his pleasure cruise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Org

Blame Game said:
to be honest, I don't understand how this gross oversimplification of reality is necessary or informative other than "oh cute, that's a funny way of looking at things." that said, oh cute, that's a funny way of looking at things.
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Oh, cute, Blame Game weighed in on the discussion. All I'm saying is that to be a successful religious prophet you have to be a fantastic troll. This even extends to political figures (although, not entirely) with people like Ghandi who encouraged civil disobedience.

Walking miles and miles just to get some salt instead of working? Grade A trolling.
 
Lets not forget the biggest trolls of all time so far, and are currently trolling people today; the Mayans. Their dang calender is making tons of people think the end is in 3 years for no reason at all. Thats godly trolling for a mid-sized Central American society wiped out soon after the Europeons came (or something around that).

Anyways, things like religoun and all these things that could be considered "trolling" (kinda funny to say its trolling) were put in place to control the people and subordinate them to a leader or encourage unity of a group generally. It was simply their approach to leading a society/group.
 
@mudkip
I think it's debatable whether or not you can troll from the grave. Maybe if it was your intention to do so originally?
 
Abuse said:
Oh, cute, Blame Game weighed in on the discussion. All I'm saying is that to be a successful religious prophet you have to be a fantastic troll.
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It's just difficult for me to question your unsupported argument when it uses an empty term like "troll." I mean what you're actually saying basically amounts to "you need to draw attention to yourself for people to pay attention to what you're saying." Like, "ok?" I think it's somewhat amusing to then go and say, right or wrong, that "we on the internet typically regard these sorts of people as 'trolls,'" but beyond that, I don't see how you're saying anything of particular merit here at all.
 
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