OU The Legitimacy of Rhydon in GSC OU

Hello everyone,

After a lot of thought, I began to wonder how viable Rhydon truly is in GSC OU. After playing a bit of OU and spending some time in the team builder, it seems that everything Rhydon offers can be emulated by other Normal resists that come with additional benefits.

As a Curse sweeper, Rhydon's preferred set (Rock Slide + Earthquake + Curse + Roar) is vulnerable to Toxic and is easily shut down by the ubiquitous Cloyster or any of the legendary Electrics running Hidden Power Water (even HP Ice deals considerable damage). If you opt for a mono-Rock set with Rest as the last move to address the status issue, then you have to ask—why not just use Tyranitar? While Tyranitar lacks an Electric immunity and doesn’t quite match Rhydon’s raw physical bulk, it makes up for it in virtually every other area. As a Rock/Ground type, Rhydon fails as an Electric absorber because it gets destroyed by Hidden Power Ice and Water. In this role, it’s also outclassed by Golem, who offers more utility with Rapid Spin and the wall-breaking Explosion. When considered as a Snorlax phazer, Rhydon’s bulk allows it to be a decent response, but its susceptibility to status and poor special defense often make Steelix the more appealing option in that phazer/Lax check slot. Even as a Ground that could spread paralysis, Nidoking offers that with Thunder with additional utility in Thief and Lovely Kiss.

In the team builder, it's incredibly difficult to find a place for Rhydon. In battle, you have to play very carefully to avoid special super effective attacks and Toxic. All of its potential roles can be better performed by another Normal resist or Ground type. Why is it still in OU? It can't shine a lot in the tier, but what about the tier below it?

Examining the UU roster of Pokémon, Rhydon could have solid niches there. Its powerful Rock Slides and Earthquakes could allow it to be a wall breaker, it could even go mono Rock without having to compete with another Rock/Ground. Its typing and bulk can allow it to perform defensive duties against threats like Granbull, Scyther, and Dodrio. As for its checks and counters the UU tier is filled with bulky water types, a decent amount of grass types, and a lot of powerful special attackers with Rhydon hitting coverage. I think it may be worth it to drop Rhydon to UU and test it there.

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I've never been able to build a Rhydon team that doesn't feel like a fish. It's dangerous but its matchup spread is horrible when you consider all the things packing strong special stab, ice/water/grass coverage, stab eq/cc, or toxic. Feels unreliable as a long-term lax check, hit and run attacker or curse sweeper. It can cook sometimes but so can high-end UUBLs like Espeon, P2, Molt etc. If any more experienced players have any wisdom about how Rhydon is being underutilized that would be cool to see, but right now IMO it doesn't merit the OU label. Also would love to see some usage stats from recent tours.
 
I've never been able to build a Rhydon team that doesn't feel like a fish. It's dangerous but its matchup spread is horrible when you consider all the things packing strong special stab, ice/water/grass coverage, stab eq/cc, or toxic. Feels unreliable as a long-term lax check, hit and run attacker or curse sweeper. It can cook sometimes but so can high-end UUBLs like Espeon, P2, Molt etc. If any more experienced players have any wisdom about how Rhydon is being underutilized that would be cool to see, but right now IMO it doesn't merit the OU label. Also would love to see some usage stats from recent tours.
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(From SPL XVI GSC Discussion)

The description sums it up pretty well. For a little more detail, Rhydon's typing and special bulk does not allow it to do much outside of checking most Snorlax variants. Thanks to Rhydon being the primary Snorlax check on many teams, Rhydon can't abuse certain opportunities in fear it'll take too much damage (or get blunted by status) to efficiently check Snorlax. For example, in a situation where Raikou is getting ready to rest, any Ground type (or Tyranitar ) would love the opportunity to harass Raikou and cause the opponent to juggle defensive switches. Rhydon can't be so liberal with switching it because takes minimum ~43% from a Hidden Power Ice (not factoring in spikes). If it can't switch into a sleeping Raikou safely, then it sure can't switch into Zapdos who deals a minimum of ~45% from a Hidden Power Ice.
 
I feel like Rhydon has always been one of those things where you remind yourself "oh yeah I should probably be able to handle that" but, at the same time, is awfully shaky to be piloting yourself. In this era where you're probably already running EQ or even Surf on Lax to punish Golem, though, Rhydon's taken a backseat even in the former regard (although I will say that the cost of letting Golem do its thing unopposed is less immediately painful than letting Rhydon do the same).

Still, it's hard not to look at builds like NidoGarTar where everything except Snorlax takes SE damage from Rhydon's STABs and wonder if it's worth kicking the tires on ol' Rhydon and mixing it into your rotation.

That said, I think a drop to UU might be a bit hasty. Surely there are UUBLs worth dropping before we start targeting Rhydon, no?
 
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