The Sand Warriors: Another OU Sandstorm RMT

INTRO:

Hello, Smogon, this is my third RMT post here, and is also an update from my last RMT. I would say that this team has gathered a bit more success on Shoddy Battle than the last one, and over half the team has been updated. I also have two rules with myself concerning which Pokemon I choose, and I would appreciate it if you guys would take that into consideration with your rates.

-NO LEGENDARIES. Seriously, why would you? Some of them are so cheap they disgust me. Choice Scarfed Jirachi with Iron Head? That's no fun for either player (Me because it's so annoying, and the user because it's so bland). I don't even use legendaries for in-game purposes. Bottom line, they're no fun.

-NO SCIZOR. Could ANYTHING be any more used to the point that it is bland and dull? Almost EVERYWHERE I look, I see another Scizor. I breathe a sigh of relief when it's a Swords Dance version, as those aren't used as much. But still, it's also no fun.

This was the original team that was not posted at Smogon:
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After several updates, this was the team posted at Smogon in my last RMT:
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And now,(drum roll please), after even more updates, without further ado, here are The Sand Warriors!

At a Glance:
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In Depth:

The StarFish Anti-Lead
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Starmie@Life Orb (Twinkle)
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Nature: Timid
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin
Description:
Metagross has been changed to Starmie for the anti-lead against common Stealth-Rockers. Attack, then Rapid Spin to get rid of the 1HP left from Focus Sash, also getting rid of Stealth Rock, Spikes, etc. that might threaten Lucario (as he has a Focus Sash). The only problem this gives me is 3 weaknesses to Bug and loss of Stealth Rock. If somebody can give me advice on this (unless SR really isn't needed), then say so.


Starmie is named Twinkle because it is a star. Duh.


Synergy:
Electric goes to Hippowdon, Rotom-c, and Cradily.
Grass goes to Lucario.
Dark goes to Lucario.
Bug goes to Lucario, Rotom-c, and Gyarados.
Ghost goes to Lucario.

The Steel Jackal
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Lucario(F)@Focus Sash (Anubis)
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Attack, 4 Defense, 252 Speed
Nature: Adamant
-Close Combat
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Swords Dance

Description:
Lucario....is....AWESOME! It looks awesome, it battles awesome, and has an awesome movepool! I knew from the start it would be on my team. First I Swords Dance to double my attack, then attack away! It is just awesome. Close Combat is a 100 accuracy, base 120 power move, at the cost of Defense and Sp. Defense, which is no problem. Extremespeed is for priority, and Ice Punch is chosen over Crunch for a surprise for Gliscor and bothersome Dragons. You're probably thinking: What? Focus Sash over Life Orb? What is he thinking? Well, Focus Sash has saved my @ss so many times, I can't count them. My opponent's always like: Hahaha! I can kill this thang without blinking! But, no, it's got..FOCUS SASH! Nooooo! I'm dooooomed! So you see, Focus Sash works better for me than Life Orb, and I'm not changing that.

Lucario is named Anubis because it looks a lot like the Egyptian god Anubis, who had the head of a jackal.


Synergy:
Ground goes to Gyarados and Rotom-c.
Fire goes to Gyarados and Starmie.
Fighting goes to Gyarados, Starmie, and Rotom-c.

The Hippopotamus who Somehow Gets a Sandstorm Going, Which Makes No Sense Whatsoever, but You Don't Question it Because it's A Fictional Creature that Appears in Video Games
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Hippowdon(M)@Leftovers (Sand Horse)
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP, 168 Defense, 88 Sp. Defense
Nature: Impish
-Earthquake
-Roar
-Stone Edge
-Slack Off

Description:
My physical wall. It works wonders in absorbing physical attacks. An Electivire's Ice Punch doesn't even do 20% on me. Earthquake is for STAB, Stone Edge is for flying foes, Roar is for phazing purposes, and Slack Off for instant recovery. I'm proud to say that this takes on Choice Banded Scizor fairly well, taking only about 20%-30% from a Bullet Punch. So I just Earthquake, heal, Earthquake, heal, rinse and repeat. I chose this over Tyranitar because it adds to the defensive core of the team, and is less used than Tyranitar, which makes this team less bland from the standard Metagross and Lucario, even though this is still the most common Hippowdon set. The reason this is third instead of first is because of opposing weather teams. I kill off their Abomasnow, then interrupt hail with some sand. Kingdra wreaking havoc among my team? Interrupt the rain with some sand. Exeggutor Solarbeaming the shittake mushrooms out of my team? Interrupt the sunshine with some sand. It's simple.

Hippos are nicknamed the "water horse." Since Hippowdon is not very affiliated with water, "Sand Horse" fits better.


Synergy:
Water goes to Gyarados and Starmie.
Ice goes to Starmie and Lucario.
Grass goes to Lucario.

The Big, Scary Fish
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Gyarados(M)@Leftovers (GoFish)
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP, 108 Attack, 100 Defense, 144 Speed
Nature: Adamant
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Stone Edge
-Taunt

Description:
Gyarados has been changed into the bulky version to help against stall teams. Item has been changed to Leftovers. I'm sure all of you know this. Taunt is for Phazers, set-up sweepers, etc., Dragon Dance up, and attempt a sweep with Waterfall and Stone Edge.


Go Fish is a card game, as you probably know. So, Go Fish!


Synergy:
Rock goes to Lucario, Metagross, and Hippowdon.
Electric goes to Hippowdon, Rotom-c, and Cradily

The Prehistoric Plant
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Cradily(M)@Lum Berry (Paleo)
Ability: Suction Cups
EVs: 252 HP, 160 Defense, 96 Sp. Defense
Nature: Careful
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Recover
-Swords Dance

Description:
Cradily, Cradily, Cradily. Always underestimated. Very usable in OU, yet condemned to the life of an NU Pokemon. All because of its movepool and its typing. *tsk,tsk,tsk* Seriously, this needs to be at least an UU Pokemon. It's not that bad! In fact, because of the 50% Sp. Defense boost from the sandstorm, it functions very well as a Special Wall! Recover is a given for recovery, Rock Slide and Earthquake are for attacking options, and Swords Dance...well, I need to explain that choice. Usually, people go with Toxic, or even Confuse Ray. But, the offensive version works so well (I've tried it)! The thing is, it's so frail! One U-Turn from Scizor will kill it, but using this version, it won't! The problem is, its Attack is only 198. Hmmm... how about using the offensive set on the defensive EVs? Brilliant! After one Swords Dance, its reaches a decent 396 Attack. After another, it reaches a pretty good 594 Attack. After a third one, it skyrockets to 792! Dropping Confuse Ray, as I had Confuse Ray originally, is not much of a problem. Lum Berry is chosen over Leftovers because getting status is the bane of Cradily. The opponent goes: Harharhar! I will use Will-o-Wisp or Thunder Wave to render it useless! Harharhar! Oh no! It's got Lum Berry! Oh no! It KOed me with Rock Slide! Nooooooo! So you can see why I have this as it is.


Paleo means "prehistoric", which is what Cradily is.

Synergy:
Fighting goes to Gyarados, Starmie, and Rotom-c.
Ice goes to Starmie and Lucario.
Bug goes to Lucario, Rotom-c, and Gyarados.
Steel goes to Starmie, Lucario, and Gyarados.

The Really Fast Lawnmower
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Rotom-c(F)@Choice Scarf Vroom
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP, 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
Nature: Modest
-Trick
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Leaf Storm

Description:
Rotom-c provides much of the same synergy as Gardevoir did, so I'm replacing Gardevoir with this. It is a generic Choiced Rotom that outspeeds many non-Scarfed Pokemon and hits with its 3 pretty strong special moves. It also tricks things onto defensive Pokemon like Skarmory and Blissey, rendering them pretty much useless.

The 'c' in Rotom-c stands for either cut or car, I can't remember which. Anyway, it is a lawnmower that goes VROOM!


Synergy:
Dark goes to Lucario.
Ghost goes to Lucario.

Team Building Process[SIZE]
I knew that I wanted a sandstorm team. Tyranitar or Hippowdon? Hippowdon, as explained above.
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With a part of the defensive core, I put a member of the offensive core in.
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The defensive core only had the physical wall, so I put a special wall that could also dish out hits.
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These three I am not willing to change.
Hmm...I had a Fighting and Ice weakness. Gardevoir was put in for support, Fighting resist, and high Sp. Defense for Ice attacks.
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Now I needed a lead and some more resists, specifically, Fire, Water, and Ground.
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There you go.

Final Words:
So, there it is. The Sand Warriors. Keep in mind my two rules, and try to suggest more unconventional sets with new Pokemon. They make things more fun for everybody. I will stop blabbing in a bit to let you guys rate. Of my team, I have 4 OU, 3 of which are very common, and 2 NU, which is, in my opinion, a very healthy mix that is not too predictable but still effective. I only have 1 SR-weak Pokemon and 3 resists to SR. 1 is unaffected by Spikes and 3 are unaffected by Toxic Spikes. No type is unresisted and no type is effective on over 2 of my Pokemon. Try to keep that synergy. All right, I'll shut up now. Rate away, please!

Final Glance:
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Yes, all of these sprites were male sprites, even though not all of them are male. Does anybody care? I thought not. :)
 
Threat List: (problematic ones shown in bold.)

Azelf - since it isn't usually seen outside of lead, it is taken care of by Metagross, detailed above.
Breloom - I have to resort to letting it put one of my pokemon to sleep, then switching out to Lucario or Gyarados.
Celebi - I'm thinking the Steels can handle her, as well as Gardevoir with her high Sp. Defense. Maybe Gyarados with Avalanche.
Dugtrio - poses a threat, but not unstoppable, because it has nothing super-effective on Hippowdon, which can retaliate with earthquake.
Electivire - Hippowdon. Even though Electivire packs Ice Punch, it only does about 20%, in which I can Earthquake or Stone Edge if I predict a switch.
Empoleon - I have to stop this thing fast if I want to beat it. Only Lucario can even attempt to do this.
Flygon - If Lucario still has full health, it can Ice Punch away. If Gyarados is in, and I'm feeling confident, I can try Avalanche.
Gengar - If it's a lead, Metagross' Meteor Mash OHKOs it. If not, I have to get Lucario and Cradily to team up, even though Focus Blast OHKOs the first (ignoring Focus Sash) and does a number on Cradily, even in sandstorm.
Gliscor - Lucario's Ice Punch, if Focus Sash is still intact, or maybe even Gyarados' Avalanche.
Gyarados - if it has Taunt, I can't use Hippowdon's Roar. I have to rely on Lucario's Swords Dance + Extremespeed or Hippowdon's Stone Edge & high Defense.
Heatran - no problem, Lucario OHKOs w/ Close Combat, although if it has Choice Scarf, Lucario is screwed. If so, Hippowdon & Cradily can scare it away with Earthquake, and Gyarados with Waterfall.
Heracross - I haven't even seen one yet, so I can't say. I'm thinking Hippowdon can take care of it.
Infernape - With Metagross, it can stop the OHKO with the Occa Berry and Explode on it. With Lucario, I have to rely on Extremespeed because any Fire or Fighting attack will OHKO it. Hippowdon can do the trick, although Grass Knot poses a threat. Gyarados can also do so if it doesn't have Stone Edge.
Jirachi - I hate this thing. I have to rely on luck and use Hippowdon to Earthquake or Gyarados to Watefall.
Kingdra - not seen much off rain teams, but if it does show up, I can use Hippowdon to come in to interrupt rain (although I have to be very,very,careful.) and switch back out, probably Cradily.
Latias - gotta be careful and use Gyarados, Cradily, or Gardevoir.
Machamp - OHKOs both Lucario and Cradily w/ Dynamic Punch, and Lucario can't even guarantee an attack because of confusion. I have noticed Gyarados outspeeds Machamp and can attack relentlessly with Waterfall.
Magnezone - Only Hippowdon even dares to step within its view, and even then, Flash Cannon 2 or 3HKOs it.
Mamoswine - Metagross or Lucario
Ninjask - detailed above w/ Metagross
Porygon-Z - don't see this much, but Lucario could probably take care of it.
Rhyperior - very risky, but Lucario and Gyarados, maybe even Cradily
Roserade - detailed above
Rotom-A - poses a threat to everybody except Hippowdon and Cradily, and the Rock moves don't even do much.
Salamence - I can try Lucario's Ice Punch or Gyarados' Avalanche, even Hippowdon with Stone Edge or Cradily with Rock Slide.
Scizor - poses a threat to everything but Gyarados and Hippowdon. As said above, Hippowdon does well on it, and Gyarados resists its common moves (except Pursuit).
Snorlax - Lucario's Close Combat, or Gyarados relentlessly using Waterfall.
Starmie - since it's relatively frail, I can use Lucario or even Gardevoir because of its high Sp. Defense.
Suicune - Gardevoir w/ Thunderbolt, or even Cradily
Togekiss - gotta be careful with Serene Grace + Air Slash, but Cradily and Lucario can try to beat it.
Tyranitar - Lucario, but sacrifices its Focus Sash if it allows a hit. Hippowdon can also use Earthquake and Gyarados can use Waterfall, but needs to be wary of Stone Edge.
Weavile - in lead, described above. Outside of lead, Lucario (loses Focus Sash) and Gyarados.
Yanmega - haven't seen one yet, but maybe Lucario, Gyarados, and Cradily can try to beat it, although Cradily needs to watch out for Bug Buzz.
Zapdos - Hippowdon usually beats it w/ Stone Edge and a well-predicted Earthquake on a Roost.

Defensive:

Blissey - Lucario's Close Combat after Swords Dance.
Bronzong - Lucario as well, since Gyro Ball is resisted.
Celebi - I can try Lucario's Ice Punch or Gyarados's Avalanche
Cresselia - Taking this down is pretty hard. Only thing I can do is attack,attack,attack.
Crobat - Lucario's Extremespeed or Hippowdon's Stone Edge/Earthquake on Roost
Donphan - Lucario's Ice Punch or Gyarados's Avalanche
Drapion - I have not seen one yet, but I'm thinking Lucario, Hippowdon, and Cradily.
Dusknoir - This is pretty hard to take down. I just have to take the Will-o-Wisps since it almost never takes a OHKO.
Empoleon - described above
Forretress - Lucario, or even Gyarados, which resists all its STABs. Hippowdon does nicely as well.
Gliscor - Lucario's Ice Punch (very risky) or a bunch of SD'd attacks from Cradily or Gyarados
Hariyama - Not too common, but I can take care of it with Hippowdon & Gyarados
Heatran - detailed above
Hippowdon - Please. I have one. Lucario's SD'd Close Combat or Gyarados's Waterfall, provided it survives Stone Edge or Thunder Fang
Jirachi - detailed above
Latias - detailed above
Ludicolo - Lucario's Close Combat or Gardevoir (high Sp. Defense)
Machamp - detailed above
Magnezone - detailed above
Mesprit - haven't seen yet, but probably Gyarados or Gardevoir (gotta watch for U-Turn though)
Metagross - Lucario and Hippowdon
Milotic - also haven't seen yet, but probably Lucario.
Miltank - I'm probably the only one who has ever used this (look in my very first RMT), but Lucario
Porygon2 - same as Miltank
Regirock - Lucario, Hippowdon, Cradily, Gyarados (watching out for Stone Edge or something)
Registeel - Lucario, Hippowdon, Cradily
Rhyperior - detailed above
Rotom-A - detailed above
Salamence - detailed above
Scizor - detailed above
Shaymin - haven't seen one, but probably Lucario
Shuckle - Lucario, Hippowdon, Gyarados, Cradily
Skarmory - Rarely takes anything from my physical hits. Gardevoir, Cradily
Slaking - Lucario
Slowbro - Gardevoir hits back w/ Thunderbolt
Snorlax - Lucario, Hippowdon
Spiritomb - something, anything, I don't rely on anything to solve this.
Starmie - detailed above
Suicune - described above
Swampert - Gyarados and Cradily can attempt
Tentacruel - Lucario, Hippowdon, Cradily, Gardevoir
Togekiss - detailed above
Tyranitar - detailed above
Umbreon - Lucario, Cradily (Cradily needs to watch for Toxic)
Vaporeon - Cradily, Gardevoir
Walrein - Lucario, Gardevoir
Weezing - Every time I go in for a kill, it uses Pain Split. Meanwhile, it just keeps using Will-o-Wisp and others.
Zapdos - detailed above

None of these solutions are really counters but still solves the problem.
 
Overall, I have to say that this is a well thought and great team, very difficult to counter.
However- you need to watch out for Roton, which would give meatgross problems.
Skarmory will also give you alot of problems.
Tyranitar can help you, but it can also hurt you if it uses Dragon dance.

My bad- metagross
 
Your Gyarados is at risk from dying to sandstorm, so I suggest you change it to a more standard set, or at least use leftovers. Since it seems the reason you selected it was for its resitances, and with the buildup of sandstorm damage, I suggest RestTalk as the best set to use.
 
Your Gyarados is at risk from dying to sandstorm, so I suggest you change it to a more standard set, or at least use leftovers. Since it seems the reason you selected it was for its resitances, and with the buildup of sandstorm damage, I suggest RestTalk as the best set to use.

THANK YOU! This helps a bunch.

The threat list and Gyarados has been updated as well.
 
Alright focus sash is an awesome item, but you have absolutely no way of stopping the opponent from setting up entry hazards or removing them once theyre up. Since Stealth Rock is on like 90% of teams I don't see how Luke's focus sash could possibly stay intact in most games. Seriously, there's a reason people think late game focus sash users are noobs, get rid of that shit or at least get a rapid spinner. Also, the "no legendaries" rule is downright ridiculous. If a legendary is too cheap for ou, it's banned to ubers. Legendary status does not necessarily mean its a great pokemon. Refusing to use a pokemon just because you can only get one of them in game is closed-minded to the point of stupidity. (although I have to say I agree with you about Jirachi) Also, why play with item clause? Again, that's just arbitrary and stupid. Your Gyara really wants leftovers, and the particular set you're using really does not benefit from Wacan berry because it has no set-up move. Cradily also wants leftovers. Status moves are mostly on walls, so they'll status you, your lum berry will save you, and then they'll just status you again.
 
It seems that your team is very weak to stall, and because of this, I would at least test out a different form of Gyarados with taunt. You can use something like the bulkygyara set in the analysis.
Even if you choose not not change gyara's set, another pokemon with taunt really should be placed in there, as it will help alot against stall teams
 
Alright focus sash is an awesome item, but you have absolutely no way of stopping the opponent from setting up entry hazards or removing them once theyre up. Since Stealth Rock is on like 90% of teams I don't see how Luke's focus sash could possibly stay intact in most games. Seriously, there's a reason people think late game focus sash users are noobs, get rid of that shit or at least get a rapid spinner. Also, the "no legendaries" rule is downright ridiculous. If a legendary is too cheap for ou, it's banned to ubers. Legendary status does not necessarily mean its a great pokemon. Refusing to use a pokemon just because you can only get one of them in game is closed-minded to the point of stupidity. (although I have to say I agree with you about Jirachi) Also, why play with item clause? Again, that's just arbitrary and stupid. Your Gyara really wants leftovers, and the particular set you're using really does not benefit from Wacan berry because it has no set-up move. Cradily also wants leftovers. Status moves are mostly on walls, so they'll status you, your lum berry will save you, and then they'll just status you again.

All right, changing Metagross to Starmie for Rapid Spin, Gyarados to Leftovers (no one else plays Item Clause, why should I? :) ). I'm not changing Cradily to Leftovers, though.

It seems that your team is very weak to stall, and because of this, I would at least test out a different form of Gyarados with taunt. You can use something like the bulkygyara set in the analysis.
Even if you choose not not change gyara's set, another pokemon with taunt really should be placed in there, as it will help alot against stall teams

Gyarados has been changed to the Bulky set.

Anything else, anybody?
 
I suggest a rotom form over Gardevoir, most suggested one is rotom-c as you haven't really have anything to take on swampert.

Rotom-c @ choice scarf/ timid/ levitate
6 HP, 252 Spe, 252 SAtk

- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
- Shadow ball

--> this replaced gardevoir while still be able to take on Skarmory, Starmie and Gyarados. Trick your scarf on something like Blissey and you will be twice as happy ^^

Hope that helped
 
I suggest a rotom form over Gardevoir, most suggested one is rotom-c as you haven't really have anything to take on swampert.

Rotom-c @ choice scarf/ timid/ levitate
6 HP, 252 Spe, 252 SAtk

- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
- Shadow ball

--> this replaced gardevoir while still be able to take on Skarmory, Starmie and Gyarados. Trick your scarf on something like Blissey and you will be twice as happy ^^

Hope that helped

I'll definitely try this out, it looks good.

Just a note, Swampert can be taken care of by Gyarados, to a small extent. Oh well, this looks better.
 
In my opinion, this is probably the hardest team that I've ever rated due to the fact that you have two crazy rules of not using legendaries and not using Scizor. I spent about 10 minutes thinking of how I can help you fix up your team and I came up with a completely new team. I know that you wanted a SandStorm team and it's basically impossible to have a good SS team without using one of the following:
- Jirachi
- Heatran
- Scizor

So, here's the whole new team that I created. The thing you'll notice is that I kept Lucario and I changed Rotom-C to a Rotom-W. Other than that, this is a whole new team.

Starmie Replacement:

Swampert @ Leftovers
252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
Relaxed Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Protect/Surf/Roar


This Swampert set replaces your current RS LO Starmie set by providing a more defensive route to your team. Stealth Rock is necessary on all teams. It breaks Sashes and deals with Salamence and Gyarados if you needed it. Earthquake provides strong STAB that hurts Heatran, Metagross and Jirachi leads. Ice Beam allows you to deal with Salamence and has great coverage alongside Earthquake. The last moveslot is a basic toss up. Protect lets you scout for Choiced users, Explosions and Trick. While on the other hand, Roar helps you to scout your opponent's team and search for Pokemon who can be huge threats to your team. Surf gives you Dual STABs when combined with Earthquake and has excellent coverage alongside Ice Beam and Earthquake.

Lucario Replacement:

Lucario @ Life Orb
252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
Inner Focus
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- ExtremeSpeed
- Crunch


Basically the same Lucario set you have with minor changes. Life Orb over Focus Sash allows for a lot more damage. The last move is the major change. Crunch is overall better to use because you have Infernape using Hidden Power Ice. It also allows you to deal with Gengars, Dusknoirs, Rotom-As and other various Ghosts who like to switch in on Close Combat.

Rotom-C Replacement:

Rotom-W @ Leftovers
252 HP/136 Def/120 SpD
Calm Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Discharge
- Wil-O-Wisp


This is your pseudo Water Pokemon. All Rotom Appliances can run ResTalk set. But what makes Rotom-W different is the fact that he can use Hydro Pump. But, for this set, we're not going to use Hydro Pump. Rotom-W just scares the heck out of Heatran who could hurt this team very easily. ResTalk helps to take statuses and a way to heal off damage. Discharge provides STAB as well as dealing status. Wil-O-Wisp provides another way to status, but this one deals with Physical attackers such as Tyranitar, Salamence and Gyarados.

Gyarados Replacement:

Dragonite @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Adament Nature
224 HP/84 Atk/200 Spe
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Roost


This may look like an inferior Salamence set, but with close examination, you'll see that this has something that Salamence does not, bulkiness. Although Salamence can also run a bulky set, it does not have the base bulky stats to take some powerful hits. This Dragonite picks survivability over power to deal with your opponent's team. Dragon Dance allows you to raise your stats and when paired with Roost you'll see that you can easily get a couple of Dragon Dances in. Dragon Claw gives you a powerful STAB. Outrage was not listed here as this Dragonite picks survivability over power. Earthquake rounds off the set with great coverage alongside Dragon Claw hitting everything, barring Skarmory and Bronzong in OU, for Super Effective or more.

Hippowdon Replacement:

Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe
Naive Nature
Magnet Pull Ability
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Fire
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion


This Magnezone helps prevent Scizors from raping your team. Thunderbolt and Flash Cannon provide strong STABs against Skarmory, Gyarados and Tyranitar, Thunderbolt for the former two and Flash Cannon for the latter. Hidden Power Fire provides excellent coverage when paired Thunderbolt because you can hit Steels who wall your team, such as Metagross and Bronzong. Explosion rounds off the set by providing a way to deal with Salamence should you encounter troubles with it.

Cradily Replacement:

Infernape @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
64 Atk/252 SpA/192 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fire Blast
- Close Combat
- Grass Knot
- Hidden Power Fire


Standard MixApe. It's usage is very little now, so why not reintroduce it? With a way to deal with SkarmBliss as well as Salamence, who needs another Pokemon? The item is the toss up. Life Orb provides you a lot of damage to any Pokemon whereas Expert Belt gives you damage on Super Effective hits. Since Infernape's moves have great coverage, both items are viable. The power in this set can only be accessed if used properly in combination with Dragonite.

So, to conclude, here's what your team should be after this rate:
- Swampert
- Lucario
- Rotom-W
- Dragonite
- Magnezone
- Infernape


You had some big problems and I hope that this rate will help you fix them. Good Luck with your team!

- LB -
 
damn,you just made a whole new for the kid,i am sure RMT means rate my team,not make my team,dont you think you got a little....carried away?
 
His team was severely messed up. Sandstorm doesn't help his team. Cradily is basically dead weight on his team. Starmie is ok, but there are better leads. A different Rotom version was used. Gyarados was replaced by a bulky Nite and Magnezone and Infernape took over Hippowdon and Cradily's spots. But, he said he couldn't use Scizor and Legendaries, so I tried to fix up his team and it just wouldn't work without Scizor or Zapdos/Jirachi/Suicune, so here's a newish team.
 
i was just pointing out,never really wanted to say you where wrong,the team you did look solid to a extend,when he decide what to do with the changes,i will see if i can also help,depending on what he decide to do....
 
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